CHORD ELECTRONICS DAVE
Oct 2, 2015 at 4:26 AM Post #346 of 25,909
Thanks for your thoughts Rob, as always very insightful.
 
The noise floor and low bandwidth of Vinyl has been mostly ignored by exponents of the medium but Digital will win the day I am sure.
 
Oct 2, 2015 at 5:48 AM Post #347 of 25,909
  if the guitar played 300 feet away . can Dave play it 300 feet away ? even though many high end dac let you hear far it away ,but not the real way . the texture of the instruments fading  .
the depth is a tricky thing especially with speakers .

 
 
I suspect that minute timing and phase inconsistencies in a conventional (non-coaxial, etc.) loudspeaker may become exponentially problematic when attempting to recreate true depth perception at deeper and deeper depths/distances within the soundstage.
 
The other thing, of course, is that one is attempting not only to recreate the original depth cues of the recording venue, but to force such a recreation to convincingly be perceived by the human ear within a playback room which may be only a fraction of the size of the recording venue!
 
Oct 2, 2015 at 10:06 AM Post #349 of 25,909
Audiophile reviews tend to be painfully pretentious and overly-verbose at the best of times, but when translated from Japanese to English, via google, the resulting mangled verbosity is enough to make me want to commit harakiri! 
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Do we have any Japanese speakers in our midst, who could provide a more cogent English translation of the highlights of that review, please?
 
Thanks!
 
Oct 2, 2015 at 12:03 PM Post #350 of 25,909
On the 14th of October 2015, at 2pm GMT, Chord Electronics is introducing a revolutionary new product at The Shard, London, England.
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You’ve talked and we’ve listened.
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The game will change!
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Chord Electronics would also like to offer one very lucky Head-Fier the chance to attend the event! The winner will enjoy a champagne reception and a superb eight-course gourmet lunch with Chord presentation. The winner will be at the forefront for this exciting release. For your chance to win a place at this ground-breaking event, all you need to do is take a creative picture of you and your Chord product and we'll pick a single lucky winner from all of the entries.​
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This competition is for a single invitation only. Travel and accommodation is not included.​
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Oct 2, 2015 at 12:59 PM Post #351 of 25,909
Sounds intresting, if it not a reintroduction of the DAVE , then maybe its a new amp / monoblocks that can take care of the 768Mhz output sockets or a source streaming device.. :grin:
 
Oct 2, 2015 at 4:45 PM Post #353 of 25,909
Review Sound and Summary:
The standout seems to be they put it up against the DCS Vivaldi stack (among others) and concluded: "CHORD DAVE is the highest of the DAC world as far as I know."
 
The sound
This sound is off.
Are crazy expired.
Yet DAVE's calm.
The sound widely in the cool, deep, is vivid.
Of course, the work that marks the true value of this high-performance equipment,
And we have done in these short words,
I think the more's the only and without clam up way also of one of'll hear.
After all this, because equipment that provides hardly not reach the level of excitement in words.
To say, dialogue of this kind gives off when Bansaku-do came across in such equipment and
It also can be said that the only complaints-cliche.
Challenge to be itself, he is not hate.
Sound field of the breadth and depth to the first, Sumikiri is remarkable. DAVE is the moment you began, the audition room air is completely changed, to revealing a wide space filled with severely and clear atmosphere. Temperature feeling low, depth of the sound stage will be very deeply deployment. Here the way was clear, and went in the depth direction of the sound field of the intended CHORD unique, it is close to that of a decade ago of GOLDMUND, is a further Seizetsu, it can not be said to be a natural feeling. This is a space of which evoke great audio pleasures, including the nature, it can not be heard in the other. Impression of this space will be perfect for it in the stratosphere, which has been the image for some time. The Harewatari, listener in a vast air up, down, left and right blocking things nothing is thrown. there stratosphere as if Showa-born boy dreamed also seemed to here in reality.
Secondly, increased dynamism music is remarkable. Compared with Hugo TT sub model, you'll want muttered another this is that it is a different thing. This more emotional elements of the music is coming DAC rarely transmitted and relentlessly. It is a sound that would be forced to severely Koyo If you are listening. Performer of quiet dedication and absorption and sentimental growing, gloomy of music is represented by a stunning contrast. I have been recognized as the clear musical goodness of sharp also CHORD own. But such violent tone might easily have a rather monotonous impression. And a variety of music with the NAGRA HD DAC when attention is paid to that point, it's headphone out, but not amusing even if home is people that it is better that there is a serious and neutral tone that is heard in Re Leaf E1.

