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jbm · Oct 20, 2016 at 2:01 AM

wink said:
FTFY

You really need to discover coffee......

Keep a jug next to the bed.

Ha. At the risk of taking something jokey too seriously... this approach won't work for me for two reasons. One is that if I drink coffee on an empty gut before laying down a layer of food, it eats straight through my stomach. Another is that I really really love coffee - which is why I'll never be choking down day-old oxidized sludge from a jug by the bed just to use coffee as a caffeine delivery system.

To eat a little breakfast and make a nice fresh pot of joe... I have to get up and move around. To get up and move around... I prefer to start with music, then check my email for emergencies, then stumble out into the rest of the house. It's what works for me. I just need to identify an equipment setup which will facilitate this properly.

ToddRaymond · Oct 20, 2016 at 2:22 AM

Too tired to flip a power switch, huh? Get off my lawn, etc.

jbm · Oct 20, 2016 at 2:22 AM

bigro said:
If you leave it switched to the Passive or Jfet Buffer Mode. With the tubes out, I do not see any reason why you could not leave the power switch on and use the remote for volume control. There you go, now you can Join the waiting Line, you are in good company

Sweet.

The other option I'd been thinking of was just leaving a Jotunheim powered up and at an approximately-right volume level - the J'heim doesn't get too unreasonably warm long-term, and I'm really impressed with its sound. It has an amazing live quickness, if that makes sense.

I hadn't yet gotten enough other stuff gathered to try the idea out - if the combination of gains and noise signatures of everything involved resulted in any noticeable noise across the room during sleepytime it'd be a no-go - but it'd probably work out fine, the Gumby and Jotunheim are pretty quiet, as are reasonable runs of balanced cable.

But now that the Freya is on the way, I feel myself drawn to it! I'd really prefer a working remote to a previous-night volume guess.

OldRoadToad · Oct 20, 2016 at 7:01 AM

'tis a good thing the integrated does not feature a nice pair of VU Meters up front as those remind me of the equipment of my youth. Other wise I find the look of Schiit's products to be neo-classical.

ORT

bigro · Oct 20, 2016 at 7:50 AM

That was good interview. Mike Seemed to have an allergic reaction when they brought up Class D. I think I saw Hives Breaking out. At the risk of getting put in the time out box, I have seen some interesting reviews of those Class "T" amps from some random unknown companies. Supposedly Similar to Class D but sound better. I Wonder if the Guys..errr Jason Have looked at this as he mentioned a what if scenario with a Modi Amp. (Only a what if scenario, not a coming soon scenario). If The T in Class T Stands for Trash we can leave it there and move on, but if is half way decent architecture that requires some help it may be viable. I have considered these for places where a big battleaxe Class A or A/B is sort of overkill although I can't bring myself to pull the trigger, so I have no first hand experience.

hornytoad · Oct 20, 2016 at 9:18 AM

In a article today Darko says the preamps won't ship till December so I'm a little confused .

I was hearing Late October for shipment.

JoeKickass · Oct 20, 2016 at 10:20 AM

bigro said:
...If The T in Class T Stands for Trash we can leave it there and move on, but if is half way decent architecture that requires some help it may be viable.

I Google'd and found this $2,500 class t:
http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/audioresearch_1502.htm

I'm still skeptical though, Wikipedia says:
"It is an implementation of class-D amplifiers, but uses proprietary techniques to control the pulse width modulation."

hornytoad said:
In a article today Darko says the preamps won't ship till December so I'm a little confused .

I was hearing Late October for shipment.

I hope not, my refreshing finger won't make it that long... I'll have to construct some kind of page refreshing robot!

Jason Stoddard · Oct 20, 2016 at 11:07 AM

Class T = Class D. No, thank you.

Think of Class D as DSD8 or something like that. (like 1/8 the rate of DSD64). Same idea. Throw away the original for an approximation. Doesn't sound so appealing now, does it?

bigro · Oct 20, 2016 at 11:14 AM

jason stoddard said:
Class T = Class D. No, thank you.

