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Poll Results: Which one would you order??

 
  • 74% (284)
    Carbo Tenore
  • 25% (99)
    Carbo Basso
383 Total Votes  
post #1636 of 5992
Also mochill, I'll definitely check out ectoplazm. Love me some electronic.
post #1637 of 5992
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Just got my second Tenore in from Amazon and it's much bassier than my other pair that I still have. A/b'ing back and forth makes it very obvious that there's a difference.

I've returned one Tenore already, and that one sounded like this one, more bass and less mid forward. Much more smooth and warm overall, even lacking some treble emphasis. Sucks but I have to return this one as well.

It makes me wonder if we're all hearing the same thing. So far I'm one for three on actual good pairs of this iem.

Edit: Yes it's very obvious. One pair is reference with very Ety like mids. The other has warmer mids and maybe 3-4 dB more bass that bleeds into the mids. Crazy.
Edited by gnarlsagan - 5/19/14 at 1:05pm
post #1638 of 5992
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Originally Posted by gnarlsagan View Post

TRIPLE POST

Just got my second Tenore in from Amazon and it's much bassier than my other pair that I still have. A/b'ing back and forth makes it very obvious that there's a difference.

I've returned one Tenore already, and that one sounded like this one, more bass and less mid forward. Much more smooth and warm overall, even lacking some treble emphasis. Sucks but I have to return this one as well.

It makes me wonder if we're all hearing the same thing. So far I'm one for three on actual good pairs of this iem.

Edit: Yes it's very obvious. One pair is reference with very Ety like mids. The other has warmer mids and maybe 3-4 dB more bass that bleeds into the mids. Crazy.

 

That doesn't sound very promising! :(

post #1639 of 5992
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

That doesn't sound very promising! frown.gif

No it's quite disheartening. All I can say is that to be sure you have a reference pair of Tenores, the mids should sound very close to ER4S mids in emphasis, tonality and FR. Otherwise they won't sound like the graph posted here earlier. Blargh... At least it was a pair on Amazon prime, so the return shouldn't be too difficult. Anyone want to do me a favor and sell me a good pair? Lol

In other news I'd thought I'd share some pics. This is how you use tips that are too big for the Tenore. I highly recommend getting a pair of Sennheiser biflanges.

Take a piece from the stem of a tip you're not using and put it on like this:


Then put the desired tip on over that.


Sexy!


Look at that wide open bore...
post #1640 of 5992
I know luisdent and Shotgunshane can check their multiples

Hmm take it back one pair may be a bit bassier for me
Edited by Inks - 5/19/14 at 1:52pm
post #1641 of 5992
Cover the vents on both and see if there is still a difference, could be a vent thing
post #1642 of 5992
Hmm , might try the vent thing 😅
post #1643 of 5992
Just noticed the housing is lightly magnetic, hmm the magnet by the coil is probably that strong
post #1644 of 5992
Magnetic variance? Covering the vents usually decreases bass, but that doesn't seem to be what's happening here. My pair with zero driver flex has less bass.
Edited by gnarlsagan - 5/19/14 at 2:23pm
post #1645 of 5992
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Originally Posted by Idsynchrono_24 View Post

http://vimeo.com/m/39884322

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You so asked for that. You did say you were a belieber now ;) ;)

 

Regarding your bassiness, are you sure there is no break in or anything? I was sure my first pair was really bassy and you guys were on crack. Then after a bit they literally sound like the er4s with red filters. I mean, literally, plus better sub bass. But zero mid bleed or anything else. They drop my jaw every time i listen to them. I'll compare all COUGH four COUGH of my sets when they arrive, but it might be a week or two at least until then.

 

On another note, I'm having a problem (oh god, this better not turn into a problem with the tenores thread!). At first the tips for me sounded great, sealed, tight, beautiful. Now that they have softened a bit they seal too much. I can get the same sound every time with a little work, but I'm finding I have to use the large tips, squeeze them in and then move them around until the air pressurizes a bit, and then a few minutes or so and they finish pressurizing all the way.

