Suggestions for new cans with better depth in soundstage.
Mar 2, 2014 at 3:21 PM Post #31 of 48
I don't understand the whole thing about the ma900's angle. Theyre angled in a way so the drivers face your outer ear so it doesn't directly shove the sound into your ear canal. Just in case there's a misinterpretation, the picture has the guy facing away from the screen, implying that the sound is being projected from a point on front of your head, just like speakers.
 
I'd definitely recommend the ma900. All the good stuff you hear about the q/k70x's soundstage is because it has tons of width. Even my lcd2, a headphone that isn't really known for soundstage, beats my q701 in depth.
 
That said, the akg k70x definitely doesn't have much depth. It's very obvious when switching to something like the hd800, which has boatloads of depth, enough to make music sound out of head like speakers.
 
edit: grammer and speeling

+1 
 
Also, people often confuse sound stage depth with width and the other way around for some reason I don't really get..
 
Mar 2, 2014 at 3:29 PM Post #32 of 48
Get some ZMF modded fostex and get some alpha pads for added depth. I just think the alpha pads muffle them a tad but that is a good one. 
 
otherwise the philips x1... the akg's don't have depth just width. Even a beyer t90 but its BRIGHT.
 
the ZMF will run with the aune t1. Or even a Mad dog 3.2. I also have a yamaha hp mt220 for sale and if you put alpha pads on those that would be the ticket for sure. It has a good soundstage and the pads make a better match on it than the ZMF. The depth added is more than acceptable.
 
Mar 2, 2014 at 3:37 PM Post #33 of 48
  Get some ZMF modded fostex and get some alpha pads for added depth. I just think the alpha pads muffle them a tad but that is a good one. 
 
otherwise the philips x1... the akg's don't have depth just width. Even a beyer t90 but its BRIGHT.
 
the ZMF will run with the aune t1. Or even a Mad dog 3.2. I also have a yamaha hp mt220 for sale and if you put alpha pads on those that would be the ticket for sure. It has a good soundstage and the pads make a better match on it than the ZMF. The depth added is more than acceptable.

The T90 is way overpriced for it's SQ.
 
Mar 2, 2014 at 4:19 PM Post #35 of 48
  true I thought it has some good imaging though. But I would agree. I just thought it had decent depth

If you can get it for $400 then at that point I would say it's worth it.
 
Mar 2, 2014 at 4:22 PM Post #36 of 48
I would recommend the q701's, they are a steal on amazon at 200 usd. Other options are the audio technica ath-ad900/700x or akg 240 mk 2. As for the beyerdynamics, the dt-990 are bass and treble focused and I am not sure if that is the sound signature you are looking for. The dt-880's are more mid focused, but are only semi-open so you lose some soundstage size.
 
Mar 2, 2014 at 4:26 PM Post #37 of 48
^you guys gotta stop recommending akg they have no depth. Its all panned out on the sides. Aslo the dt880 don't have much eitherQuote:
  If you can get it for $400 then at that point I would say it's worth it.

I don't even know what they self for brand new. When ever I mention it it is at the price I see it for around here on head-fi and what I bought it for. I got mine used in good condition for 350 or so. They take verrrryyy well to eq and sound like a whole different headphone when you bring the highs down. 
 
Mar 2, 2014 at 4:46 PM Post #38 of 48
Another interesting lesser known headphone that might intrigue you is the goldring dr150. They supposedly sound very much like the sennheiser 600 series, but cheaper and more aggressive. Read this review:

Headfonia.com/goldring-headphones-dr50-dr100-dr150/
 
Mar 2, 2014 at 5:23 PM Post #39 of 48
  I don't even know what they self for brand new. When ever I mention it it is at the price I see it for around here on head-fi and what I bought it for. I got mine used in good condition for 350 or so. They take verrrryyy well to eq and sound like a whole different headphone when you bring the highs down. 

Oh I bet they do.  I was considering them for awhile but the price never fluctuated from $650 brand new.
 