Think of Class D as DSD8 or something like that. (like 1/8 the rate of DSD64). Same idea. Throw away the original for an approximation. Doesn't sound so appealing now, does it?

So Class T = Trash... Got it.

Reading the Article JoeKickAss Posted it seems at More than 3x the target price of the Vidar it still is nothing special.

"If you rigidly align yourself with either the tube or solid-state camp, the 150.2 may not float your boat. The 150.2 lacks the rich, shining-light-from-within sense that tube lovers crave. At the same time it’s missing the laser-like precision and cleanliness that many solid-state amps demonstrate."

That also Explains Mikes Reaction When The Topic came up. He started to clear the room like in high school when some one dropped a stink bomb.

45longcolt · Oct 20, 2016 at 11:26 AM

jbm said:
... if I drink coffee on an empty gut before laying down a layer of food, it eats straight through my stomach.

Try Mountain Dew for an alternative caffeine delivery system. Whether you want to face MD at 0-dark-thirty is another question, but don't condemn until you've tried it. Oh, and it's best very cold, so perhaps you need a bedside mini-fridge....some folks are having college dorm flashbacks right about now...

Really looking forward to Freya, but not in a big hurry since I don't have a functional power amp in stock. Think I'll wait for them to sneak a few out in my favored black finish rather than rushing to be an early adopter. Unless there's a way to use Ragnarok as a power amp which I've overlooked.

Marshall Hance · Oct 20, 2016 at 11:41 AM

Look up Ncore amps. Find some to listen to. They are an incredible bargain, and I'd be surprised if any class A or AB amp could approach their quality below their cost, which is only pennies higher than the Vidar for a pair of monoblocks. Class D can be done extremely well when the designer breaks a few rules. I look forward to feeding my Ncores with a Freya, either this month or December... itchy trigger finger syndrome for sure.

Class T isn't complete trash. Given a $25 budget, I don't think you could do better.

US Blues · Oct 20, 2016 at 11:54 AM

joekickass said:
bigro said:

...If The T in Class T Stands for Trash we can leave it there and move on, but if is half way decent architecture that requires some help it may be viable.

Click to expand...

I Google'd and found this $2,500 class t:
http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/audioresearch_1502.htm

I'm still skeptical though, Wikipedia says:
"It is an implementation of class-D amplifiers, but uses proprietary techniques to control the pulse width modulation."

For $1K less than the cost of the Audio Research amp, a listener will be able to purchase a pair of Vidars. More power + superior sound for far less coinage.

Ableza · Oct 20, 2016 at 12:07 PM

Class T means it's a Class D amp based on a Tripath chip. I built one a few years ago and it's not bad. Not very dynamic and lacks output below about 100Hz, but not bad for background listening on a budget.

StanD · Oct 20, 2016 at 12:24 PM

ableza said:
Class T means it's a Class D amp based on a Tripath chip. I built one a few years ago and it's not bad. Not very dynamic and lacks output below about 100Hz, but not bad for background listening on a budget.

I'd rather get a Magni when on a budget. Yes some of the Class T and D Amps are somewhat cheaper, but that usually means poor quality as well as limited performance. In the past I've read about quality issues with inexpensive Topping amps. I don't think Jason is interested in that market.
Besides, most audiophiles don't want switching power supplies in their kit, so why would they go for a switching Amp.

judmarc · Oct 20, 2016 at 12:25 PM

jason stoddard said:
2016, Chapter 13:
Into the 2-Channel World: The Saga of Saga
(and, um, Freya too)
* * *

In fact, what I more than likely did (I honestly don't remember, which lends credence to this guess) is start drinking and thinking about what would make a good preamp.

Now, I wasn't working entirely in a vacuum. In fact, one member here on head-fi made a very powerful case that doing a passive remote preamp would be a great step for us, based on the very limited options available in the market.

Hmm...

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