[analogsurviver]

I'd rather evaluate recordings YOU did for the sake of the argument.

I have recorded all of the VAL CDs so far...

 

[cel4145]

I have recorded all of the VAL CDs so far...

Cowboy tunes?

 

[StanD]

  I have recorded all of the VAL CDs so far...

 
Is the below link it? They call it a "Russian bootleg label" or is it something else? Doesn't seem to carry the type of content that you've been discussing
https://www.discogs.com/label/222999-Val-Records

 

[analogsurviver]

   
Is the below link it? They call it a "Russian bootleg label" or is it something else?
https://www.discogs.com/label/222999-Val-Records

DigitalPropellerHeads ( Trademark, Copyright, etc & so forth) bunch on this thread, obviously, can not  - or wish not - to read/follow the links posted. Despite being - digital ...

 

[james444]

Lol, he only just linked to the site like minutes ago and mentioned VAL three times or so.

 

 

[StanD]

  DigitalPropellerHeads ( Trademark, Copyright, etc & so forth) bunch on this thread, obviously, can not  - or wish not - to read/follow the links posted. Despite being - digital ...

Are you trying to label us with an insult? Sometimes one misses or forgets a link if it was in a post that was on a previous page relative to the last mention.

 

[Joe Bloggs]

http://valval.si/en/recordings/audio

 

[analogsurviver]

   
Well, what do I know, I'm just on the consumer side of things: a regular (though recently less so) concert goer, who happens to prefer this guy's binaural recordings over most other stuff when it comes to lifelike spatiality.
 
So would you please enlighten me, as to what significant and completely unacceptable faults my rare/strange breed is overlooking? And since we're in the objectivist's board room, would you kindly point out the objective criteria that make your "close to an ideal perception of a performance" more lifelike and spatially accurate than the "sound waves from the best seat in the house"?
 
Always willing to learn from a pro, and should this tasty pudding prove in fact unfit for consumption, then so be it. But so far your arguments have been quite vague and hardly convincing.

Just a correction - none of my recordings in your possession are binaural. They have been recorded with custom made DIY Jecklin Disk - as the commercially available version is appalling in its multifarious mistakes and simplifications for easier manufacture.
 
My latest binaural recordings reproduced over AKG K-1000 sound quite a bit more convincing than Jecklin Disk - but, as mentioned more than once, the market is still more speaker than headphone oriented - and I have to eat too. Jecklin Disk is still the second best option for listening on headphones - leaving most of the more conventional recordings in the dust.
 
As the time for the recording on location is ALWAYS limited, I usually have the time to adjust only one microphone - and in such cases, it is Jecklin Disk. IF and WHEN I can do both JD and binaural - both well - I will do it. Unfortunately, these opportunities are few and far in between.

 

[analogsurviver]

 
Are you trying to label us with an insult? Sometimes one misses or forgets a link if it was in a post that was on a previous page relative to the last mention.

The same question can be asked about "cowboy songs" ( BTW, there ARE good cowboy songs ... ) and "Russian bootleg label ".
 
Sometimes, it takes some of your own medicine to realize it was uncalled for and inappropriate in the first place - it is not particularly pleasant on the receiving end, isn*t it ?

 

[StanD]

  The same question can be asked about "cowboy songs" ( BTW, there ARE good cowboy songs ... ) and "Russian bootleg label ".
 
Sometimes, it takes some of your own medicine to realize it was uncalled for and inappropriate in the first place - it is not particularly pleasant on the receiving end, isn*t it ?

I didn't say anything about cowboy songs so don't hang that hat on me. I Googled up a link and what I found referred it as a "Russian Bootleg label." I asked about it because it didn't seem right and even stated, "Doesn't seem to carry the type of content that you've been discussing." You shouldn't read it as insulting as I didn't remember any previous link. All you had to do is post back the link, even if you had posted it a page or two back. Joe was kind enough to do just that.

 

[analogsurviver]

 
I didn't say anything about cowboy songs so don't hang that hat on me. I Googled up a link and what I found referred it as a "Russian Bootleg label." I asked about it because it didn't seem right and even stated, "Doesn't seem to carry the type of content that you've been discussing." You shouldn't read it as insulting as I didn't remember any previous link. All you had to do is post back the link, even if you had posted it a page or two back. Joe was kind enough to do just that.

