The (new) HD800 Impressions Thread
Feb 21, 2014 at 6:36 AM Post #8,417 of 28,992
Hey guys, can you all give me your opinion here. Would it be better for me to get more tubes for now, or get myself the Matrix M-Stage? (be it the HPA-1 or HPA-2).
 
Feb 21, 2014 at 6:41 AM Post #8,418 of 28,992
Changing tubes makes good sense and it does make an obvious change when done. But you still have the limitations of the amp.and the tube sound even if just a little.
So a new amp makes sense but a Ss amp will give you the biggest. Change in sound. What amp are you currently using ?
Al
 
Feb 21, 2014 at 6:42 AM Post #8,419 of 28,992
Changing tubes makes good sense and it does make an obvious change when done. But you still have the limitations of the amp.and the tube sound even if just a little.
So a new amp makes sense but a Ss amp will give you the biggest. Change in sound. What amp are you currently using ?
Al

 
WA3 with Tung Sol 7236 and Tesla 7DJ8 here mate
 
Feb 21, 2014 at 6:50 AM Post #8,420 of 28,992
Ok it's a woo audio. Pm frank I. He can tell you what to expect with what tubes.
Keep this in mind people expect changes in amps or tubes to make the change they are looking for. In fact the dac should be the first to be done. As if the dac has the sound you want then the amps can. A good amp has little to no sound. Hence the term wire with gain.
Al
 
Feb 21, 2014 at 7:54 AM Post #8,422 of 28,992
  Listening to classical music on the HD800 is worth $1500. Not hearing the wife nag, priceless!

 
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Feb 21, 2014 at 8:14 AM Post #8,423 of 28,992
I see some HD800's being sold by some wives with their noses out of joint.
 
Must check the For Sale ads for some cheap bargains coming up.
 
Feb 21, 2014 at 10:13 AM Post #8,424 of 28,992
  Listening to classical music on the HD800 is worth $1500. Not hearing the wife nag, priceless!

 
You need a can that can isolate really good then (a wife's nagging voice is rather powerful).  Let me suggest the T5p or the Alpha Dogs -- you will never hear your wife again (unless she rips the cans from your head in a rage).
 
Feb 21, 2014 at 10:14 AM Post #8,425 of 28,992
Feb 21, 2014 at 12:05 PM Post #8,427 of 28,992
If we're talking classical, I'd say the T5p, actually.
 
Feb 21, 2014 at 12:07 PM Post #8,428 of 28,992
You need a can that can isolate really good then (a wife's nagging voice is rather powerful).  Let me suggest the T5p or the Alpha Dogs -- you will never hear your wife again (unless she rips the cans from your head in a rage).

There's always Beats. Sorry couldn't help but think of that commercial. Guess marketing does work. I can just picture your wife screaming at you and then you put on those noise canceling Beats in front of her. "Well you can tell everybody..." :D
 
Feb 21, 2014 at 1:02 PM Post #8,429 of 28,992
  Hey guys, can you all give me your opinion here. Would it be better for me to get more tubes for now, or get myself the Matrix M-Stage? (be it the HPA-1 or HPA-2).

 
What kind of change in the sound are you looking for?  I had quite a few tubes for my WA3 back in the day, including some very nice amperex 7308 pq's and 6922 pq's.  They do definitely impact the sonics (mostly FR), as do various 6as7's, but no tube combo is going to make the WA3 significantly more detailed and dynamic than what you're presently hearing.  It is a great amp for hd650's but a bit too slow, tubey, laid back and lacking in resolution to really show off everything your hd800's can do.  (As I have noted a time or two before in this thread, I found my bh crack to be far better with hd800's than my WA3, and many in the crack thread have echoed that sentiment even as to the WA2 - which makes perfect sense if you understand the circuits, the impact of constant current, and the ease of dropping nice film output caps in the crack.)  Unless you are just looking to tweak FR a bit, I would encourage you towards an amp upgrade, but I have yet to hear the M-Stage and can't weigh in there.    
 
Feb 21, 2014 at 1:39 PM Post #8,430 of 28,992
There's always Beats. Sorry couldn't help but think of that commercial. Guess marketing does work. I can just picture your wife screaming at you and then you put on those noise canceling Beats in front of her. "Well you can tell everybody..."
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Well, if you put on Beats then you will not enjoy the music...and if you are not enjoying the music then your wife will not start to nag you.  So, basically, the Beats are useless in wife nagging scenarios.
 
The amount of nagging is directly proportional to how much enjoyment (away from your wife or girlfriend) you are having. 
 
The moral of the story is -- look miserable when you listen to your HD800.  If that does not work and she decides to give you grief, switch to the T5p or Alpha Dog immediately.  
 

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