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Have you got your Dave yet?
I suppose people are too busy enjoying their Dave,plus its not cheap.
CHORD ELECTRONICS DAVE
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I suppose people are too busy enjoying their Dave,plus its not cheap.
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Hi
Not yet sadly, 1,5 weeks left untill the second batch are ready for shipping according to Chord.
So just a little more waiting, then a 200 hour burn in until a serious listening session can take place
Not yet sadly, 1,5 weeks left untill the second batch are ready for shipping according to Chord.
So just a little more waiting, then a 200 hour burn in until a serious listening session can take place
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I was thinking the same thing...
I only put my order in last week so I guess I'll be in that same batch?
I kinda need a little DAVE praise and feedback as I'm really enjoying my Rega Isis and almost don't want something that complicates my listening unnecessarily.... First world problems....
I only put my order in last week so I guess I'll be in that same batch?
I kinda need a little DAVE praise and feedback as I'm really enjoying my Rega Isis and almost don't want something that complicates my listening unnecessarily.... First world problems....
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Okey, then your probably up for the third batch depending on how many they produce in the second batch.
I ordered mine for more than 4,5 month ago, but the "big selling" countries like UK / AUS / Asia / US got the the highest priorety, then the rest will receives their units.
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I haven't read the review.
But yesterday I had my first three hours with the demo DAVE at AV ONE in Singapore via headphones direct,either my HD800 or HE1000.
For about an hour before connecting DAVE I was listening to HE1000 via either my own Hugo or Mojo and found both very good indeed regarding size and cost . But after a couple of hours of listening to my hi res masterfiles ranging from 24/48 to DXD pcm and both DSD 64 and DSD 128, via DAVE it was really disappointing to go back to either of the two.
Yes I said I was baffled at how good little Mojo sounded on the Mojo thread.
But now I have to admit I was simply unprepared for the veritable MAGNITUDE of improvement via DAVE on material I both know very well live from recording sessions plus various other classical music albums like the two most recent ones from BSO LIVE,where I have never even been to Symphony Hall in Boston .But I do know very well how and orchestra sounds in a good hall.And this happens to be one of the world's best orchestras superbly recorded in one of the world's best halls.
I already considered both the Wagner/Sibelius 24/96 release and the most recent Schostakowich's 10th Symphony exceptionally well made recordings via my Hugo. But via DAVE I have to say that I felt almost transported/teleported to the venue. It was almost uncanny. The realism and lifelike timbre and tonality and smoothness and spatial depth was spine-tingling to say the least.
To mention only two of many superb recordings I got eargasmic spine-tingling sensations from via DAVE.
Without getting too longwinded ,I can safely state after only a few hours on a demo unit, that I have NEVER BEFORE heard such realistic orchestral sound from ANY other consumer DAC.And yes it is galvanically isolated and I used USB 2 on my MBP without any issues whatsoever. Pure bliss on well made recordings and bluntly revealing the shortcomings of bad ones like SONY's recent 24/192 The Marriage of Figaro which is so terribly close /spotmic'd and multimic'd that it sounds pretty horrible via DAVE and headphones.
With well recorded albums Mic-feed at sessions is the most relevant comparison imo.
My only reservation about DAVE would be:
OMG ,why does it have to be so b..... expensive?
I don't know how I will be able to buy both DAVE and the house I also need to buy this year, without absolutely ruining myself?
very encouraging.
Did you listened to DAVE with the HE1000 direct from DAVE's headphone-out ? Was DAVE really powerful enough to drive the HE1000 with authority ?
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JaZZ
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To my ears it leaves no wishes.
This is truly a great DAC
Yes, it is – in every sense. Resolution (!), threedimensionality, dynamics, sonic colors, realism...
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I don't recall seeing this review by Dirk Sommer in HiFiStatement posted, you can use Google for a rough translation. Apologies in advance if I missed a previous post of it.
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On price with Dave it was fairly simple. I designed Dave to suit a sound quality and a performance goal - my own targets, not something Chord was setting. There was no price point set or determined - everything was engineering driven. Once the design was finished, Chord added up the BOM, used their usual multipliers, and that was the price.
But I have just gotten back on a small press and dealers trip, and that was interesting. We popped into a dealer who had sold a few Mojo's, and we had a few hours spare. He was a tube/vinyl very high end dealer and I happened to have a Dave in my bag (I hand carry Dave with me on my travels for music in the hotel). So we listened to it, and we got the same reaction you had - every piece of music was spine tingling good - even 1960's Rolling Stones. The dealer said he had never heard digital ever sound like that - indeed, he said it was actually better than his beloved vinyl!
