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post #376 of 427
I have had something of a breakthrough with the Airfi Matrix2 headphones. Now these are well known to have Earpads which are too small to fit over all but the smallest ears, so I went looking for some bigger ones. Well it seems like I have hit the jackpot first time.

I ordered a pair of Brainwavz HM5 earpads from MP4Nation and they arrived today. They fit really well and from a quick test seem to be ideal.

Here are some photos for anyone who is interested.








post #377 of 427

Awesome, these look to be a good match and I bet are way more comfy. Just curious, what does it do to the sound profile though? As I had previously posted, the FSL 360 pads while marginally better made the bass more boomy and reduced the sound stage somewhat.

 

Thx!

post #378 of 427
I'm not able to tell any difference in sound, but that's not to say there isn't one.
post #379 of 427

Hello, found this thread. I tried AKG K845BT, Philips M1BT and Sennheiser MM 550-X 

http://blog.ivantichy.cz/blogpost/view/57

post #380 of 427
Anyone try the phiaton chord ms530, just ordered a pair and wondering how they compare to other blue tooth headphones like the Sony mdr 1 mk2, logitech ue 9000, and harmon kardon bt?
post #381 of 427

@david8613 - 530 was discussed starting with post #268.

 

 

As an update, I've ended up using an iFrogz Coda Forte as my daily portable set (features aptX). The fit isn't quite adjustable but the sound signature is quite good (very similar to the AF62's but with slightly less mids and bass). Got them when they had the 50% off sale so these have been great bang for the buck. I also got the JBL E50BT but unfortuantely the address forwarding took effect too early so it's still en route to my new addy. Will report back how those are but neither of these can be considered truly high-end.

 

@tinyman392 - any chance you got the E50BT's yet?


Edited by turbobb - 7/23/14 at 4:26pm
post #382 of 427
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Originally Posted by turbobb View Post
 

@david8613 - 530 was discussed starting with post #268.

 

 

As an update, I've ended up using an iFrogz Coda Forte as my daily portable set (features aptX). The fit isn't quite adjustable but the sound signature is quite good (very similar to the AF62's but with slightly less mids and bass). Got them when they had the 50% off sale so these have been great bang for the buck. I also got the JBL E50BT but unfortuantely the address forwarding took effect too early so it's still en route to my new addy. Will report back how those are but neither of these can be considered truly high-end.

 

@tinyman392 - any chance you got the E50BT's yet?

 

I have not 

post #383 of 427
Thread Starter 

Good reviews. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks

post #384 of 427
Anyone check these samsung level over headphones, look pretty good spec wise wondering what they sound like?
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/mobile-accessories/mobilephone-accessories/EO-AG900BBEGWW
post #385 of 427
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Originally Posted by david8613 View Post

Anyone check these samsung level over headphones, look pretty good spec wise wondering what they sound like?
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/mobile-accessories/mobilephone-accessories/EO-AG900BBEGWW

looking forward for a review too

post #386 of 427

JBL E50BT REVIEW

So after a prolonged delay, I finally got the E50BT's yesterday (ordered from Amazon @ $149.95). Here are my initial impressions and only based on what I'm actually able to test (e.g. I'm not going to be able to provide feedback on ShareMe since I don't have another headset with that feature) using my iPod touch 5G as source and most listening material @ 320k (only listened via passive briefly so my comments are focused on BT connection):

 

PROS

  • Stylish good looks (subjective)
  • Nice solid construction although not on par with S400BT as that actually featured metal yokes to hold the cups whereas this is all plastic with the exception of the bolts for each hinge
  • One-touch instant on (this can also be a con since it can potentially be easily turned on during transport since no case is included) with quick connection to last device used 
  • Large dial on left cup with buttons arranged in N,S,E,W pattern. Interface is pretty intuitive and easy to use once you familiarize yourself with it
  • Track seek by holding down Multi-Function-Button (this single button also controls pause/play and track forward/backward depending on # of presses and duration)
  • Volume control directly integrated with iPod's (i.e.: not necessary to adjust headphone volume independently of source - don't have Android device so can't say if it's same on those devices)
  • 50mm drivers offer ear-deafening volumes at max