Improvement of the sound image of the resolution is indeed remarkable in the third. Appeared in front of all sound is stood up all at once, the more noisy in some cases, a variety of sound can be heard in three dimensions. Vivaldi and such as DSP-01, not to have the order should be in the detail is expressed naturally in the real unprocessed, all the details of the recorded sound is once appeared, such as attacking ear intensive It is a way to hear. Yet sound image is dark, presence of sound is also strong. This sounds heard in advanced headphone listening, is such that was directly unleashed in space.
In addition, it is also related to have is the speaker's ability to lead, localization of each section to be played in the booth of TIAS had can be expressed also the positional relationship between the vertical and high and low as well as left and right direction. Separation sense of each part is also excellent in the overlapping of the front and rear sound is heard brilliantly. However, the representation of harmony for separation is pretty good, not the blend together, it becomes a form that all comes flows while collateral.
In particular, part of this harmony is inferior to the sound output of the NAGRA HD DAC.
Assuming set aside such high-level requirements, such a two-dimensional rather than three-dimensional localization feeling, and sense of separation, realism close to the unprocessed, it what Vivaldi and, rammed a decent clock DSP- it is you did the world hear only 01. Not a Vivaldi as the erratic air feeling, it is not a fresh sense of realism about DSP-01, is a horrible guy and enter at this price in this area.

Fourth, the tone is a vivid as if shouting, you are alive. And I youthful also. This Wakayai's tone would also be one of the characters. Rokai a roundabout expression rather, DAVE prefer a direct protest against the decision in the extremely straight. Such and such a talkative outspoken way, while there is a sound feel the character, that there is no production feeling like interfere with the music appreciation willfully, it is it's a very strange impressed also allowed. After all, the atmosphere close to the raw sound is from being out without excess or deficiency. In addition, this much despite the edge sound in vivid, flow of sound is a very smooth, and I is not impressed with the contradiction. This clarity, in this direct sense, the flow of the smooth sound is something that does not taste quite the other DAC.
DAVE in the fifth truly sharpness of sound is good. Would not the first in many people go ears here in listen to one? It will most conspicuous place as a character of DAVE of sound. Especially when you focus the ear to high-frequency impulse, baked stick afterimage of sharp sound like cuts through the air to the eardrum to manipulate the sharp quick Japanese sword. The sense of speed, but goodness of the transient be heard consistently the entire band, and is most effectively exhibited in still high range.
In a digression but but Metal Gear Rising Ribenjensu, Raiden is brandishing a high-frequency uneven Somerset blade (not Muramasa), there is a scene to fight like a dancer. Turning speed of that blade, my feel, sense of speed of DAVE, it is the sharpness of the goodness of image. This I did not want to know only those who can see. Anyway, this DAVE unique sense of speed is like a weapon that fraught with metallic weight. This is without feeling DAVE is not a DAVE.
I while listening to the sound, said it also drew to mind the two aircraft fighters to compete in the stratosphere. That is the sound of DAVE my interpretation death, so that the atmosphere is reminiscent of modern weapons is always haunting. Shatter the other DAC us a powerful technology, afterimage of Yayamosureba violent force and speed, came out full of riding the flow of smooth melody, it does not stop.

