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Dec 30, 2015 at 3:24 AM Post #20,821 of 35,472
reylaw said:
Cr0wnest are you talking about the **** UE? I HAVE THEM AND IT WAS LOVE AT FIRST HEAR. They are using beryllium drivers just like the mi pistons. Now I can understand the hype about the pistons. The sound is so powerful but effortless at the same time. You can feel the rumbles and air and it can reach the top end without any hint of distortion. I've used the stock cable once and changed to silver upgrade cable. Silver cable is clearer and worth the upgrade for me. Now I've received my paiaudio mr3 and I'm having a little problem liking them more than the **** UE. They cost 5-6 times more than the UE! I tried the silver cable with the mr3 and it also improved the sound for me. I'll will burn them more and see if the sound improves. I've had the UE for a week and the MR3 just yesterday :)
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Pistons were extremely V-shaped to my ears. How is the balance of the ****?
 
Dec 30, 2015 at 3:37 AM Post #20,822 of 35,472
1clearhead said:
Though the simularities on the sound signature are closer to that of the GR07. It has a better presentation and wider soundstage that generates in greater placement of instruments, and very efficient and louder.....WAY LOUDER. Can be driven very easily!
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From memory, the GR06 was louder than the GR07 by a fair bit.



This shows the Cl100 next to the GR07. I'd honestly guess it's just a repackaged GR06.

Do you find the signature more mid forward?
 
Dec 30, 2015 at 4:16 AM Post #20,823 of 35,472
nuckinfutz said:
From memory, the GR06 was louder than the GR07 by a fair bit.



This shows the Cl100 next to the GR07. I'd honestly guess it's just a repackaged GR06.

Do you find the signature more mid forward?
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No. Definitely, when I compared them to the GR06 the CL100 were still louder by several db's the signature is less forward and more detailed as the GR07. These are just blowing me away from what I would had hoped the GR07 should have sounded. It really reveals a better and detailed soundstage when placed head to head against both. I just love the efficiency of it all.
 
CL100 110db
 
GR06  108db
 
GR07  105db
 
I liked my iriver icp-at500 over the GR07, but the CL100 might edge out the at500's. Only time will tell....still burning.
 
Dec 30, 2015 at 5:31 AM Post #20,824 of 35,472
cr0wnest said:
Thats good to know. I was worried they might turn out to be similar to the SE215, how does the **** UE compare to that?
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I never tried the se215 :frowning2:

pastapipo said:
Pistons were extremely V-shaped to my ears. How is the balance of the ****?
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I've never heard any pistons, but they both use beryllium drivers so I assumed they may share similar characteristics. I'm currently using the **** with stock cable and I don't feel that the mids are recessed at all. At my normal listening level the bass is a little emphasized but it is very clear and separate from the mids and treble. Currently listening to them at very low volume and the vocals are still very clear and audible.I'm not a big fan of v-shaped iem's either.
 
Dec 30, 2015 at 7:07 AM Post #20,825 of 35,472
1clearhead said:
 
No. Definitely, when I compared them to the GR06 the CL100 were still louder by several db's the signature is less forward and more detailed as the GR07. These are just blowing me away from what I would had hoped the GR07 should have sounded. It really reveals a better and detailed soundstage when placed head to head against both. I just love the efficiency of it all.
 
CL100 110db
 
GR06  108db
 
GR07  105db
 
I liked my iriver icp-at500 over the GR07, but the CL100 might edge out the at500's. Only time will tell....still burning.
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GR06 has the same pricing as the CL100 ... Hmm, a bit too coincidental?
 
Dec 30, 2015 at 7:20 AM Post #20,826 of 35,472
Anyone tried
 
http://id.aliexpress.com/item/FX-AUDIO-DAC-X3-Fiber-Coaxial-USB-Decoder-24BIT-192Khz-USB-DAC-Headphone-192khz-Decoder-audio/32500399802.html
 
or
 
http://id.aliexpress.com/item/TOP-PCM5102-XMOS-U8-USB-DAC-T-Music-Hifi-Mini-DAC-Sound-Card-384K-32bit-with/32556844041.html
 
Are they good?
Or are there any better alternative?
 
Dec 30, 2015 at 7:56 AM Post #20,827 of 35,472
burnttoast12 said:
  Anyone tried
 
http://id.aliexpress.com/item/FX-AUDIO-DAC-X3-Fiber-Coaxial-USB-Decoder-24BIT-192Khz-USB-DAC-Headphone-192khz-Decoder-audio/32500399802.html
 
or
 
http://id.aliexpress.com/item/TOP-PCM5102-XMOS-U8-USB-DAC-T-Music-Hifi-Mini-DAC-Sound-Card-384K-32bit-with/32556844041.html
 
Are they good?
Or are there any better alternative?
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http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Wholesale-HiFi-AK4490-XMOS-USB-DAC-decoder-Support-192K-24Bit-with-headphone-output-power-supply/32571939299.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_1,searchweb201644_3_79_78_77_82_80_62_81,searchweb201560_5
 
