These Ostriches i can't even......
 
.... it's actually one of these in disguise. : P
... those that aren't getting great bass/ thin sounding check your sauces. WOW!!!
 
My Nokia N9 never sounded this AMAZING.  

I don't know if you're joking or not, but tbh, I'm kinda.freaking out about how good these are sounding. My head is exploding with musical dynamism. Pretty wild - and they're not even fully burned in yet!

Glad everyone is happy with their KC06. Looking forward to impressions of the KC06A so I can get another pair of on-the-go IEMs. Now way are my FX850s leaving the house.

gyx11 said:

 
I agree fully with almost everything you said. I guess we have very similar ears 

I have been paying special attention to the bass of the KC06 and B3 and I also agree with your assessment of it. Essentially, bass conscious listeners will find problems with either of the two. The KC06 has ample bass imo but in layman terms, is slightly 'sloppy'. The B3 doesn't have the best bass texture either, but it is still slightly better, although it just simply doesn't have enough body for some people.

The only thing I don't quite agree is the part where you mentioned poor separation and imaging. Sure these may not come close to the Havi B3, but they're pretty good as well, so 'poor' is a little too strong a word for this.

Unlike you also, I wouldn't say I prefer the B3 over the KC06. The airiness and clarity of the KC06 is IMO amazing enough to make up for where it loses points to the B3 in accuracy, reproduction/imaging and timbre.

I feel the best way to resolve this is as what you mentioned. One is more fun and engaging, the other more laid back and accurate. So... use both at different times according to either mood, or genre of songs you intend to listen to at a certain point of time! 

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Sorry for my poor English. I couldn't realize the effect of the term "poor" in my writings. Thank you for mentioning. All the terms "poor" should be replaced with "slightly less" or "less". My native language is not English. So I apologize for any inconvenience.
 
Dear gyx11, I read your review  on KC06 as well and I accept that our sound perception is very very similar.

waynes world said:

I don't know if you're joking or not, but tbh, I'm kinda.freaking out about how good these are sounding. My head is exploding with musical dynamism. Pretty wild - and they're not even fully burned in yet!

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Initially listened with my new 5th gen ipod nano my friend hooked me up with fo' free, the dac on that nano is more airy/ softer in presentation hence it didn't gel very well with the same airy/ softer presentation of these Ostriches. So i didn't even touch them over the weekend. LoL
 
But today was like what the heck, i need to try some other sources to see how they gel. And MAN OH MAN, went back to my old 4th gen ipod nano which is pretty clean, tight, more clinical in its presentation as with a lot of cirrus logic dacs apple uses, which brought out more sub bass as well as bass texture. So i like man these are now sounding damn sweet with his source.
 
And since these Ostriches were so easy to drive i was thinking hmmm, these should be able to be driven REALLY well on my low arse power Nokia N9 which can barely drive the MH1/Cs loud enough. Boi was it a nice surprise to fine out that these Ostriches gel even more amazingly with my crappy N9 than even my tried and true nano/ venturecraft go-dac combo. hoho
 
Pretty giddy that even my N9s low power amp can drive these with one click of juice left, and that not only is the bass bigger than from the nano/ go-dac combo but it is more bombastic/ better textured/ with deeper sub bass and everything even mo' better.
 
Need to update my initial impressions tbh. Much of it still stands but it has improved to be on par with the gr07 BEs is what i am hearing now.
 
HYPED!!!
 
edit: oh and it is sure gonna' be interesting to try them on my 5th gen ipod classic, cuz that has the warmer woftson dac but the soundstage is also wider and a bit softer in presentation compared to my tight and clean 4th gen nano. The dac of the 5th gen nano is almost in between that of the 4th gen nano and the 5th gen ipod classic it seems but leaning more toward the characteristics of the 4th gen nanos.

Finally waynes

eke2k6 said:

   
Then our definitions must be different. To me, the Ostry is tight and well defined, even next to the likes of the K3003.
 
For me, height is the most important factor in making a realistic and involving image. Depth for me is the individual separation of the left to right cues, adding more dimension between them. Height is how high and low these cues can travel. For instance, can I hear the cymbals crashing above my head in the soundscape?  Do the drums rumble below me? It's a really difficult thing to explain without you hearing it, and it's something I've mainly found in IEMs that are shaped like customs. It's a huge part of why I've used my ASG-2 so long as primary. There's ver clear vertical separation of cues.
 
Sorry if I'm rambling lol.

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Dear eke2k6 I assume you already now this link: http://www.head-fi.org/a/describing-sound-a-glossary
 
My terminology have roots on the descriptions in that link.
 
And soundstage is described as: Soundstage - The area between two speakers that appears to the listener to be occupied by sonic images. Like a real stage, a soundstage should have width, depth, and height.
 
...and
 
Depth - A sense of distance (near to far) of different instruments.
 
Imaging - The sense that a voice or instrument is in a particular place in the room.
 
So if we write only "depth" that's something different in some ways from "soundstage depth".
 
 
Our definition of sound is not exactly the same, that caused the problem (IMO).
 
If I miss something please point it out for me.

waynes world said:

Pretty wild - and they're not even fully burned in yet!

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Be careful, it has been mentioned before that these don't need burn in. Instead they burn out very slowly over time.
 
You may be wasting the best part of their life cycle on pink noise...
 
j/k

One thing about the KC06 which bothers me, is that the mids are so freaking forward, and the airiness seems to be emphasized only in the mids region, that on some tracks the music doesn't seem to be playing in harmony and the mids are just drowning everything out. does anybody else have this problem?

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  One thing about the KC06 which bothers me, is that the mids are so freaking forward, and the airiness seems to be emphasized only in the mids region, that on some tracks the music doesn't seem to be playing in harmony and the mids are just drowning everything out. does anybody else have this problem?

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Should I say "me too"   
 

Case in point: The Temper Trap - Down River (those of you aussies must surely have heard of them). The vocals are already forward enough in this track. The KC06 makes them far too pronounced in the middle IMHO.

In tracks like Gladiator OST - Now We Are Free, the Lisa Gerard's vocals are more subtle, so the KC06's mid airiness complements the track so much better.

They both actually are not mid forward enough compared to a lot of my music lol. With my setup, from the youtube video of temper trap it actually highlight the bass more than other frequency but I found they're mostly linear and the recording is mostly projected in front of me.

hmmm I had a look the youtube version of Down River. it has horrendous quality though. The FLAC version that I have sounds much more forward, maybe that could explain for the discrepancy.

Listening to my Ostriches again, after 2 weeks. Still sounds awesome.

-Hops aboard hype train again-

I'm hopping the dunu dn2k train soon in two weeks time..it will be in my hands