Finally, Mai made I must also not mention obvious extension of the dynamic range. This is he was the one that can be fully satisfied even Hugo TT, has become well further representation of large and small, the intensity of sound in DAVE. Again, the sound is large, or is attached clearly a sharp contrast for the fact that small. Generally easy to understand the goodness of who heard even sound, is a so-called sound high over-the-counter appeal.
However, this sound is not something to enjoy without genre restrictions in any music. Something classic old narrow range recordings will not sound it ish. Contemporary music source of suits. Also it had better cease to combine a narrow range of old-fashioned speakers. Modern speakers advocating the power amplifier and a wide range with a strong drive power and speed suits.
But forgot to say, this audition is connected to DAVE in USB from Dela N1Z to direct, it is further balance in directly from DAVE a sound that connected to the company made power amplifier as standard. Speaker is a TAD CE-1. This would be one of the system configurations and most DAVE the characteristic is exhibited. However, even through was separately prepared preamplifier, I think it is not the impression of the sound of DAVE is Soga large. Rather, only slightly direction is changed, only the character of the preamplifier is applied, it will hear a rather interesting sound. Personally, I was listening to think or not to spread the width of the representation subjected to any static settled on sound output when combined and Chorus of Jeff Rowland equipped with a new type of power supply.
Want to thought also asked in addition of All-Union Jack system. That is, electronics CHORD, including DAVE, align the B & W 800D3 series has evolved as expected. By connecting them with the same name of the cable manufacturer CHORD senior cable, it is you want to hear carefully. deepened clearness that these equipment have in common is far, and whether the increase, is there to hear office.
In what is the sound of the headphones out?
In that place, I do not want to think that the find something. In aware of it, if you dare to comment, the sound was heard from the HD650 Dmaa that was re-cable in Oktavia, but that was almost the exact shape similar to the sound that rang to direct connection to TAD CE1 the power amplifier to DAVE.
By comparison, Re Leaf E1 is excel in the localization of the separation feeling and sound image of the sound, will prevail and spread if TELOS Headphone Amplifier of the sound field. If combined with the appropriate DAC, to will still OJI of the amplifier are on top in the total sense of stability, not properly balanced amplifier of mass workshop if you want a flat sound. It is no match enemy to gloss and distinctive Sonority of sound with the HP-V8 If you say in listening taste. headphone out of the music if Nagra HD DAC is on a single. Again only and high-end headphone amplifier that has to target the headphones, the more expensive DAC of force to be reckoned with. But, the headphones out of DAVE If freshness and sharpness of the goodness of sound will over almost all. To proceed with the goodness of the cutting to be barely comparable to this, should I not come hear only from the USB DAC of Qualia. Prior to that, it MiTamae was first compared in price. When you think in total it teamed up with the corresponding DAC, there are hardly what comes out enough sound at 1.5 million in equipment was raised to comparison here.
In any case, but also feel a little wasteful to buy only to listen to the future, headphones also DAVE, that sound reminiscent that it is not a wonder can have such veteran was heard Let me mention.
To sit in various seats, while you are listening to DAVE, unexpectedly but got drowsy and tired, such as implanted abandon war hammer the (Warhammer), striking sound of sharp bass drum is Issen, it was jumped . At that moment, Hugo also QBD76 also I felt vividly that it was to go put quite behind. It is not visible figure even back another Hugo TT something is. Are-ra seems was a mere outpost. After all, According to John Franks DAVE is thing with is positioned masterpiece in the whole product CHORD made.
Certainly DAVE pricing and design, considering it also fit the size, it is a sound worthy of rave reviews. If you were to this sound comes out from the DAC of 3 million yen over, I would have raised the referee's fan to HD DAC + MPS of NAGRA. However, the price in Japan of this DAC is only 1.5 million yen following the half. And is the preamplifier do not need. Preamplifier function of HD DAC's a bonus, but it is hard to say that a bonus of DAVE. It's actively use want to become functional rather. Victory or defeat would with there. The DAC is too cheap even if considered. Versus price satisfaction is too high. Also I thought so when I heard the HUGO, seems still CHORD to specialize in price destruction at a high level. And this is what is also that I ask to technology in general. Yet high-quality, inexpensive compared to the equipment produce sound of the same class, compact. This perfectly in a difficult request because the only DAC to some that meet.
If, and full system of Vivaldi, DSP-01, which put the appropriate clock will release the musical tone from the Earth's gravity, suppose the things that he plays the sound of a different dimension. They are giving almost the space of, such as the world-the universe of weightlessness on the audio.
When Meguraseru ideas along such contexts DAVE the atmosphere was clearing are met but mono play sounds in the spread of enormous space, the sound is still located within the atmosphere of the earth, and is released from the gravity Te not be. In that sense it would still than sound in the stratosphere. Abstract gravity acts that music to sound output, and he sounds like has given certain constraints on the attitude of the musical tone.
Those sounds that rely on the clock of ability innocent in selfless, something no-frills realistic only talent speaking bad, but the sound of DAVE, which does not rely on clock maker of personality and ego is left in fully, it is of its own as music, always haunts sound output. And hear from DAVE is the sound of the defunct CHORD be Magau. Objection will be going, but such sonic signature is not sound boring for me. DAVE is technically is interesting to feel like have ended up in nature and this unique sound music in the process of boiling down the sound.

