[MattTCG]

^^ Nope. Without the cable the 800 weights 375 grams. I'm just trying to figure where the 330 gram figure comes from. 

 

[Sorrodje]

That extra weight is the SDR mod

 
 
lol. Nope. it's only 6g for a pair. 

 

[fjrabon]

^^ Nope. Without the cable the 800 weights 375 grams. I'm just trying to figure where the 330 gram figure comes from. 

Th easy answer is Sennheiser. It's what they say in every piece of literature. No idea why they got it wrong.

Only other thing I can think is some headphones "gain weight" over time as the headband and pads absorb sweat and dead skin. But I doubt that could be what's causing this much variation.

 

[MattTCG]

Maybe sennheiser did get it wrong and these reviews just pull that number from the site. But mine were 375 out of the box. Can you imagine the comfort if they were actually 330? I guess their is no definitive answer.

 

[MattTCG]

Okay, so after you take the headband and earpads off, the 800 is at 335 grams. Surely they didn't strip it down and publish this as the legitimate curb weight...

 

[ColtMrFire]

Dayum.  On Charles Mingus' "Mingus Ah Um" track 2 (superbly mastered) I can hear the spit going through the reed instrument.  Jotun/Mimby/HD800 FTW.

 

[fjrabon]

  Dayum.  On Charles Mingus' "Mingus Ah Um" track 2 (superbly mastered) I can hear the spit going through the reed instrument.  Jotun/Mimby/HD800 FTW.

not to lessen the abilities of that system (it's an amazing system, for sure), but I can definitely hear the raspy spittle of Booker Ervin's sax with even my EMU walnut straight out of my iPhone on Goodbye Pork Pie Hat.  It was an interesting choice the way they mic'd that, as most engineers would have "fixed it" but I have to imagine it was purposefully left that way for the effect, given the level of care the rest of the instruments were recorded with.  
 
an interesting "crazy resolution" moment from the same album is the very faint squeak of the kick drum in Boogie Stop Shuffle around 3:11 and 3:15.  

 

[ColtMrFire]

While I thoroughly enjoy the Mimby through the Jot, it's a fairly neutral presentation.  I have a feeling the transparent Jot /HD800 would work best with the warm euphonia from the Gumby.  One day...

 

[fjrabon]

While I thoroughly enjoy the Mimby through the Jot, it's a fairly neutral presentation.  I have a feeling the transparent Jot /HD800 would work best with the warm euphonia from the Gumby.  One day...

I just wish I had a clear idea of what Schiit was going to do with their DAC line. There are these repeated hints of a game changer coming. Otherwise I'd throw down for a gumby right now.

I never felt that gumby or yggy were any more "warm euphonia" than the MiMBy but rather that they just had adequately powered analog output stages, which gave more attack to the low end. The MiMBy is sort of warm, but a bit light in the pants with bass attack due to the somewhat shortchanged analog output stage (due simply to lessened power supply).

I also don't think any of the Schiit DACs are truly warm. We are just used to sabre based DS DACs and all their god awful hash glare and artificial "detail" harshness. I love that most DAC makers have either moved to R2R or the akm approach. Even chord's tuning is "warm." To me none of these are warm, but rather correct. It's just that we've all had crappy DACs for years and are just now hearing it the way it should be.

 

[jamesino]

Not that I'm looking to purchase another pair of HPs, does anyone also own an LCD 2/X/3/4 and overall prefer the HD 800 to the LCDs? I understand that they're very different headphones in terms of sound signature and obviously different in prices, but it seems like most reviews I've read so far overall prefer the LCDs due to their musicality.

 

[fjrabon]

Not that I'm looking to purchase another pair of HPs, does anyone also own an LCD 2/X/3/4 and overall prefer the HD 800 to the LCDs? I understand that they're very different headphones in terms of sound signature and obviously different in prices, but it seems like most reviews I've read so far overall prefer the LCDs due to their musicality.

I'm not a big fan at all of the X and XC. Or the EL8 or EL8C for that matter. The 2.2f is very good, but isn't on a level with the HD800 in terms of detail, transparency, soundstage and speed. The 3&4 are much closer in all regards except soundstage. The LCDs do win in terms of impact.

Frequency response is a preference issue. I don't like either frequency response, to be totally honest, but I just EQ anyway. The only headphones that I'm happy with their frequency response as is are the abyss and Utopia. The HD800, with the right system, can achieve performance the LCDs can only dream of.

 

[thefitz]

Not that I'm looking to purchase another pair of HPs, does anyone also own an LCD 2/X/3/4 and overall prefer the HD 800 to the LCDs? I understand that they're very different headphones in terms of sound signature and obviously different in prices, but it seems like most reviews I've read so far overall prefer the LCDs due to their musicality.

My LCD-X are my favourite headphone overall in terms of musicality. There's not one thing I'd change. If I have a critique it's that the soundstage isn't particularly exceptional. But for me it's a perfect blend of clarity, detail, transparency, and musicality. The XC IMO has more in common timbre wise with the HD800 than the X - it's incredibly detailed and quite hot in the treble overall.

For me, the the LCD-3F sounds like an LCD-2.2 without the grain. Both sets have a very smoky sound - a cigar, brandy, and stuffed leather armchair kind of sound.

 

[DavidA]

  Not that I'm looking to purchase another pair of HPs, does anyone also own an LCD 2/X/3/4 and overall prefer the HD 800 to the LCDs? I understand that they're very different headphones in terms of sound signature and obviously different in prices, but it seems like most reviews I've read so far overall prefer the LCDs due to their musicality.

Like @fjrabon I'm not a fan of the X or XC, but the 2 and 3 are good if that is a sound signature that you like.  If I had to pick one from LCD-2 or HD-800 I would take the HD-800, mainly for comfort reasons and the fact that you can EQ the HD-800 to almost any sound signature you like while it LCD-2/3/X are not as flexible with EQ.
 
A term like "musicality" means different thing to different people so it depends on the genre for me between the LCD series or HD-800/S which I would use. 

 

[cycle53x12]

  Not that I'm looking to purchase another pair of HPs, does anyone also own an LCD 2/X/3/4 and overall prefer the HD 800 to the LCDs? I understand that they're very different headphones in terms of sound signature and obviously different in prices, but it seems like most reviews I've read so far overall prefer the LCDs due to their musicality.

I have the both the HD800 and LCD XC. The HD are my favorite when I have a quite environment to listen in, otherwise I will use the XC. With that said I not sure the XC is at the same level as the HD when it comes to accuracy and clarity. The Hd's are so wide and spacious, and for me very satisfying.
The XC seem a little warmer but not as precise to me but are very enjoyable with certain types of music that I have like 80's rock (Journey, Kansas, Boston). I have never heard the other LCD's but have read here that they are a different animal all together.

 

[bosiemoncrieff]

 
I have the both the HD800 and LCD XC. The HD are my favorite when I have a quite environment to listen in, otherwise I will use the XC. With that said I not sure the XC is at the same level as the HD when it comes to accuracy and clarity. The Hd's are so wide and spacious, and for me very satisfying.
The XC seem a little warmer but not as precise to me but are very enjoyable with certain types of music that I have like 80's rock (Journey, Kansas, Boston). I have never heard the other LCD's but have read here that they are a different animal all together.

how do the hd600s stack up against xc?