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post #1096 of 11322
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Originally Posted by bearFNF View Post

Not sure if I am understanding what you are referring to here but my HiSound Studio V 3rd anv supports FLAC.

I am not into the subject like you guys are, since I don't own HiSound device, but maybe he meant HiSound doesn't support 24/192 in any format except wav.

post #1097 of 11322

Yup, that's the case. I have thousands of 24/96 and 24/192 files in FLAC format and the HiSound Anny 3 won't play them. Only in WAV format.

 

It will play standard 16 bit FLAC files and make them sound very good however.
 


Edited by sashua - 5/22/13 at 10:56pm
post #1098 of 11322

Where can I pre-order in the US?

post #1099 of 11322
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Originally Posted by rsatmans View Post

Where can I pre-order in the US?
Currently, as previously stated, there is no preordering. Unless you can find a link, via Google search. We're all (im)patient(ly) waiting it's release,...wink.gif
post #1100 of 11322

Dear JamesFiiO,

 

I have some serious questions to you and to the FiiO engineering staff also.

Have to say I'm an international customer who has tried many of (Chinese by origin) portable players.

RockChip / BoxChip (AllWinner) CPU based. And even more.

Also once had a player by Ingenic Semiconductor CPU based, but can't remember how good was it.

And the Colorfly CK4 model Player also. Br--rrr-rr. evil_smiley.gif

My thoughts and expressions -

RockChip CPU based players are the best (by sound) and most reliable (by recovery feature provided) players have ever been made in China.

Have tried and I'm still using players RK2608 and RK2728 based and very happy about them.

Even something wrong is done by user, RockChip based players are easy to recover. Just by using your PC.

For BoxChip (AllWinner) CPU based players - they are also easy to be recovered. Just by using your PC.

Though.... BoxChip (AllWinner) CPU based players are not for music.... they sound terrible bad...

Don't know what CPU in Colorfly CK4 player is but the model (or the software?) is very unstable.

Bought a Colorfly CK4 player and was using it for some days and it died.... Good for nothing and around USD170 amount is spoilt ....

It can't be recovered by using PC. It is absolutely BRICK now.

As I saw that, some Chinese players can easily die on Media Library Update process!

This happens to any BoxChip (AllWinner) CPU based players. And that also happened to that useless Colorfly CK4 player I just lost my money for.

As for RockChip CPU based players that terrible thing don't happen to them. When Media Library Uptating is on the players don't die.

So, my general question to you is - will Fiio X3 also die on Media Library Updating process as this happens to some of (unlucky) Chinese players OR NOT?

 

post #1101 of 11322
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Originally Posted by Kistenev View Post

Dear JamesFiiO,

 

I have some serious questions to you and to the FiiO engineering staff also.

Have to say I'm an international customer who has tried many of (Chinese by origin) portable players.

RockChip / BoxChip (AllWinner) CPU based. And even more.

Also once had a player by Ingenic Semiconductor CPU based, but can't remember how good was it.

And the Colorfly CK4 model Player also. Br--rrr-rr. evil_smiley.gif

My thoughts and expressions -

RockChip CPU based players are the best (by sound) and most reliable (by recovery feature provided) players have ever been made in China.

Have tried and I'm still using players RK2608 and RK2728 based and very happy about them.

Even something wrong is done by user, RockChip based players are easy to recover. Just by using your PC.

For BoxChip (AllWinner) CPU based players - they are also easy to be recovered. Just by using your PC.

Though.... BoxChip (AllWinner) CPU based players are not for music.... they sound terrible bad...

Don't know what CPU in Colorfly CK4 player is but the model (or the software?) is very unstable.

Bought a Colorfly CK4 player and was using it for some days and it died.... Good for nothing and around USD170 amount is spoilt ....

It can't be recovered by using PC. It is absolutely BRICK now.

As I saw that, some Chinese players can easily die on Media Library Update process!

This happens to any BoxChip (AllWinner) CPU based players. And that also happened to that useless Colorfly CK4 player I just lost my money for.

As for RockChip CPU based players that terrible thing don't happen to them. When Media Library Uptating is on the players don't die.

So, my general question to you is - will Fiio X3 also die on Media Library Updating process as this happens to some of (unlucky) Chinese players OR NOT?

 

 

1, Rockchip does not open the SDK to small company so we can't fix some bugs.

 

2, Rockchip can't support 192k/24b but only 16bit, not to talk about the APE( High, fast model ) , ALAC, and some other format

 

3, We have not found any X3 become brick but of course, the quantity is not enough to make sure it will not happen, but we may be the only chinese company who has some many sales agent around the world.

 

    and you can easy to find a local dealer to handle the warranty service.

post #1102 of 11322
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Originally Posted by Kistenev View Post

Dear JamesFiiO,

*snip*

So, my general question to you is - will Fiio X3 also die on Media Library Updating process as this happens to some of (unlucky) Chinese players OR NOT?


