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post #2281 of 17297
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I think Fang confirmed indirectly some pages ago that HE560s have a newer generation of diaphragm membrane, that is much thinner than previous-gen Hifiman planars (he was answering why there are holes under the retail HE560 storage boxes, that it was to maintain a pressure equilibrium to protect the ultra-thin new membranes). That is indeed how it gets the increased efficiency despite single-ended design, and probably the exceptional overall resolution and decay too.

post #2282 of 17297
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post
 

The 560 are everything I wished a more refined - and easier to drive - HE-4 would be. Fang and his crew listened to my wishes :D

 

Should have wished for them not to have doubled the price also :p.

post #2283 of 17297

Listening to some Joni Mitchell. I find it hard to get her voice and the guitar work to sound right, without being strident. The 560's do and Excellent job! I can finally enjoy Joni Mitchell. I love the way the guitar sounds, their is enough texture now and, you can almost see the strings vibrate as the notes dissipate. And the piano, so nice. 

post #2284 of 17297
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Should have wished for them not to have doubled the price also tongue.gif .
I forgot about that, oops biggrin.gif
post #2285 of 17297
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

I think Fang confirmed indirectly some pages ago that HE560s have a newer generation of diaphragm membrane, that is much thinner than previous-gen Hifiman planars (he was answering why there are holes under the retail HE560 storage boxes, that it was to maintain a pressure equilibrium to protect the ultra-thin new membranes). That is indeed how it gets the increased efficiency despite single-ended design, and probably the exceptional overall resolution and decay too.

I wonder if this means that taking the HE-560 on a plane without the box is unsafe? I was planning to put mine into the travel case in my carry-on, but after reading this I might stick to the box to play it safe.
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I wonder if this means that taking the HE-560 on a plane without the box is unsafe? I was planning to put mine into the travel case in my carry-on, but after reading this I might stick to the box to play it safe.

Is your travel case hermetically sealed? Most suitcases use zippers, which are not sealing in terms of air pressure. But if it's a Pelican case then you might have an issue.

post #2287 of 17297
How is that unsafe for the drivers? What's the actual risks?
post #2288 of 17297
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post

How is that unsafe for the drivers? What's the actual risks?

No clue, just something Fang stated when answering why the HE560 boxes have small holes drilled under them. Maybe the diaphragms are sensitive to sudden pressure changes?

post #2289 of 17297
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Originally Posted by jamato8 View Post

Listening to some Joni Mitchell. I find it hard to get her voice and the guitar work to sound right, without being strident. The 560's do and Excellent job! I can finally enjoy Joni Mitchell. I love the way the guitar sounds, their is enough texture now and, you can almost see the strings vibrate as the notes dissipate. And the piano, so nice. 

This has to do more with the way it was recorded (early 70's solid state gear), than what it's played back on. If the 560 can make those albums sound great, then I might have to pick up a pair.
post #2290 of 17297
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I wonder if this means that taking the HE-560 on a plane without the box is unsafe? I was planning to put mine into the travel case in my carry-on, but after reading this I might stick to the box to play it safe.

In my physics point of view, the headphone won't get affected by pressure different inside and outside of the box. I guess the membrane only gets damaged if there is a pressure difference between the 2 sides of the membrane. But since these can are open, the air on one side of the membrane is 'connected' to the other side, thus equal in pressure, it would not be an issue. I may be wrong here, do correct me if I am :o2smile: 

post #2291 of 17297
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well, the 560s sound damn good with my gear. :) just sayin' 

 

Great. My guess is 560 will sound damn good on all setups, as long as you have more amplification than a normal portal device, because its both fast and dont show all the flaws of the gear. It would be great if amplification could be omitted completely, because not beeing tied to an amp, and messing with portable amps, doesnt give you the same freedom. I think its a bit crazy we need need extra amplification for a HP. I hope - if possible -  we see a closed back variant of pm2  :D 

post #2292 of 17297

It worked quite well on the Hugo, too.

Is not really portable portable, but it's worth mentioning :ksc75smile:

post #2293 of 17297
Hopefully Fang will fix all the issues quickly. I personally think that the scratching problem on the cups will take quite some time to be solved.
post #2294 of 17297
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No clue, just something Fang stated when answering why the HE560 boxes have small holes drilled under them. Maybe the diaphragms are sensitive to sudden pressure changes?

My box doesn't have any holes drilled anywhere. Could my headphone drivers be damaged then?

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My box doesn't have any holes drilled anywhere. Could my headphone drivers be damaged then?

 

If it sounds fine then you're probably ok.

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