Mar 2, 2014 at 5:59 PM Post #40 of 48
Prices getting littlebit high with these new recommendations :frowning2:
 
And really, Q701/K701/K702 have no decent depth? Only width is great? That sucks then. Would be pissed off when I get AKG`s and discover that my modded Superlux HD-681 is better in that part. They are actually with pretty good depth but since I know they have reached limit in depth department and my Aune T1 has some more to offer, then looking for better cans.
 
DT-990 is not in my mind because emphasis @ highs and lows. DT-880 is good option and there are many used ones for sale but they seem big and heavy. 
 
You who have experience say Philips X1 are better than AKG Q701/K701/K702?. They look awesome and seem very comfortable but price is littlebit high again :frowning2:
 
Sony MDR-MA900 seem to be discontinued and not so widely available (with ok shipping price to EU) and price is also littlebit high.
 
About different modded Fostex t50rp - they seem not so good fit with Aune T1 according to Aune T1 thread impressions. Soundstage width seems to have not so good comments. Price is also probably little high.
 
With all those recommendations and negative comments about AKG soundstage depth... I`m actually leaning towards Soundmagic HP-200 which I can get for around 170€ brand new. They have very good reviews and impressions. 
 
So, atm thinking about those:
 
1) New Soundmagic HP-200 (looks are ok and construction seems very high quality, reviews say only good about sound)
2) Used Beyerdynamic DT-880 (look great and seem comfortable apart weight and size)
3) New Sennheiser HD-598 (like the looks and they seem to be similar to HD-650 according to some reviews BUT they also seem to have not so good construction and depth)
 
Any more comments and recommendations?
 
Mar 2, 2014 at 7:26 PM Post #42 of 48
Okay, adding X1 to option list because it should be good match with Aune T1 (smoothing out highs and "boosting" mids). But it`s littlebit difficult to get it in my country and shipping from elsewhere adds considerable amount of money (haven`t found good place to buy with ok shipping price yet).
 
Mar 2, 2014 at 7:46 PM Post #43 of 48
Another option is the goldring dr150s. They supposedly sound a lot like the senns 600 series, but for only $130 usd. one review I found is on headfonia .com just search on the website
 
Mar 2, 2014 at 7:52 PM Post #44 of 48
Yeah, I`ve read about them but they seem to be "slow" and lack of punch according to reviews. Plus, I don`t like the design much, looks too plastic. 
But seems that choices are narrowing down to DT-880 premium 250Ohm or Philips Fidelio X1.
 
Mar 2, 2014 at 7:57 PM Post #45 of 48
Prices getting littlebit high with these new recommendations :frowning2:

And really, Q701/K701/K702 have no decent depth? Only width is great? That sucks then. Would be pissed off when I get AKG`s and discover that my modded Superlux HD-681 is better in that part. They are actually with pretty good depth but since I know they have reached limit in depth department and my Aune T1 has some more to offer, then looking for better cans.

DT-990 is not in my mind because emphasis @ highs and lows. DT-880 is good option and there are many used ones for sale but they seem big and heavy. 

You who have experience say Philips X1 are better than AKG Q701/K701/K702?. They look awesome and seem very comfortable but price is littlebit high again :frowning2:

Sony MDR-MA900 seem to be discontinued and not so widely available (with ok shipping price to EU) and price is also littlebit high.

About different modded Fostex t50rp - they seem not so good fit with Aune T1 according to Aune T1 thread impressions. Soundstage width seems to have not so good comments. Price is also probably little high.

With all those recommendations and negative comments about AKG soundstage depth... I`m actually leaning towards Soundmagic HP-200 which I can get for around 170€ brand new. They have very good reviews and impressions. 

So, atm thinking about those:

1) New Soundmagic HP-200 (looks are ok and construction seems very high quality, reviews say only good about sound)
2) Used Beyerdynamic DT-880 (look great and seem comfortable apart weight and size)
3) New Sennheiser HD-598 (like the looks and they seem to be similar to HD-650 according to some reviews BUT they also seem to have not so good construction and depth)

Any more comments and recommendations?


You can get the beyers new a for 230 US dollars (not sure how much where you are) at sonicsense.com

Edit: that is for the 32 ohm, 250 ohm much cheaper
 

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