 

CONS

  • I think there should an industry-wide standard as to what can be construed as circumaural... the E50BT is of a decent size but the pad's ID measures ~46mm. I honestly don't believe I have Dumbo ears but my lobes are now pinched by the bottom of the pad and it's incurring pain after about 30 minutes worth of wearing them. Another point to this then is I wonder if this impedes the 50mm drivers thus affecting the sound profile?
  • Somebody in marketing/design obviously doesn't subscribe to the "less is more" school of thought; there are three very large and distinct JBL logo's; one on each side of the cup and one in silver letters on the top of the leather headband, it totally detracts from the otherwise (IMO) nice design
  • Somebody in engineering obviously doesn't believe or care that rattles are desired by headphone wearers as much as one desires a trephine's results to the head; seriously - who wants to hear the headphone itself? The button on the side while nicely implemented, doesn't have enough of a spring backing to prevent it from rattling. This is the exact same issue that the FSL 360 had albeit on a smaller scale. The "button" is so loose that merely turning one's head can invoke rattling... :rolleyes:
  • Continued use of their proprietary charging cable vs. the ubiquitous micro USB
  • So-so isolation (exacerbated by the fact this isn't truly circumaural - at least not for me)
  • Lack of memory-foam on pads - however they are reasonably comfortable
  • No case or even carrying pouch - if the FSL 360 can include a very nice hard shell case for the original release price of $69.99 (now only $39.99), I'd imagine that more mfg's can include one as well (especially for a headphone costing more than double)
  • No aptX support (confirmed via lack of indication when connected to aptX adapter)
  • Strange/poor bluetooth implementation - upon turn on, it'll default to pairing mode, once paired, if you pair with a new device you can't reconnect back to the first device that you paired without first deleting the profile and re-pairing. What???? :confused:
  • Cups can only pivot so that the pads can be folded flat towards your chest (when worn around your neck) rather than facing away from you. This prevents you from angling the cups so that it tapers towards the back of the head where it makes more sense IMO since one's ears are usually aligned closer to the back of the head. This is important to create a good seal, case in point, I wore these reversed and angled the cups to taper towards the back of my head and sure enough, this improved seal and bass as well.
  • While the headphones do fold, since the hinges are on the same axis, you have to twist the frame a little to make the cups overlap, they should've made the hinges offset from each other so that you can truly fold these in a compact manner with the cups resting comfortably over each other
  • Aesthetic triangle-shaped cut-out on the hinge bolt not fully deburred so it has sharp jagged edges (not an issue as long as you're not in habit of touching it or plan on storing in cloth case where it may snag)

 

SOUND

Being a relative newb, I'm going to keep it simple here and let those who are more articulate and experienced go into finer details (i.e. wait for tinyman392's review :D). The E50BT offers a clean listening experience that isn't clinical (e.g. ATH-M50). Despite JBL touting that this features PureBass and offers "powerful bass", it's slightly bass light (IMO) and has a upper mid/lower treble hump thus while I wouldn't necessarily consider this a bright headphone, there are certain tracks that exhibit mild sibilance (e.g. Titanium (feat. Sia). Soundstage is slightly better than other closed back headphones that I have. I think it's great for Rock but not as good on other genre's (electronic).

 

INITIAL CONCLUSION

Disclosure: I'm a huge fan of Harman products but I feel they missed the boat on this one. It's a decent headphone if you love mid-centric sound profile and only ever plan on pairing it with just one device and will take advantage of the ShareMe feature but other than that I feel there are better choices in the market in this price bracket. Of course it's still early in the stages of testing and I haven't let this fully burn-in yet (albeit I remain somewhat skeptical to this phenomenon - at least in terms that my ears can hear and that my brain can remember) but even if the sound profile were to improve, some of the con's I mentioned like the weird bluetooth connection and especially that rattle will lead me on the path to returning these. 