Asking the CEO himself if his product will suck is....interesting :D

post #1103 of 11322

Can someone explain the "Last position of sound track" feature?  Does that mean when I return to a track, after playing a different track, it will remember my position, or is this simply a resume if the player is powered off in the middle of a song?

 

From list of Features:

Memory Play: Last song track or Last position of sound track

 

I'm wondering if the X3 will be usable for audiobooks.


Edited by nv88 - 5/24/13 at 6:54am
post #1104 of 11322
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Originally Posted by autoexec View Post

Just wondering how HiSound was able to pull off that 80 hrs battery life on their Studio V 3rd Anniv. Maybe they don't have that much powerful amp like X3 has?

 

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Originally Posted by kob12 View Post


good question im too wondering about that. 8x times better battery life is something spectacular for a high end dap with amp.

 

My Studio V (not anniversary edition) NEVER EVER REACHED 80 hours... not even close! 25 hours probably at most. I've heard from others that they have reached 40+ hours usage but I guess it would depend on their usage pattern. My microSD card had 45+GB of music in a combination of MP3s, WAVs, FLACs and I always SHUFFLED through every major folder. (Don't know if that causes more battery strain/usage... probably). Also, sound wasn't the best I've heard either. It DEFINITELY was missing a bit of low-end (sub bass region) and was a bit "bright". I used it with my Ultrasone Signature Pros, Denon D600s (at the time), MrSpeakers Mad Dogs. Also, amp section didn't output enough for the Mad Dogs! I had to pair the Studio with my Leckerton UHA6S-MKII...

 

The Studio disappointed me so much...

Firmware SUCKED ARSE too. A bunch of hang-ups (even after cleaning up and re-installing firmware), it didn't register a lot of my mp3s (even though I "fixed" the mp3 tags and removed the images), it took like 10+ minutes every morning to start-up because somehow it always "refreshes" the Library and well, having 45+GB/10,000+ files didn't help matters much).

 

I got rid of it.

 

What am I using right now?

A "lowly" Cowon C2!!!

Reads my 64gb card well, start-up only takes 1 minute (when reading library), battery life is 30+ hours using it the same way I TRIED to use the Studio (i.e. Shuffling through EVERYTHING), sound quality is not as detailed but quite frankly I DON'T MISS IT and their equalizer and effects are not bad at all, etc. I was actually looking into the updated Cowon D20 with the "rated" 90 hours battery life (LOL!) since it's similar to the C2 (it uses the same UI even... which sucks, but it's not bad once you get used to it).

 

The only thing that's interesting to me about the X3 is the sound quality (I have never tried one of their amps), build, and physical buttons... but it seems that battery life will suck so... (same for the DX50 and most of the chinese players :( ).

 

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Originally Posted by zilch0md View Post

Hi kob12,


It looks as if we will have to wait for a comparison between the X3 and Studio V 3rd Anniversary. It's a bit of an unfair comparison, but I'm interested, too.

Mike

 

I don't doubt that the X3 will at least match sound quality and be a better experience on the whole (i.e. counting ease of use, less hang ups, etc. etc.) at a better price.

post #1105 of 11322

http://www.headfonia.com/2013-spring-tokyo-headphone-festival-impressions/7/

 

Fiio X3

All these high end players and instead I keep on thinking about the Fiio X3 after the festival was over. It’s a great little device that should be a very popular player in the lower price range that it’s playing at. It’s relatively small, about Fiio E07K/E17 size, and while the UI was a bit laggy when I tried it, I extremely enjoyed the sound out of it. It’s very close to the sound of the E07K which is the latest DAC from Fiio. Smooth dark tonality with a clean black background, good instrument separation and overall unoffensive treble and good bass. It doesn’t try too hard to sound impressive with technicalities, but it has just enough to tackle the majority of recordings out there. The result is an enjoyable clean laid back sound with a semi-dark tonality and good bass. While it doesn’t have the technicalities to challenge the AK100-120 and everything else that’s priced above its price, what’s important is that like the budget-minded E07K, I find Fiio’s tuning in the X3 to be extremely enjoyable just like its USB DACs.

post #1106 of 11322

X3 is already creating miracles compared to its price, I can't even imagine how X5 will be awesome. FiiO knows what they are doing. I like it. Kudos to James and all FiiO.


Edited by AmberOzL - 5/24/13 at 9:06am
post #1107 of 11322
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Originally Posted by nv88 View Post

Can someone explain the "Last position of sound track" feature?  Does that mean when I return to a track, after playing a different track, it will remember my position, or is this simply a resume if the player is powered off in the middle of a song?

 

From list of Features:

Memory Play: Last song track or Last position of sound track

 

I'm wondering if the X3 will be usable for audiobooks.