Fair enough - "cowboy" was @cel4145. But the link was only a few posts back.
 
I did post the link(s) for some of my recordings on YT - not sooo long ago, less than a week - from which it is possible to decipher more about me than I ever remember revealed for any of the head-fi members still on this thread. 

 

[RRod]

Popularity is no guarantee of merit--never mind the fact that, if you were to argue your merit based on popularity, you should first be engineering for the most popular commercial classical recording label out there! For every big name you can name who has come your way, I'm sure others can name 10 bigger names who swear by, say, the chief sound engineer at, say, EMI Classics... or whatever mainstream label whose recordings you were dissing just now...

 
You would think from the arguing on here that the engineers at all these labels had NEVER heard a real symphony orchestra in their life, and of course neither have the composers / conductors / soloists who are there vetting the final product with them. Surely they have all been instructed by some higher authority to produce a "typical" recorded orchestral sound. Personally I feel the standards in classical are high enough that getting a truly BAD sounding recording is something you almost intentionally have to do these days.

 

[james444]

  Just a correction - none of my recordings in your possession are binaural. They have been recorded with custom made DIY Jecklin Disk - as the commercially available version is appalling in its multifarious mistakes and simplifications for easier manufacture.
 
My latest binaural recordings reproduced over AKG K-1000 sound quite a bit more convincing than Jecklin Disk - but, as mentioned more than once, the market is still more speaker than headphone oriented - and I have to eat too. Jecklin Disk is still the second best option for listening on headphones - leaving most of the more conventional recordings in the dust.
 
As the time for the recording on location is ALWAYS limited, I usually have the time to adjust only one microphone - and in such cases, it is Jecklin Disk. IF and WHEN I can do both JD and binaural - both well - I will do it. Unfortunately, these opportunities are few and far in between.

 
Thanks for your explanation, I stand corrected. They still sound amazingly lifelike and spatially convincing to me, and less clinical than e.g. the Chesky recordings I've heard (admittedly though, that's a bit of an apples-to-oranges comparison). The Mozart Requiem in particular is easily among my favorite recordings of this piece.

 

[cel4145]

DigitalPropellerHeads ( Trademark, Copyright, etc & so forth) bunch on this thread, obviously, can not  - or wish not - to read/follow the links posted. Despite being - digital ...

The same question can be asked about "cowboy songs" ( BTW, there ARE good cowboy songs ... ) and "Russian bootleg label ".

Fair enough - "cowboy" was @cel4145. But the link was only a few posts back.

That was obviously a joke, if you took a moment to recognize the big smiley face underneath the pitcure. It's what came up in when I selected the phrase "VAL CDs" in your post and let Chrome run a Google search.

But since you want to belabor this issue and defend being rude, I'll be blunt. This "DigitalPropellerHeads" tired a long time ago of your subjectivist diatribes. I often have better things to do with my time, and I am not going to go back and read through them to see if there is a link. I was just curious what recording work you did.

 

[spruce music]

  Just a correction - none of my recordings in your possession are binaural. They have been recorded with custom made DIY Jecklin Disk - as the commercially available version is appalling in its multifarious mistakes and simplifications for easier manufacture.
 
My latest binaural recordings reproduced over AKG K-1000 sound quite a bit more convincing than Jecklin Disk - but, as mentioned more than once, the market is still more speaker than headphone oriented - and I have to eat too. Jecklin Disk is still the second best option for listening on headphones - leaving most of the more conventional recordings in the dust.
 
As the time for the recording on location is ALWAYS limited, I usually have the time to adjust only one microphone - and in such cases, it is Jecklin Disk. IF and WHEN I can do both JD and binaural - both well - I will do it. Unfortunately, these opportunities are few and far in between.

I like omni mikes and the Jecklin disk.  I however hear almost a hole in the middle effect.  Not quite a hole, but almost.  I sometimes on recordings have converted the two channels to sum and difference signals like in MS recordings.  Then raise the sum signal by 3-4 db before going back to stereo.  This helps with the weak middle I perceive. Others don't complain of it so maybe it is just me.  Recordings I made always seem to have a weak middle and I hear it in those others have made.  Experimenting with thicker disks seems to be a step in the right direction though I haven't come up with a configuration that fixes the issue.