jelt2359 said:

Another point for the K3003/846: longevity. AKG and SHURE have really long product cycles, so upgraditis is not built into the system.

On the other hand there are four more sirens to be released, probably in the next year or so. I'm gonna wait and compare all seven before making any purchasing decisions with JHA.

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My main gripe with the JH siren designs is size. Custom or universal, they are huge, which makes them a bit unwieldy IMOO, if you compare to TOTL iems like K10 or Mentor, even Ref1 is smaller.

That too. Someone mentioned they're like ping pong balls taped to one's ear; a vivid description that I can't seem to forget

I still think they should mount winglets on them - for a smaller vortex and less drag.
 

ivabign said:

I still think they should mount winglets on them - for a smaller vortex and less drag.

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Yup. It'll greatly improve aerodynamics. Think about it - you get great sound, and you'll get to your location faster! Win!

I don't know what JH Audio did to the Angie (and I imagine Layla) over it's other products, but whatever it was they got it right!! This is the best universal IEM I've ever heard. To be honest, I think it may be better than my V6 custom and ASG-2, but I need to compare them soon. There's just something about the fullness, timbre, layering and placement of instruments in the sound that's just right and natural to my ears. And I actually keep forgetting that I'm listening to multiple-balanced armatures. Well done JH Audio!!! The level of clarity and crispness is just blowing me away.

ericp10 said:

  I don't know what JH Audio did to the Angie (and I imagine Layla) over it's other products, but whatever it was they got it right!! This is the best universal IEM I've ever heard. To be honest, I think it may be better than my V6 custom and ASG-2, but I need to compare them soon. There's just something about the fullness, timbre, layering and placement of instruments in the sound that's just right and natural to my ears. And I actually keep forgetting that I'm listening to multiple-balanced armatures. Well done JH Audio!!! The level of clarity and crispness is just blowing me away.

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yeah, from the impressions people are giving, it really seems like they did something next generation with these.  i can't wait to see what people think once the customs start coming out.  you know, several months down the road.. haha.

joncirca57 said:

 
Wow, that's great!  What store stocks something as exotic as this??
 

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Local Vancouver store, they have the only showroom in my area that I can find and like you said they manage to stock some pretty exotic items .

ericp10 said:

I don't know what JH Audio did to the Angie (and I imagine Layla) over it's other products, but whatever it was they got it right!! This is the best universal IEM I've ever heard. To be honest, I think it may be better than my V6 custom and ASG-2, but I need to compare them soon. There's just something about the fullness, timbre, layering and placement of instruments in the sound that's just right and natural to my ears. And I actually keep forgetting that I'm listening to multiple-balanced armatures. Well done JH Audio!!! The level of clarity and crispness is just blowing me away.

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IMO even their current JH13 is better than the V6 and ASG-2.

levanter said:

IMO even their current JH13 is better than the V6 and ASG-2

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When I heard the K10 and Roxanne, I had my 13s with fav cheap cable with me ($50) . I thought more different than better. The Roxanne had the sort of focus and boogie I like and currently have but I preferred my 13s balance. I got that the Roxanne was better in some ways. The K10 had a great balance, a little warm, very enjoyable but a bit flatter in perspective and didn't get as black or locked in. Still great and I understand any of these would be preferred over the other. I like both Rox + K10 products quite a bit but for different reasons though neither had me want to change from what I have since, for me, neither clearly bested mine overall. These new Sirens have have me thinking that way, even though I'm already happy. Maybe less happy now, LOL. Damn you Jerry! I'd need to do more compares at some point but these just work exactly as supplied and without sonic nits to pick. Listen to both, pick a price point or amount of weight you like in your sound and call it a day.
 
Would be nice if JH offered a 4 split to 2x2 conductor version of the siren series cable as stock or $50 upcharge for their other models.

This is embarrassing, especially after my argument with Bearbnf here on the fit of the layla's. Just tried them out today, got to say, they fit well.

Mainly cause the bores are longer, allowing it to settle deeper within my ears.

On the sound, not good. Insanely overweight bass, not too big of a difference compared to the roxxanes. If you like a concert type presentation, where they have gigantic horrible sounding speakers powered by class D amps. Go for these.

Do note, i have a general dislike for the jh sound. They do sound good compared to most earphones, but they dont sound like those in their price range.

Did you adjust the bass dial? Sounds like you listened with the +15 db bass boost option.

goodvibes said:

When I heard the K10 and Roxanne, I had my 13s with fav cheap cable with me ($50):wink_face: . I thought more different than better. The Roxanne had the sort of focus and boogie I like and currently have but I preferred my 13s balance. I got that the Roxanne was better in some ways. The K10 had a great balance, a little warm, very enjoyable but a bit flatter in perspective and didn't get as black or locked in. Still great and I understand any of these would be preferred over the other. I like both Rox + K10 products quite a bit but for different reasons though neither had me want to change from what I have since, for me, neither clearly bested mine overall. These new Sirens have have me thinking that way, even though I'm already happy. Maybe less happy now, LOL.  Damn you Jerry! I'd need to do more compares at some point but these just work exactly as supplied and without sonic nits to pick. Listen to both, pick a price point or amount of weight you like in your sound and call it a day.

