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Best Smartphone for audiophile
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Jan 9, 2017 at 1:06 PM Post #6,262 of 7,916
Mobile phone speakers really are the lowest of lo-fi. For phone calls only. Any evaluation of sound quality using said transducer cannot be taken seriously.
 
Jan 9, 2017 at 5:31 PM Post #6,263 of 7,916
god-bluff said:
Mobile phone speakers really are the lowest of lo-fi. For phone calls only. Any evaluation of sound quality using said transducer cannot be taken seriously.
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Yes, and their optimized for listening at a distance of 30+ cm. I think most phones will fail the noise test when you listen with your ear against the transducer. Especially the louder ones.
 
Jan 9, 2017 at 8:29 PM Post #6,265 of 7,916
onitsuka said:
I have to suggest you go to sound science forum, especially this thread http://www.head-fi.org/t/570621/flac-vs-320-mp3/195

This topic has been beaten to death thousands times, and yet nobody could give proof or showed their ABX test to indicate their claims. None. Nada. Nothing. All they have is "I have quality rigs, and I'm able to". You're no different to those, hence I suggest you'll be more in necessary of visiting need audiologists so that you can retrieve their approval of your Golden Ears status.

FLACs are good for archiving. MP3s, 320 CBR and V0, are as good as FLACs for playing.
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onitsuka said:
This topic has been beaten to death thousands times, and yet nobody could give proof or showed their ABX test to indicate their claims. None. Nada. Nothing. All they have is "I have quality rigs, and I'm able to". You're no different to those, hence I suggest you'll be more in necessary of visiting need audiologists so that you can retrieve their approval of your Golden Ears status.

FLACs are good for archiving. MP3s, 320 CBR and V0, are as good as FLACs for playing.
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andrewski said:
Hilarious. I'm a pseudo audiophile at best. 16-bit wav is my minimum. All my non golden ear friends can tell the difference. Even out of a galaxy s5 speaker (not my phone, mine's m8). My favourite rig is a Fugoo xl. Just saying :blush:
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This demonstrates how flawed using technology can be for evaluating audio quality vs using your ears.  I don't intend to be disrespectful but if ABX test can't tell a difference between flac and mp3, that clearly demonstrates a problem with the technology. It's my strong opinion, that the human mind and hearing is much too complex for technology to measure accurately 100% with 0 error.  In fact, 0 error in science and statistics is unreal and not practical.
 
I always implement blind tests with friends who don't even know what a flac file is and they could easily tell the difference.
 
Honestly, I'm surprised flac vs mp3 is even debated so much here on Head-fi?....  I would expect that type of debate on a novice website..
 
Jan 9, 2017 at 10:35 PM Post #6,266 of 7,916
gosod said:
[COLOR=111111]Yes, I will be carefully to do it, how long you warmed dryer before opening the lid?[/COLOR]
[COLOR=111111]where do you suggest I buy original battery, I don't trust Ali.........[/COLOR]
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Don't mess about with non-original batteries. Kaboom...

I have seen with my own eyes a box of fake batteries having motorola labels stuck on them in a shop in China. Careful now.
 
Jan 10, 2017 at 12:01 AM Post #6,267 of 7,916
Not to be uncivil but purely anecdotal claims on hearing difference between lossy & lossless don't mean squat and are almost certainly confirmation bias.

Well designed ABX tests which tested everyone from laymen to musicians, engineers, reviewers found no evidence of being able to tell the difference:

http://www.mcelhearn.com/well-crafted-study-shows-listeners-cannot-distinguish-between-cd-quality-and-high-resolution-music-files/

You see the same thing with any niche hobby. Wine tasters claim they can taste the difference between cheap & expensive wine, turns out in well designed blind taste tests they can't.

EDIT - My mistake on the link, I was reading a couple of sources on this. However this study finds much the same result comparing CD to high bitrate MP3 for musicians and sound engineers.

https://www.academia.edu/441306/Subjective_Evaluation_of_MP3_Compression_for_Different_Musical_Genres
 
Jan 10, 2017 at 1:26 AM Post #6,268 of 7,916
Isnt that test between  16bit vs 24bit audio ?
 
it isnt between MP3 vs Flac ? or did i miss something?
 a test between 24/96 and 256Kbps AAC am sure all can pick the sounds. 
 
there is a theory of Psycho-acoustics, (Bose uses it amazingly well),  I dont know if i can pass a general statement that its lossy vs lossless
 
Also 2 things are important:
 
1) how we stored our music?
2) what we use as source ?
3) and what we using to listen to ?
 
If something is already downgraded (or not originally recorded) how could a difference be found ?
 
Jan 10, 2017 at 1:30 AM Post #6,269 of 7,916
Umm... Can we just move on to what topic is please....
 
Go argue in PM or other threads.
 
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