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post #331 of 4001

thanks Peter... :P

 

 

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Originally Posted by Charliemotta View Post
 

The bass is quite soft in impact and lacks some body with the ostrys. Also the treble is similarly forwarded. While I can't complain about the fit/comfort, the isolation is sub-par for the daily use. I'm not saying the ostrys are bad, it's just they are not worth the price tag when you have Havi B3 Pros (1) for $10 dollars less. This is only my personal opinion and I'm sure there will be 

arguments about it and that is fine. I certainly don't mean to offend anyone with my observations.

 

u roasted the turkey..ermmm ostrich huh...great !!

post #332 of 4001

Just placed an order for the B3 ( first version ) And the pistons. I really hope that the B3s are my taste, i would love a great sounding IEM with negative fit. Power is no need since i will use a zigis Cmoy. Pistons are for daily commute to work.

post #333 of 4001
I tried the B3 with both the schiit magni and the jds o2. source was my iphone 5. it was really good, even though it was with just with 320 files
post #334 of 4001
I also like them with the Magni, especially when fed from my tube DAC

Tubes and the B3 really makes the magic happen for me wink.gif

The LD I+ with Voshdok tubes is my favourite match with them.
Edited by peter123 - 5/10/14 at 8:12am
post #335 of 4001
Thread Starter 

From now on its proven that Havi B3 is packed with extra; 3 pairs of (S,M,L) senn double flanges and a foam eartip.

 

This photo is from Penon site:

CREATOR: gd-jpeg v1.0 (using IJG JPEG v62), quality = 90

(So it seems that there is no need to purchase senn double flanges for "new buyers"...)


Edited by Baycode - 5/12/14 at 5:32am
post #336 of 4001
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Originally Posted by Baycode View Post
 

From now on its proven that Havi B3 is packed with extra; 3 pairs of (S,M,L) senn double flanges and a foam eartip.

 

This photo is from Penon site:

CREATOR: gd-jpeg v1.0 (using IJG JPEG v62), quality = 90

(So it seems that there is no need to purchase senn double flanges for "new buyers"...)

Nice to see Penon including tips most of the B3 users found good - bit I am sticking with my tips from XKDUN CK-M700. Works best for me.

 

One interesting anecdote. A week or so ago, I was demoing B3 Pro (Old version) to a friend - and he gave a most interesting remark. I used crosfeed and appropriate bass lift with "enough" power on some VERY high quality material. At the limit of what is possible.

 

His remark was : I would be afraid to use these . 

 

Why? On most "normal" equipment, be it speaker or headphones, there is onset of distortion /compression/ signs of "something wrong" if you are nearing/approaching any SPL level that is approaching pain limit and should not be listened to any appreciable amount of time.

 

Havi CAN  take it without those signs - so please beware how loud you use them. Particularly long term - but prior to any switching of sources etc, make a habit of turning down the volume a second nature - if not already there.

 

Two days ago I monitored a soprano/organ concert recording in a small chapel ; despite the diminutive size of the chapel, organ does go very deep and loud. No problem for the B3 whatsover - but by now it has probably 400+ hours behind it.

post #337 of 4001
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Originally Posted by analogsurviver View Post
 

Nice to see Penon including tips most of the B3 users found good - bit I am sticking with my tips from XKDUN CK-M700. Works best for me.

 

One interesting anecdote. A week or so ago, I was demoing B3 Pro (Old version) to a friend - and he gave a most interesting remark. I used crosfeed and appropriate bass lift with "enough" power on some VERY high quality material. At the limit of what is possible.

 

His remark was : I would be afraid to use these . 

 

Why? On most "normal" equipment, be it speaker or headphones, there is onset of distortion /compression/ signs of "something wrong" if you are nearing/approaching any SPL level that is approaching pain limit and should not be listened to any appreciable amount of time.

 

Havi CAN  take it without those signs - so please beware how loud you use them. Particularly long term - but prior to any switching of sources etc, make a habit of turning down the volume a second nature - if not already there.

 

Two days ago I monitored a soprano/organ concert recording in a small chapel ; despite the diminutive size of the chapel, organ does go very deep and loud. No problem for the B3 whatsover - but by now it has probably 400+ hours behind it.

 

I believe that Havi included these ear-tips. Because about 2 weeks ago I got an email from Penon indicating that Havi will start to include senn ear-tips ;)

 

 

For the second part of your post analogsurvivor; that's why I am always measuring the SPL of all my iems's and hp's, because I cannot be sure of how much "loud" I am listening.

 

The most expensive and valuable  devices are our own "ears" and one fatal mistake, all is gone...

 

Its good point to warn people about this matter analogsurvivor :beerchug: 

post #338 of 4001
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Originally Posted by Charliemotta View Post
 

The bass is quite soft in impact and lacks some body with the ostrys. Also the treble is similarly forwarded. While I can't complain about the fit/comfort, the isolation is sub-par for the daily use. I'm not saying the ostrys are bad, it's just they are not worth the price tag when you have Havi B3 Pros (1) for $10 dollars less. This is only my personal opinion and I'm sure there will be 

arguments about it and that is fine. I certainly don't mean to offend anyone with my observations.