Would be nice if JH offered a 4 split to 2x2 conductor version of the siren series cable as stock or $50 upcharge for their other models.

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From what I've tried so far, once you pass the $1000 mark any increase in SQ is very minimal and the main difference is just the sound signature preference.
Like you I preferred the 13 over the Roxanne and K10. The Roxanne was too dark and bassy for my liking and the K10 had a weird sound signature. Might need a longer period with them the next time I have the chance.
I take all exaggerated reviews with a huge grain of salt, so I'd need to test the Layla and Angie myself to determine how true the claims are. Especially statements on "Layla having a bigger than many full sized headphones"
Will definitely be interested to compare the soundstage of the A12 vs Layla though.

Its the same way with daps i used the Fiio X1 and just bought a AK100II the AK sounds great and more detailed but its not $800 sound differance.

I had the same issue auditioning the Layla. Turns out the bass output attenuator was maxed out. It was fine after it was adjusted all the way down. Might've been the issue?
 
Before I get to my impressions, I'm more of a music lover than I am an audiophile. I currently have a pair of JH16s NFP. I'm doing my last audition with the Layla and Angies today (I've had ~4-5 hours with each the past few days). I've done testing with flacs, Tidal, and Spotify Premium. I'm using a Meridian Explorer2 DAC. Brought a crew of music lovers to test them out as well. 
 
We also had Roxanne, 13s, and 16s with freqphase on deck for A/B comparisons. So far, we agree unanimously that these flagships are significantly more enjoyable to listen to and are placed in a completely different tier from the others, including Roxy. These are the notes I wrote down during the auditions:
 
Both:
- The soundstage is enormous. It's apparent for all types of music but using the Chesky - Right/Let Channel ID Test made it really obvious (and freaky). Incredible.
- Coherence
- I think the best blanket term for both of these is "organic." There's a naturalness and detail that's plain addictive.
- Well-extended and could handle anything you throw at them.
- As far as universals go, I thought both of them were comfortable but frickin' huge.
 
Layla:
- Accurate to a fault. Astounding amount of detail and balance. Definitely a reference level monitor. 
- There's more detail and sense of clarity (more airy in the mids)
- Bass reproduction was a bit more detailed
- Imaging was a tad better than Angies. 
- Mids were clean, textured, and has a clear presence. Some instruments were not as apparent on the Angies.
- Some recordings were lifeless...but accurate.
 
Angie:
- The vocals unequivocally have a larger presence...which isn't necessary a bad thing, at least to my ears.
- I felt the Angies were more textured on the high-end. It was apparent in some songs like Damien Rice - 9 Crimes at the 2:40 mark. The low female vocal was amazingly perceptible on the Angies but a bit stressed/harsh on the Laylas. 
- The thing I found as a bit of an issue with the 13s/16s/Roxys was the sibilance. Quite honestly, it's the recording most of the time and these monitors are just recreating the sound accurately. That said, the Angies had less sibilance and made it more enjoying to listen to for most of my playlist. 
- The low end might be a bit lacking for some palates.
 
Conclusion:
 
The Laylas were more technical, analytic, and extremely revealing. They are what they were meant to be...reference monitors. 
 
The Angies have a more fun and energetic touch to them and is probably more of my preference as far as sound signatures go.
 
In other words, Layla is the girl you marry: you might find things you like or hate about her as you go but she's solid. Angie is more of a one-night stand. You could have a deep conversation with her if you want but she'll be fun most of the time.
 
Artists: Charice, Avril, Babyface, Beck, Buckthead, Damien Rice, Diana Krall, Dr. Dre, Echosmith, Ed Sheeran, Jason Mraz, Kina Grannis, Lindsey Stirling, Madonna, Mariah, Metallica, Michale Jackson, miles Davis, Nirvana (MTV NYC), Norah J, Paramore, The Ataris, The XX, Tristan Prettyman, Sara Bareilles, and the Chesky demos.

shotgunshane said:

Did you adjust the bass dial? Sounds like you listened with the +15 db bass boost option.

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Yeap, made sure to turn it all the way down, and compared the side to side with the roxx. Seems similar to me.

Make no mistake, they are good. A guy at the shop said they were unbelievably revealing and clear. The again, his previous favorite headphones was the Sony MDR-1 with an samsung source, so he's kind of new to amazing audio.

But for semi old horses like me, (i have not heard most totl like K10, earwerks,lear, uerm etc). They seem normal/mediocre compared to the likes of custom art( a decent budget ciem maker), and fitears.

My point, these sound like 1.1k earphones, better than the shure se846 and similar to the roxx. Not anywhere even near the TG334, MH334 and MH335, which are very good, not perfect, but they fit the price.

I thought that i may be deaf or something, but the guys at the shop agreed. So guess im not alone.

Bacon333,
Playing chesky records, dynamic drivers in beer bottles will have the soundstage of a stadium hall. Those recordings are binaural, the soundstage should be huge. Even my earpods sound huge with that recording. On your other points, i feel like it is gross exaggeration.