Philips Fidelio X2?!
Jul 26, 2014 at 8:49 AM Post #122 of 15,268
http://www.ep-schroeder-werdohl.de/philips-x2-00-fidelio?utm_campaign=website&utm_source=sendgrid.com&utm_medium=email This is the German website which already has pre orders, probably gonna be first released in EU anyways, as Netherlands are basically right next to Germany and all that, hope its coming soon :)
 
Jul 26, 2014 at 9:38 AM Post #123 of 15,268
Hey folks, just wanted to mention here in Germany they are listed as 299 e just as the x1, so no worries :D Hope its just the tad technicality that the X1 needed to be perfect :wink:


My wish list from the X2;

Tighter bass, less muddy
A better midrange presentation and also more natural. Not too "behind the music"
Not too dark
Better resolution, dynamic and maybe instrumental separation.

Not too much to ask for right? :p
 
Jul 26, 2014 at 10:45 AM Post #125 of 15,268
Hehe well i personally find the earpads to be the best ive ever had, except for the daily cleaning xD But soundwise yes, mids a tad more forward, little less dark and bass a bit tighter, i mean to me with a differen cable (Lower Impedance) the bass is really tight, only with some music you feel the muddyness, but its defnitely there, but not as much as with HD650 for example :wink: Denon D600 compared have a much muddier and loose bass ^^
 
Jul 26, 2014 at 2:31 PM Post #127 of 15,268
What do you mean?^^ It really did get tighter with mine, i have 3 different cables in use, Deleycon, Cordial and Original, both the Deleycon and Cordial sound fine, the Original 1. Has poor shielding and gets hissing when next to a Dac or something with digital traffic and it also has the bass a little looser and less defined. What does OT mean, im from Germany, dont get some of the deeper stuff ?^^
 
Jul 26, 2014 at 3:21 PM Post #128 of 15,268
The philips x1 is easily the most comfortable and attractive open back I have had so I am sooo subbed! If it sounds good it will be worth the premium to me. Other headphone companies need to take notes on its comfort and build. 
 
 
It needs to keep its balance and improve upon the technicalities. If it has to sacrifice a small, and I mean small amount of bass for better technicalities then so be it. They need not go any lighter than the l2, infact they need just a tad more. I'm sorry but I was not impressed with the tuning of the l2... they pretty much screwed up a great headphone by asking everyone what they wanted in surveys. Every body loves upper mids and most like treble detail but everybody is most sensitive to upper mids as well. The x1 is balanced spot on IMO if not a tad too warm for reference, but heck if its not musical.
 
I would ask for:
 
- Like Billson said ... tighter bass
- wider soundstage with reference imaging and depth. 
- ultimate transparency, so like way more transparent than the x1 and the l2 is already a class ahead.
- NOT tuned like the L2 which is all upper mids and treble, though it has good extension down low and up top it is nasally IMO yet an extremely capable and clear headphone with a hifi sound.  
- more sturdy and metal connector, dual entry for balanced capabilities and better cables
- more scalable 
- some accessories like a case or something
 
I think it would be safe to say that if a philips tightens the bass, keeps its current balance and focuses on imaging/instrument separation, and transparency then they will most definitely have an exceptional product worthy of 600 smacks.
 
As far as the looks etc. maybe just fancy up the leather around the headband a little bit so it looks more sophisticated but other than that IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT!!!
 
Jul 26, 2014 at 5:52 PM Post #129 of 15,268
Hm pretty much agree with you, i mean just from comparison with other headphones in the price range they already have no competetition besided K702 and HD600, DT880, but if they were to improve on this hall of famish formula of warm,natural and tigh sound with soundstage and musicality by adding the last bit of technicality id say Philips could be the first brand since Sennheiser HD600 to make a truly superior headphone, as for now they are all on level in my opinion, only different signature, but all enjoyable on their own :)
 
Jul 28, 2014 at 8:09 AM Post #132 of 15,268
The Philips L2 as well. Rather difficult to find :/

They're easily available over here that's one of the reasons I'm surprised that the X2's are nowhere to be found.
 
Jul 28, 2014 at 8:56 AM Post #133 of 15,268
They haven't been officially announced yet, so it's not that strange. The surprising thing is that anyone has managed to buy one.
 
My theory on the L2 is that it was probably made for european tastes hence not released in US.
 
Jul 28, 2014 at 9:16 AM Post #134 of 15,268
They haven't been officially announced yet, so it's not that strange. The surprising thing is that anyone has managed to buy one.

My theory on the L2 is that it was probably made for european tastes hence not released in US.


I actually wish to sell my Annie for it. Just wanna try different thing and heard they are pretty natural sounding? I probably wouldn't wait for the X2... Wasn't that* much impressed with X1. Maybe it's just way too bassy :/ but always nice to see great bass quantity meet great soundstage!
 
Jul 28, 2014 at 11:15 AM Post #135 of 15,268
I actually wish to sell my Annie for it. Just wanna try different thing and heard they are pretty natural sounding? I probably wouldn't wait for the X2... Wasn't that* much impressed with X1. Maybe it's just way too bassy :/ but always nice to see great bass quantity meet great soundstage!

I've not heard the Annie so can't compare. From what I've read, I would say that the L2 probably has less bass than the X1, L1, Momentum, HP50, P7 but more than the AKG K550. It's also to have good soundstage depth if not width, so that could be a nice difference to AKG.
 
As for the X2, I am intrigued. Especially if it's on par with the L2 and tuned towards music listening, i.e.. more hi-fi.
 

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