anaximandros said:

Did you really pledge 238$ for femto clocks for your Pulse and your Geek Out?

The Femto clocks upgrade is only for the Pulse, Pulse S and Pulse X. It is not an upgrade for the Geek Out. You can upgrade the Geek Out to a Geek Out M (750mw) for 50$ or to a Geek Out EM (1000mw) for 100$

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uh oh, I sent them an email. Hopefully they will allow me to reduce my contribution toward the femto clock upgrade down to $119 USD

muinarc said:

Fine I'll bite. Just upgraded for the 3rd time, you GEEKS are a bad influence!


I have not requested anything in this campaign, as I feel like I am getting everything I would need and much, much more. .....but, looking at the totals and the time left, I am left wondering if we'll get the $1M goal.

That leads me to my one desire out of the campaign at this point. I would really like to have the Pulse bought by all of these backers reflect that we put our faith in this project, and by that I mean I wish the first run of the (so far 700+ by my unscientific count at the indiegogo site) pulses ordered had something that really did make them a limited edition. Maybe something like a gold volume knob, a special serial number on the case, etc... it wouldn't have to be another internal upgrade like the current stretch goal.

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I think they are doing some sort of badge for the femto version/Pulse X/Pulse S
You might bring up a serial number to them again, I know they talked about that with the GeekOut Kickstarter campaign but I am unsure where it was left.

7 days left, gonna have to do a bit over 15k a day to make it to the 1 million mark.
 
wonder if they have any more surprises for us to help the campaign move faster. heh.

fraggler said:

  Was covered earlier in the thread and in depth on the LHlabs forums.  Basically, super duper precise clock for the DAC, theoretically minimizing the impact of jitter.

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Big emphasis on theoretical. The stock clocks are already high spec, I see no benefit to going to a femto clock for audio.
I am sure lots of people will disagree

I always like spending big money on theoretical improvements

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You guys, hahaha. So funny, yet so true.

A higher signal-noise ratio and lower noise floor are good and all, but can people actually hear that difference?

Exactly, if money was no issue I would go for it, but I think the whole idea of a value device gets thrown out the window when you start adding in all these incremental improvements.

If it is any comfort, every time there has been a community-led project such as this one people have gone overkill. I started something similar back in 2009 to encourage a manufacturer to make something for around $200 to replace an un-reliable $99 product people were buying and upgrading like crazy. By the time we finished it was around $350 and had everything and the kitchen sink built-in, except balanced outputs. 
 
A more recent example is the Centrance M8. Notice that it too has everything and the kitchen sink built in and is available in no less than 8 different combinations with balanced outputs. 
 
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About "femto clocks": Since digital data is based on taking samples of audio at precise times and and a DA chip has to receive those digital samples with precise timing, a clock chip is used that can provide timing for the signal. Imperfect timing will result in a change in the frequency of the analogue output. The more accurate the clock (and design of the circuit) the more accurate the analogue output. 
 
Of course this is a gross over-simplification and how good is "worth it" is a complex argument and, I think, only worth pondering on a DAC-by-DAC basis. I'd say if Larry reckons he can get a significant improvement in the sound quality from the upgrade in his design, then it would be worth it.  I'll take him at his word on that, because he stakes his, and his company's reputation and livelihood on everything he says. 

anyone getting the LPS?

hydesg said:

  anyone getting the LPS?

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I broke down and bought the Geek Blue + Geek LPS bundle - and then upgraded the LPS to an LPS4. Definitely pricey, but as I'm somewhat OCD, I'll pay the premium to have some nice matching gear. The Geek Blue is particulary overpriced in my mind, but at least buying it as part of the bundle reduces the sticker shock.
 
I'm in for just over $1300 of gear and international shipping....
 
Geek Pulse fX^e + Geek Blue + LPS4
 
fX^e = Pulse X balanced with femto clock and $1m upgrade perk (e for 'enhanced')
 
I'm obviously taking a small chance that they won't deliver, but given their history with the DaVinci, I'm feeling fairly comfortable.
 
Dale

hydesg said:

  anyone getting the LPS?

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I am not. I hope to some day build one as a little project. I'm in for the Geek Pulse fX^e (to use the notation of AgentXXL). I'm wary of the ability to hear any difference with the improvements, but I'm a sucker for 'nicer' things.

For those who don't want to back will be there other units available at MSRP?

paradoxper said:

  For those who don't want to back will be there other units available at MSRP?

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Indeed there will - but probably not until the June-July 2014 time frame. And MSRP will be on average $200 more than if you contribute during the campaign. You'll be able to pre-order from the Geek Stop store on the lhlabs.com website, after the campaign ends.
 
Dale

agentxxl said:

   
Indeed there will - but probably not until the June-July 2014 time frame. And MSRP will be on average $200 more than if you contribute during the campaign. You'll be able to pre-order from the Geek Stop store on the lhlabs.com website, after the campaign ends.
 
Dale

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Thanks.

No linear power supply for me either. I've got no more money to spend on audio gear, but at least I hope the enhanced Pulse X and Out will keep my wallet happy in the long run. I mainly bought the Pulse for DSD playback since the Objective DAC can't play those files, and the Geek Out so I have a convenient portable DAC/amp combo that I can carry around and whip it out whenever I use my laptop.