So pretty chuffed by that, we went onto the next meeting with a dealer that stocks Dave, whereupon we were told in no uncertain terms that Dave was just way too cheap. He claimed that nobody will compare a Dave at $13k against a $50k DAC, that to say Dave was better was ridiculous as the price was wrong. It can sound better, measure better, that just didn't matter as the price was wrong, and everybody measures by price. Telling this to an engineering driven company (John was with me) was, shall we say - somewhat disheartening. Ho hum.
On another issue - you mention some high res recordings - now my experience of hi res is mixed. Sometimes it can sound much worse, usually a bit better than redbook, sometimes it can sound extraordinary. What are your best recordings that work sonically and musically?
Thanks Rob
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That's a nice story Rob about them 2 dealers,i think you've said before on here that some audiophiles think with there wallets and not there ears.I don't think you should feel disheartened because alot more people will buy Dave,which also means alot more people are going to hear the fruits of your lifes work,which must be very satisfying for you Rob . I'm very sure when all the great reviews of Dave come out,it might change the market for high end dacs.
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That's the issue about 50 K USD dacs and greedy dealers
I have no desire to listen to them as I don't understand the high price but not so great performance. 50K USD will buy a very nice turntable and more importantly lots and lots of records.
So the DAVE at 8K GBP is still aspirational (maybe for others- it is still too high for my wallet), but 50K USD is nonsense to me
And Rob said it himself, even the Mojo can be compared to that 50 K USD DAC and will beat it.
People who measure an audio component by price alone, are either tone deaf, don't understand the technology and most of all don't understand music, and as the old saying goes "a fool and his money are soon parted" - definitely the audiofool and his cash are parted quickly.
I have no desire to listen to them as I don't understand the high price but not so great performance. 50K USD will buy a very nice turntable and more importantly lots and lots of records.
So the DAVE at 8K GBP is still aspirational (maybe for others- it is still too high for my wallet), but 50K USD is nonsense to me
And Rob said it himself, even the Mojo can be compared to that 50 K USD DAC and will beat it.
People who measure an audio component by price alone, are either tone deaf, don't understand the technology and most of all don't understand music, and as the old saying goes "a fool and his money are soon parted" - definitely the audiofool and his cash are parted quickly.
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I'm really looking forward to my DAVE, I needed a good story, thanks, Rob.
My £2K bryston bcd1 killed my £6K Mcintosh, and my £6K Rega Isis similarly beats £15K+ players from esoteric, dcs etc in my view. Money is one of those subjective variables which influence our perception of the world. Research suggests that the more you pay, the more you value and the better the experience of it-but only up to a point. The rationalisation works harder when you buy something that cost a lot to you but doesn't really deliver-that's when people search out reviews etc, AFTER their purchase to reassure themselves. You get a lot less justification behaviours post sale when the product is "believed" in. But yes, money does influence perception in all sorts of ways...
My £2K bryston bcd1 killed my £6K Mcintosh, and my £6K Rega Isis similarly beats £15K+ players from esoteric, dcs etc in my view. Money is one of those subjective variables which influence our perception of the world. Research suggests that the more you pay, the more you value and the better the experience of it-but only up to a point. The rationalisation works harder when you buy something that cost a lot to you but doesn't really deliver-that's when people search out reviews etc, AFTER their purchase to reassure themselves. You get a lot less justification behaviours post sale when the product is "believed" in. But yes, money does influence perception in all sorts of ways...
Any comments on DAVE with the HE-X direct on DAVE's Headphone-out ? right now I use HE-X with HUGO or EC445...
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Would somebody kindly explain how we should read following specification of Dave and would kindly explain how good it is?
Dynamic range at -60 dBFS 1kHz -127 dBA A wt
I was told from one of our hifi forum member that this specification is not so good when compared with other DACs and was wondering if that was true.
But am not so technically strong and would appreciate if someone would provide easy-to-understand explanation about it. Thanks.
Dynamic range at -60 dBFS 1kHz -127 dBA A wt
I was told from one of our hifi forum member that this specification is not so good when compared with other DACs and was wondering if that was true.
But am not so technically strong and would appreciate if someone would provide easy-to-understand explanation about it. Thanks.