You might want to check out this one instead. AK4490 is used in almost every other popular DAC (Grace design, massdrop etc etc)
 
Dec 30, 2015 at 7:57 AM Post #20,828 of 35,472
reylaw said:
I've never heard any pistons, but they both use beryllium drivers so I assumed they may share similar characteristics. I'm currently using the **** with stock cable and I don't feel that the mids are recessed at all. At my normal listening level the bass is a little emphasized but it is very clear and separate from the mids and treble. Currently listening to them at very low volume and the vocals are still very clear and audible.I'm not a big fan of v-shaped iem's either.
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I am really intrigued by the **** since I always enjoy forward mids! Do you feel that the soundstage is wide enough or recessed? Are they suitable for Classic/Hard/Alternative Rock? Also I've seen that a seller on Aliexpress has 2 different versions of "stock" cables. I don't know if it's worth to buy them with stock at all or go straight to the upgraded cable. Would a 4 core silver cable do justice? The price is almost the same as the ****.
 
Dec 30, 2015 at 8:25 AM Post #20,829 of 35,472
Regarding the **** UE:
To my ears they don't sound similar to the Piston 2.0 at all. The UE is much more balanced and offers better quality sound across the board. Only thing better on the Piston is bass quantity.

Compared to the SE215 the UE has much less mid-bass and about the same amount of subbass. They're much more clean and airy sounding as well.

Needless to say I prefer the **** UE over both by quite some margin.

Regarding the discussion about the CL100:

The shell/housing on the GR07 is significantly larger than that on the GR06 so it should be quite easy to determine which (if any) of the housings it uses.
 
Dec 30, 2015 at 9:31 AM Post #20,830 of 35,472
peter123 said:
Regarding the **** UE:
To my ears they don't sound similar to the Piston 2.0 at all. The UE is much more balanced and offers better quality sound across the board. Only thing better on the Piston is bass quantity.

Compared to the SE215 the UE has much less mid-bass and about the same amount of subbass. They're much more clean and airy sounding as well.

Needless to say I prefer the **** UE over both by quite some margin.

Regarding the discussion about the CL100:

The shell/housing on the GR07 is significantly larger than that on the GR06 so it should be quite easy to determine which (if any) of the housings it uses.
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Again, the housing is one thing, but the sound signature betters both the gr06 and gr07. I'm still at a disbelief on how they're even edging-out the at500. I'll be burning them in all night and will give more input, tomorrow. .....these are seriously surreal for the price.
 
Dec 30, 2015 at 9:38 AM Post #20,831 of 35,472
1clearhead said:
Again, the housing is one thing, but the sound signature betters both the gr06 and gr07. I'm still at a disbelief on how they're even edging-out the at500. I'll be burning them in all night and will give more input, tomorrow. .....these are seriously surreal for the price.
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Yes I agree, even if the housings are the same everything else may differ...

My post was more in the light of the ones talking about it using the same housings as the GR06 or GR07 but as already mentioned that's only the housings and not necessarily anything more.
 
Dec 30, 2015 at 10:06 AM Post #20,832 of 35,472
D***m......I got the CL100 from the shopping website JD.COM (in China) and I cannot find any other site that sells them yet. I was hoping to provide more websites, but the CL100 are so darn new, they were just recently released.
 
Once I see them in any other shopping website.....I'll shoot a link to everyone.
 
Dec 30, 2015 at 10:11 AM Post #20,833 of 35,472
1clearhead said:
  D***m......I got the CL100 from the shopping website JD.COM (in China) and I cannot find any other site that sells them yet. I was hoping to provide more websites, but the CL100 are so darn new, they were just recently released.
 
Once I see them in any other shopping website.....I'll shoot a link to everyone.
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Please do Clearhead.
 
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Dec 30, 2015 at 10:22 AM Post #20,835 of 35,472
burnttoast12 said:
  Anyone tried
 
http://id.aliexpress.com/item/FX-AUDIO-DAC-X3-Fiber-Coaxial-USB-Decoder-24BIT-192Khz-USB-DAC-Headphone-192khz-Decoder-audio/32500399802.html
 
or
 
http://id.aliexpress.com/item/TOP-PCM5102-XMOS-U8-USB-DAC-T-Music-Hifi-Mini-DAC-Sound-Card-384K-32bit-with/32556844041.html
 
Are they good?
Or are there any better alternative?
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If you want cheap DAC than you can buy this one:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/SA9027-ES9023-24BIT-96KHZ-Asynchronous-USB-DAC-HIFI-Sound-Decoder-with-Case/32396623155.html
 
Very nice clear sound (Sabre on board), no need additional power supply. You can read about it on diyaudio:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digital-line-level/274079-another-cheap-dac-sa9027-es9023-24bit-96khz-asynchronous-usb-dac.html
 
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