Thanks!  What kind of music do you listen to?

post #339 of 4001

Vast, Massive Attack, Alan parsons Project, Dire Straits, Moody Blues and the list goes on and on.

post #340 of 4001
Idk if the $5 double flanges you guys recommended on eBay are the same as the ones they include now, and I accidentally ordered the pro2, but it came with a long double flange and the Senn style I got on eBay are much shorter and more comfortable, although the isolation is a little lower, but these are much better for comfort.

I wish I had gotten the pro1 really, but honestly I can't understand something this price sounding any better than these! They beat my Sennheiser HD428 circumaural cans, granted they normally cost less than these online, but Senn full sized cans are good value and they were good while they lasted. I don't elects listen to music like I want, so I didn't use these for a few days...wow! Coming back to them really showed me the effect of the burn in and made me appreciate them even more.
post #341 of 4001
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Originally Posted by jonnyp11 View Post

Idk if the $5 double flanges you guys recommended on eBay are the same as the ones they include now, and I accidentally ordered the pro2, but it came with a long double flange and the Senn style I got on eBay are much shorter and more comfortable, although the isolation is a little lower, but these are much better for comfort.

I wish I had gotten the pro1 really, but honestly I can't understand something this price sounding any better than these! They beat my Sennheiser HD428 circumaural cans, granted they normally cost less than these online, but Senn full sized cans are good value and they were good while they lasted. I don't elects listen to music like I want, so I didn't use these for a few days...wow! Coming back to them really showed me the effect of the burn in and made me appreciate them even more.

You really should try the Pro 1 as well, and try to sell off the one you least prefer. The Pro 1 is even better.

post #342 of 4001

How good do they sound for vocal/uplifting trance? I don't really care about having much bass.

 

Also, I'm a bit confused about the posts saying that they really need to be amped, when some are wowed just by listening to them straight out of a cellphone. So I guess the question is, will I be missing A LOT if I used them straight out of my iPhone? Just curious if the Havis would still be worth considering in my case?

 

Great thread btw :smile: 

post #343 of 4001
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Originally Posted by vman View Post
 

How good do they sound for vocal/uplifting trance? I don't really care about having much bass.

 

Also, I'm a bit confused about the posts saying that they really need to be amped, when some are wowed just by listening to them straight out of a cellphone. So I guess the question is, will I be missing A LOT if I used them straight out of my iPhone? Just curious if the Havis would still be worth considering in my case?

 

Great thread btw :smile: 

I have yet not taken delivery of my pair.. But so what if they need and amp, you can always jump on the amp-train ;) :L3000:

post #344 of 4001
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vman View Post

How good do they sound for vocal/uplifting trance? I don't really care about having much bass.

Also, I'm a bit confused about the posts saying that they really need to be amped, when some are wowed just by listening to them straight out of a cellphone. So I guess the question is, will I be missing A LOT if I used them straight out of my iPhone? Just curious if the Havis would still be worth considering in my case?

Great thread btw smile.gif  
They sound better than any iem that I have ever heard for "especially vocal" and trance. Since microdriver units are used on B3 and one of the main characteristics of these units are fast response, you can get one of the best performance for fast music from a dynamic unit. One of the biggest strengths of B3 Pro1 is midrange. Vocals sound pleasantly and because of the imaging and soundstage capabilities you can actually feel the place of a vocalist if you close your eyes while listening. Some sources matches well even without an extra amp. My İ9100 for example (I prefer to use it with woodoo louder ap)... But Sansa Fuze sounds very thin. As I add Fiio11 to the Fuze, it starts to shine. I can use it with iPod Touch 4th Gen. directly. Only half volume is appropirate with that. I have tried it with my friends iPhone 5s and I had to push the volume up to nearly %85 to achieve an enough volume. If matched with a good amp they may jump on a higher level. But even without that (for some sources) they sound excellent (IMO).
Edited by Baycode - 5/13/14 at 3:56pm
post #345 of 4001
Quote:
Originally Posted by vman View Post

How good do they sound for vocal/uplifting trance? I don't really care about having much bass.

Also, I'm a bit confused about the posts saying that they really need to be amped, when some are wowed just by listening to them straight out of a cellphone. So I guess the question is, will I be missing A LOT if I used them straight out of my iPhone? Just curious if the Havis would still be worth considering in my case?

Great thread btw smile.gif  
Using an amplifier really brings out the best in the havi. They require a lot of power to unleash their full potential.

If you don't plan on using them with an amplifier, or plan on using just your phone most of the time, go with the ostry kc06. It has a sound similar to the havi but is much more efficient.

I would take the amped havi over the ostry any day, but if I didn't own an amplifier and knew I wasn't going to get one any time soon, I would be better off getting the ostry kc06
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