 

They're still not deep in my ears, more average depth, but they aren't that comfortable. However, the med tips seem harder to get a good seal with, and they cause a bit of excess brightness, because they aren't sealed 100%. Again, I can still consistently get the great sound, but it is taking more effort and discomfort. Is this why you are using the biflange gnarl? Do you have a link to those?

 

I found the sonys actually trim the highest treble a bit. I compared them closely, and the opening of the tip isn't a large. I've seen this before with iems, the smaller the opening, sometimes causes treble cutoff... So those aren't happening... Any recommendations?


Edited by luisdent - 5/19/14 at 2:52pm
post #1646 of 5992

^

ALL YOU BASS SISSYS SELL ME ALL YOUR TENORES NOW!!! :basshead:

 

I'll give ya' $35 for those bass defects. :veryevil:

post #1647 of 5992
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post
 

^

ALL YOU BASS SISSYS SELL ME ALL YOUR TENORES NOW!!! :basshead:

 

I'll give ya' $35 for those bass defects. :veryevil:

Hahaha. You basshead! ;) Go listen to that awesome recabled mh1 some guy made you. ;)

post #1648 of 5992
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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post
 

Hahaha. You basshead! ;) Go listen to that awesome recabled mh1 some guy made you. ;)

^

I CAN'T CUZ SOME NOOB Fffed DEM UP BY MESSIN" WITH THEIR BASS VENTS. : P

post #1649 of 5992
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post
 
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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post
 

Hahaha. You basshead! ;) Go listen to that awesome recabled mh1 some guy made you. ;)

^

I CAN'T CUZ SOME NOOB Fffed DEM UP BY MESSIN" WITH THEIR BASS VENTS. : P

 

The copper ones! The copper ones! ;) And making an iem more reference isn't usually considered fffing them up! ;) hahahaha  I was trying to get you into a new world of high quality audio ;)

post #1650 of 5992
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Originally Posted by luisdent View Post
 

 

You so asked for that. You did say you were a belieber now ;) ;)

 

Regarding your bassiness, are you sure there is no break in or anything? I was sure my first pair was really bassy and you guys were on crack. Then after a bit they literally sound like the er4s with red filters. I mean, literally, plus better sub bass. But zero mid bleed or anything else. They drop my jaw every time i listen to them. I'll compare all COUGH four COUGH of my sets when they arrive, but it might be a week or two at least until then.

 

On another note, I'm having a problem (oh god, this better not turn into a problem with the tenores thread!). At first the tips for me sounded great, sealed, tight, beautiful. Now that they have softened a bit they seal too much. I can get the same sound every time with a little work, but I'm finding I have to use the large tips, squeeze them in and then move them around until the air pressurizes a bit, and then a few minutes or so and they finish pressurizing all the way.

 

They're still not deep in my ears, more average depth, but they aren't that comfortable. However, the med tips seem harder to get a good seal with, and they cause a bit of excess brightness, because they aren't sealed 100%. Again, I can still consistently get the great sound, but it is taking more effort and discomfort. Is this why you are using the biflange gnarl? Do you have a link to those?

 

I found the sonys actually trim the highest treble a bit. I compared them closely, and the opening of the tip isn't a large. I've seen this before with iems, the smaller the opening, sometimes causes treble cutoff... So those aren't happening... Any recommendations?

 

Partly. I do find that the stock tips can tend to cause more pressure than the Senn biflanges I use. The material of the tips is extremely soft and pliable, more so than the stock tips, so instead of the tip forming a vacuum seal upon contact with the ear canal, it more just gently touches the ear canal and forms a seal in a much softer and more flexible way. I can move the tips around and position them at different angles in my ear without losing a seal because the material is just so thin and pliable. It could also be that I'm lucky that the large biflanges fit me perfectly. 

 

The Senn tips I use are from ebay


Edited by gnarlsagan - 5/19/14 at 3:26pm
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