Josef, from JPlay, reply this: http://jplay.eu/forum/jplay/jplay-with-out-of-your-head/#p24724

hi rdsu – have not yet heard of Out Of Your Head but if it does not support KS or WASAPI (has to be event mode) then it just won't work
But, reading the FAQ page maybe there is an alternative: first output to OOH and if I read FAQ correctly you can then specify Output Device in OOH Control Panel: Does JPLAY show up there? (It should if OOH supports ASIO).
If OOH does _not_ support ASIO then try ASIOBridge: Set Hi-Fi Cable(http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/Cable/index.htm) as Output Device and in ASIOBridge set JPLAY Driver as ASIO output….
Curious to hear if it works

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My Laptop audio card only support DirectSound, and my AudioPC has Windows Server 2012 Core Edition, which doesn't support WASAPI...
I need to convert it to GUI, install OOYH, and then try all the process...

On my Laptop I have the WASAPI output of OOYH!

If you can try it soon, let me know if it works for you...

Thanks for your support!

rdsu said:

Josef, from JPlay, reply this: http://jplay.eu/forum/jplay/jplay-with-out-of-your-head/#p24724
My Laptop audio card only support DirectSound, and my AudioPC has Windows Server 2012 Core Edition, which doesn't support WASAPI...
I need to convert it to GUI, install OOYH, and then try all the process...

On my Laptop I have the WASAPI output of OOYH!

If you can try it soon, let me know if it works for you...

Thanks for your support!

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I tried it and got it working. Not sure if I can hear a difference other than the level seems lower for some reason.
 
So here's how I configured it:
 
Install ASIO Bridge.
 
JRiver Media Center 20 --> Direct Sound or WASAPI (OOYH) --> Set Out Of Your Head as your default audio playback device --> in Out Of Your Head select "HiFi Cable" as your output device --> Run ASIO Bridge, select JPLAY driver as the ASIO audio device --> In JPLAY Settings, select your DAC.
 
I think it works best if you select WASAPI (OOYH) and then make sure in the JRiver DSP settings, you set all audio to be converted to 48kHz.
 
-Darin

Thanks Darin!

Yes, a lot of programs to make it happen...

I have to try it soon...

Strange that you don't have he WASAPI OOYH Output in JPlay...

Regards

Quick tip for those who are having trouble "getting the effect" of OOYH and find the sound "spacey" or "hollow." In my opinion, there is a psychoacoustic burn in that is necessary. First time I went scuba diving my brain couldn't get over the fact that I could breath air underwater. I had to trick my mind to adjust. In the same way you do have to allow your mind to hear speakers that aren't there in the "airless" chamber within your headphones.
 
So you might want to give this a try. After you're done switching back and forth between direct sound and OOYH, leave it alone for a while. When you come back turn off the lights. I know... but, in the dark your mind is more susceptible to the suggestion that sound really is coming from somewhere from the space "out there." Make sure you don't listen to direct sound at all, and let the first thing you hear come through OOYH. 
 
I can say with full confidence as you upgrade your equipment OOYH scales up right along to the point where all the technology  vanishes. With an open mind and the right equipment, OOYH is able to get you beyond just hearing top-tier speaker systems. It's able to recreate the reason why people spend tens of thousands on in the first place. It connects you to the experience of music in a way that only great systems can.  OOYH has become just as legitimate and indispensable to me as any world class DAC or headphone to achieving what we are all after in the end: music. 

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  I think overall the bass energy may be proportionally less than what you get with direct sound to your headphones.

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Actually my experience is quite the opposite: most, if not all, of the presets seem to exaggerate bass response. With bass-heavy tracks, OOYH actually makes my AKG K1000:s as well as my Beyerdynamic DT 880:s rattle! After noticing this effect I remembered the TB Isone manual mentioning that Isone's algorithm somewhat exaggerates bass response, so I have come to think that maybe the algorithm used by OOYH does this to. TB Isone offers an optional highpass filter to counteract this effect, so maybe OOYH needs one to? However, I think OOYH exaggerates bass much more than TB Isone does.
 
I use the OS X version, by the way. Mostly with Audirvana Plus 2 and XBMC Gotham.