 

'Position' means it will resume back to the last position before shutting down. Say you shut it down at 1mins 23 seconds of a 5 minutes song, and it will resume (or pause) back to that position at next start up. 'Track' means it will go back to that track, but start at the beginning of the track.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by turokrocks View Post

http://www.headfonia.com/2013-spring-tokyo-headphone-festival-impressions/7/

 

Fiio X3

All these high end players and instead I keep on thinking about the Fiio X3 after the festival was over. It’s a great little device that should be a very popular player in the lower price range that it’s playing at. It’s relatively small, about Fiio E07K/E17 size, and while the UI was a bit laggy when I tried it, I extremely enjoyed the sound out of it. It’s very close to the sound of the E07K which is the latest DAC from Fiio. Smooth dark tonality with a clean black background, good instrument separation and overall unoffensive treble and good bass. It doesn’t try too hard to sound impressive with technicalities, but it has just enough to tackle the majority of recordings out there. The result is an enjoyable clean laid back sound with a semi-dark tonality and good bass. While it doesn’t have the technicalities to challenge the AK100-120 and everything else that’s priced above its price, what’s important is that like the budget-minded E07K, I find Fiio’s tuning in the X3 to be extremely enjoyable just like its USB DACs.

 

I beg to differ.

 

Having listen to AK100, the only impression I have is it sacrifices all its power for clarity. At most, it is only half a good DAP. Well, an overpriced half a good DAP at that. I think anyone will be impressed by AK100 clarity at first, but the flaw in its hardware is obvious once you have the time to realize it doesn't offer any control or authority when driving a headphone. Even a Clip+ can do a better job than AK100 on that.


Edited by ClieOS - 5/24/13 at 9:02am
post #1108 of 11322
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Originally Posted by JamesFiiO View Post

 

1, Rockchip does not open the SDK to small company so we can't fix some bugs.

 

2, Rockchip can't support 192k/24b but only 16bit, not to talk about the APE( High, fast model ) , ALAC, and some other format

 

3, We have not found any X3 become brick but of course, the quantity is not enough to make sure it will not happen, but we may be the only chinese company who has some many sales agent around the world.

 

    and you can easy to find a local dealer to handle the warranty service.

 

JamesFiiO, I didn't mean RockChip CPU based devices are ideal. But I mean they are most stable firmware and easy to recover players if they are ocassionaly bricked.

Recover with just your PC.

What I'm afraid (say I purchase a Fiio X3) is that I know I can't ever recover Fiio X3 with just using a PC suite. Would I like to have another useless brick at home? No, I wouldn't.

Would never emagine I would purchase around USD200 player and then looking for sales agents and warranty and...

I'm still having that bricked Colorfly CK4 player that was also promised to work no problem by a Chinese manufacturer. And that player also has no feature to be recovered.

Like your player.

It looks you (as well as ColorFly) sell players we customers have bricked one day and have a headache with....

post #1109 of 11322
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Originally Posted by Kistenev View Post

JamesFiiO, I didn't mean RockChip CPU based devices are ideal. But I mean they are most stable firmware and easy to recover players if they are ocassionaly bricked.

Recover with just your PC.

What I'm afraid (say I purchase a Fiio X3) is that I know I can't ever recover Fiio X3 with just using a PC suite. Would I like to have another useless brick at home? No, I wouldn't.

Would never emagine I would purchase around USD200 player and then looking for sales agents and warranty and...

I'm still having that bricked Colorfly CK4 player that was also promised to work no problem by a Chinese manufacturer. And that player also has no feature to be recovered.

Like your player.

It looks you (as well as ColorFly) sell players we customers have bricked one day and have a headache with....

Just send it back to official FiiO dealer, where you would buy it and they will do their best since there is a warranty on the product. I don't understand what is the problem with this method, it is the easiest way if you ask me.

post #1110 of 11322
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Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post

Having listen to AK100, the only impression I have is it sacrifices all its power for clarity. At most, it is only half a good DAP. Well, an overpriced half a good DAP at that. I think anyone will be impressed by AK100 clarity at first, but the flaw in its hardware is obvious once you have the time to realize it doesn't offer any control or authority when driving a headphone. Even a Clip+ can do a better job than AK100 on that.

 

That is the best thing I've read all week. biggrin.gif

 

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kistenev View Post

JamesFiiO, I didn't mean RockChip CPU based devices are ideal. But I mean they are most stable firmware and easy to recover players if they are ocassionaly bricked.

Recover with just your PC.

What I'm afraid (say I purchase a Fiio X3) is that I know I can't ever recover Fiio X3 with just using a PC suite. Would I like to have another useless brick at home? No, I wouldn't.

Would never emagine I would purchase around USD200 player and then looking for sales agents and warranty and...

I'm still having that bricked Colorfly CK4 player that was also promised to work no problem by a Chinese manufacturer. And that player also has no feature to be recovered.

Like your player.

It looks you (as well as ColorFly) sell players we customers have bricked one day and have a headache with....

 

I don't understand why you think anyone will brick an X3. Just because you had a Colorfly player fail does not mean a FiiO player will fail. 

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