Edited by turbobb - 8/4/14 at 3:35pm
post #387 of 427
Waiting on news of logitech/UE 9000 updated model, why are they taking so long?
post #388 of 427
Hi, I'd like to add that indeed the pads on the MEE matrix 2s are too small and are more on ear than over. This has disappointed me greatly as the build and sound quality has impressed, also the included case is nice. At half the price of the Sony MDR10RBTs I thought I was onto a winner but feel I may have to return and go with the Sonys.

Anyone had a direct comparison with the Sony MDR10RBT and Matrix2?
Edited by JRUK - 8/12/14 at 4:51am
post #389 of 427

How dop you get these refurbished harman kardons?

post #390 of 427
While Im waiting for some Brainwavz pads to improve the fit of my just purchased Airfi Matrix2 AF62's - I ordered some Sony MDR-10RBT which have just arrived today. Immediatly they are 100 times more comfortable than the Matrix2 AF62's as they actually fit over your ears, but they are no where near as well made and after a few hours listening Im not impressed with the sound quality when comparing them directly. Will this improve with some burn in time?

The build of the Sonys is very cheap: cheap feeling light plastic, cheap silver spray job, cheap sticky feeling pleather, cheap light feeling buttons, exposed usb port. Also for my ears there's very little bass and they dont block out much external noise (I work in a busy office and could still hear mumbles of speech). In many ways this just highlights the great price point of the Airfi Matrix2 AF62 for me. They cost under £100 and have a far superior & solid feeling build quality when compared to the efforts of a huge company like Sony. This is just my first impressions, I could be swayed if the Sonys sound improved with some listening.*

Also worth noting is the case that comes with the Airfi Matrix2 AF62 is much better than the Sony MDR-10RBT's as its a form fitted hard case. Can anyone recommend a case for the MDR-10RBT's?

Ive also noticed a battery symbol appear on my iphone when using the Airfi Matrix2 AF62 but not when using the MDR-10RBT. Boo! I can only assume this is because the Airfi Matrix2 AF62 is Bluetooth V4?

If the Brainwavz pads work out and improve the fit of Airfi Matrix2 AF62 then the MDR-10RBT's will be off to ebay very quickly. If not then I may end up back at the start with no bluetooth headphones!

Not been a great week of purchases for me, and this is the first time Ive dipped my toe into blutooth headphones. If only my DT770's were bluetooth, easily my most comfortable and best sounding headphones yet!


* Update: After a day of listening to the Sony MDR-10RBT then coming home to the Airfi Matrix2 AF62, the Sonys are now on ebay. They just dont have the clean, crisp and bassy sound that I get from the AF62's. I just dont trust the Sonys to last either, I just cant get over how cheap they feel in hand. Ok once on the head they are comfortable but its not enough. The ear cup swivel is flimsy, and run your finger on the plastic cups and mounts and it makes you shudder, thin and hollow.

Without EQ the Sonys are too harsh with barely any bass response, with an iphone eq like "electronic" they are better (I listen to drum & bass and hip hop mainly) but still seem to flat and mushy, like listening inside a bean can. To contrast the Airfi Matrix2 AF62 has clean treble, clear mids and bass can be heard but sadly not felt but these are bluetooth headphones I guess, I cant expect them to sound like my DT770's.

Im sounding like Im really hating on Sony (I love my PS4), I guess its because I expected more - so much so I purchased the MDR-10RBT from ebay so I have no chance of returning them, I may take a financial hit just because I had to have them after reading so many good things about them. Still at least I also have read good things about the Airfi Matrix2 AF62 while never having heard of MEE Electronics before, so far the punt on those was worth it. Will update when I have my new Brainwavz pads, they should be same fit as Tyler's but I've gone for the velor.
Edited by JRUK - 8/12/14 at 3:04pm
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