Summary
Coming up here, I dare say will the irreverent opinion.
The advent of DAVE's a chance to drive a wedge in situations where high-end audio is almost occupied by the old people of the rich. This incident is not limited to the conventional CHORD user, still young and should to be a great gospel for the limited audio file our financial strength.
It 1.5 million is still high?
In the Son and the audio, if you do not stretch, the back is not extended. Now, we should extend the hand Good luck.
For the moment the pre also not even need a headphone amplifier. External clock is also an external power supply is also not necessary to worry about.
DAVE single and minimum PC, if they have headphones, this tremendous cost performance I want you to think well that enter in your hand.
Although somewhat it is enigmatic paradox, and unless, there is no future in the world of high-end audio and lovable Kuzuse the monopoly of high-end audio by almost Seele like a old men.
This is now, it would not be a mistake because I say that Yuku old exactly.
However, most of the industrialized world manufacturers, including Japan,
... I do not think hardly to and understand this point.
Nde another to hereabouts is the spit poison Let me stop.
By the way, the audio There are two aspects of "excitement" and "healing".
Excitement is something exciting. It is like a wave of acute emotional, but give a strong impression as of the moment of love at first sight to the listener, it is it is repeated and fatigue.
On the other hand, healing is intended, but a chronic to reduce that kind of fatigue, is a habit of lazy followed by sound, is a tepid sense. This leads to mannerism.
It is desirable that these two are balanced mix, it is common sense in the audio is that,
DAVE is beyond that kind of common sense. That "impression" is the part occupied by the I think as "healing" much more than. Those who prefer the sound of DAVE Possibly, the "excitement" to "healing" might have a circuit of mood to be converted to. But, should people'm seeking DAVE provisionally without having such things in the mind. This sound is even psychology of listeners ask a lot of healing, there is a force to be "trained" in a short time. In fact I was so. This is a capability that is rarely seen in the excellent audio machine, but there is a feeling that I met such equipment for the first time in a long time. Opponents (anti) also admit the essence of the power of the sound, and there I have stepped on.
It is not never want to exaggeration.
But, no choice but to I confide this way become now.
CHORD DAVE is the highest of the DAC world as far as I know.
 
Oct 2, 2015 at 4:49 PM Post #354 of 25,909
Just got a quote from my local U.S. Chord dealer for the DAVE dac $16,300. I thought it was going to be less, but I guess not. Now I  know why they didn't want that info coming out.
 
Oct 2, 2015 at 5:02 PM Post #355 of 25,909
I don't have a local Chord dealer, but called one in the US and was told he believed the list price to be $13,000 but that he would have to verify it. Someone has to be able to confirm the US list price, please! TIA
 
Oct 2, 2015 at 5:09 PM Post #357 of 25,909
@ Dave:     yes, that's just a gobbledigook google-esque translation - I meant a proper real-life Japanese-speaking head-fier to offer an intelligible translation!  
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Oct 2, 2015 at 5:21 PM Post #360 of 25,909
 
Why no one wants to say is very puzzling.
 

 
 
Perhaps it's because USA dealers may not yet have concrete pricing on the DAC?
 
 
 
I'd relax about USA pricing, for a few weeks. All will be known quite soon, I'm sure. No point in getting wound-up, at this premature stage, until there is confirmation of pricing, either way. 
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