The Fiio X3 Thread.
May 19, 2013 at 11:48 AM Post #1,051 of 17,484
Will the external portable amp. such as Fiio E11 or E12 further improve the sound quality (sound stage & separation) in X3 when using Line Out (LO)?


Short answer: no.

Long answer: the AMP qualities of the X3 are on par/better than the E12, so it won't improve it, and from what i've read in this thread the X3 can power some of the more needy headphones.


I got my info mixed up, sorry.
 
May 19, 2013 at 12:11 PM Post #1,052 of 17,484
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Short answer: no.

Long answer: the AMP qualities of the X3 are on par/better than the E12, so it won't improve it, and from what i've read in this thread the X3 can power some of the more needy headphones.

From your comment, the portable amps which are more powerful (more efficient) than E12 might unleash the real potential of X3?
For example those amps such as The National, ALO Audio Rx Mk2 or  Black Bird" SR-71A.
 
May 19, 2013 at 1:00 PM Post #1,054 of 17,484
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Where Can I buy it , Is it out ?

A few hundred will be released next month to various countries
 
 
 
X3 will launch market in June in some countries

The second batch of X3 will be available in June , includes:
1, China, total 1,000pcs.
2, Korea, total 300pcs
3, Hong Kong, Total 100pcs
4, Taiwan, Total 100pcs
5, U.S, Total 300pcs

We will produce enough quantity in July for the whole world.

Full worldwide release will be in July.
 
If you are in one of those 5 listed countries, you may have a chance of buying one.
 
Go to FiiOs Where to buy page on their site. And find your region/nations FiiO authorized dealer. And check their websites throughout June to see if you can buy one.
 
May 19, 2013 at 1:05 PM Post #1,055 of 17,484
From your comment, the portable amps which are more powerful (more efficient) than E12 might unleash the real potential of X3?
For example those amps such as The National, ALO Audio Rx Mk2 or  Black Bird" SR-71A.


If you have headphones which can't be driven by the E12, yes, a better amp will work. Personally i don't think you really will be needing a portable amp for this DAP.
 
May 19, 2013 at 1:09 PM Post #1,056 of 17,484
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Short answer: no.

Long answer: the AMP qualities of the X3 are on par/better than the E12, so it won't improve it, and from what i've read in this thread the X3 can power some of the more needy headphones.

i thought the x3 had the same amp setup as the e17.  
 
May 19, 2013 at 1:11 PM Post #1,057 of 17,484
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i thought the x3 had the same amp setup as the e17.  

It does. But implementation matters
 
 
 
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 Does X3 needs amping? To put it short and sweet, no…well, mostly. There is very little to gain (and even positively lose) in sound quality by amping the X3. Unless we are talking the top of the line (ToTL) portable amps here, say O2, JDS Labs C5, FiiO own E12, UHA-4, etc , otherwise the benefit of amping is simply not there. The internal amp of X3 can rival the SQ of just about any mid to upper-mid range portable amp. The basic design of X3’s DAC and amp section come from E17 Alpen. But FiiO pumps the voltage up a little more on the X3 so the overall SQ is actually better than E17, most noticeably in overall dynamic and cleanness of the sound, given that X3 doesn’t have to deal with any possibility of USB noise, jitters, or ground loop. But even with the ToTL portable amps, the increase of SQ just isn’t night and day. So whether it is worth carrying another piece of gear is really a question of whether you will find the improvement substantial enough in your own rig. In my own opinion, X3 is already an excellent all-in-one solution.
 

 
May 19, 2013 at 1:59 PM Post #1,059 of 17,484
It does, not sure what kind of misinformation CH23 has gotten. The E12 is technically superior amp to the E17 thus X3, so connecting them would produce at the very least more power. 


I must apologise, you are correct. it's that sort of day :xf_eek:

-CH23
 
May 19, 2013 at 2:00 PM Post #1,060 of 17,484
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I must apologise, you are correct. it's that sort of day
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-CH23

 
No problem, everyone has them. 
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May 19, 2013 at 3:37 PM Post #1,062 of 17,484
I need advice from you guys , I'd like to buy studio-v 3rd anv but i dont know if its worth waiting for x3 and refuse from studio-v 3rd anv .. could you tell me is studio-v superior to fiio x3 ??
 

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