A few people have contacted us lately about recording the processed audio output from Out Of Your Head for use on portable devices, etc.
 
I posted instructions for Windows users earlier in this thread in this post:
post #36
 
But for Mac users, here's the instructions to do the same using Audacity and SoundFlower.
 

• Download and install Soundflower from here: Download Soundflower (you may have to restart after installation.)
• Download and install Audacity for Mac: Download Audacity 2.0.6 for Mac OS X 10.4 to 10.9.x
• Open your favorite media player app
• Launch Out Of Your Head
• Make sure Out Of Your Head is working with your media player app. Test using your headphones.
• In the Out Of Your Head Control Panel, select "Soundflower (2CH)" as your output device.
• Launch Audacity
• In Audacity select "Soundflower(2CH)" as your input source. (You can select the input device from the drop down menu next to the microphone icon on the top toolbar in Audacity.)
• Now, start recording in Audacity and very quickly start your music playing in your media player app.
• You should see the audio being recorded in Audacity.
• You can stop the recording in Audacity when the audio is done recording.
• Then you can save the recording as an audio file.

 
So here's a quick diagram of the signal path:
 
Audio Player app --> Out Of Your Head --> Soundflower (2CH) --> Audacity --> record audio --> save recording as an audio file
 
You now have an audio file that is the processed audio from Out Of Your Head. When playing back the file to test, make sure you exit Out Of Your Head or put Out Of Your Head in Bypass mode so you don't hear the processed audio file processed a 2nd time.

Hmm.. gave it a try and it's definitely cool. Wish I had the cash :/

Hi,

I just jumped into this thread so I haven't read most of it, but good work! This is something that I gonna try as soon as I have a proper headphone setup. Would it be possible to build a JRiver plugin, and let JRiver work out the drivers. It seems there is a lot of channeling going on. The other thing that I was wondering, if it would be possible to create a convolution filter from your algorithm and use this inside JRiver. A paid plugin within JRiver would be my preferred option.

The biggest reason for me not going into headphones is the small musical display, and because I am a big Home Theatre fan with surround and everything, but your software seems just the thing that I am after.

I really really happy with Out of my head but prefer to use Foobar2000 and Kodi (formerly XMBC) over J River MC20

olegausany said:

I really really happy with Out of my head but prefer to use Foobar2000 and Kodi (formerly XMBC) over J River MC20

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I am not to happy about JRiver myself, but it is the only program for me which is able to do all that I want in a single program.

darinf said:

I tried it and got it working. Not sure if I can hear a difference other than the level seems lower for some reason.

So here's how I configured it:

Install ASIO Bridge.

JRiver Media Center 20 --> Direct Sound or WASAPI (OOYH) --> Set Out Of Your Head as your default audio playback device --> in Out Of Your Head select "HiFi Cable" as your output device --> Run ASIO Bridge, select JPLAY driver as the ASIO audio device --> In JPLAY Settings, select your DAC.

I think it works best if you select WASAPI (OOYH) and then make sure in the JRiver DSP settings, you set all audio to be converted to 48kHz.

-Darin

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You probably can use WASAPI but you will likely have to activate or reinstall the Windows Audio Management feature and it's services. I have been down that path and got Kernel Streaming working in Core mode, but I never went any further into activating WASAPI since I never used it.

primare knob said:

olegausany said:

I really really happy with Out of my head but prefer to use Foobar2000 and Kodi (formerly XMBC) over J River MC20

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I am not to happy about JRiver myself, but it is the only program for me which is able to do all that I want in a single program.

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Unfortunately not for me. Can't play SACD ISOs (they play fine with Foobar2000) plus I don't like the sound in wasapi mode, there are few others things but I can live with them

Who cares about the player, obviously a VST plugin etc would be best. For example everything this supports: http://convolver.sourceforge.net/ - use it anywhere you want.

Apologize if I am repeating somebody's question, but I am interested in getting the program for my new MAC MINI. If I get a 5.1 or 7.1 speaker package, can I use the same package to listen in stereo mode? Or do i need get an additional 2.0 speaker package. Thanks for your help.

You can without problems since output is stereo