JRiver Media Center 18
Jul 22, 2013 at 4:43 PM Post #166 of 289
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I have some question.
Which output mode is recommend for M2TECH hiFace Two (with JH3A) on Windows 7.
Currently I'm using WASAPI, Is that OK?

 Yes, with USB audio devices WASAPI is the way to go.
It gives you a bit perfect path between the player and the audio device and takes care of automatic sample rate switching as well
 
Jul 23, 2013 at 9:34 AM Post #167 of 289
I signed up for MC19 last night..all I would say is the fact that it is cheaper than the MC17 to MC18 fees
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Anyone know when it is actually ready for download?
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Jul 23, 2013 at 4:24 PM Post #168 of 289
It's interesting to me as a software developer and an audiophile, to read all the price discussion about JMC. Compared to how much you actually use JMC and how big a role it plays in your listening systems, what percentage of the cost of all your gear is the $49? Or is the $18 for the upgrade? If you think of JMC as 25% of your system, I bet it's not even 10% of the cost of most people's gear. Yes, the percentage is arbitrary though.
 
I can't imagine how much development time goes into such a complex piece of software, but $49 or $18 for an upgrade seems like a pretty small price to pay in the realm of high end audio.
Yes, it's just software, not hardware, but it's still serving a large amount of the functionality of a listening system. Sure, doing the R&D and building a high end amplifier or DAC may cost more money, but in terms of "man hours", the amount of work to "build" software is non-trivial.
 
OK, maybe I am biased, but at $49 a pop, I am guessing they have to sell a LOT of copies to just break even. Then you look at the time required to develop version 19, I wonder how many $18 upgrades they need to sell to recoup those costs.
 
I guess in this day and age of $0.99 apps, $49 might seem like a lot.
 
Jul 23, 2013 at 5:09 PM Post #169 of 289
Ya right!  You would expect that if you paid for the upgrade it would work!  I upgraded from v16 to v18 and my system was down for two weeks.  Won't be upgrading again for sure as we are the beta testers.  They need us so they can fix the problems we encounter.  They don't deliver products that work before they roll them out!
 
That is a problem for me!  Not worth the price for upgrades.
 
Jul 23, 2013 at 7:21 PM Post #171 of 289
This last point basically negates your entire post. When compared to the competition, JRiver's pricing is quite unreasonable.


Imho, one could look at it as a portion of the entire system certainly. But I think as an upgrade/update it is worth considering what one gets from paying 40% of the original cost. I understand that jriver may have spent millions of manhours on developing it, but if it does not have the improvements I need/want then it's expensive to me.

Having said that, what's the difference between 18 and 19?

Thanks
 
Jul 24, 2013 at 7:32 PM Post #174 of 289
But if it's a PC with a different operating system you're out of luck....
A different platform, not a different operating system. OS X is very different from Windows.

This last point basically negates your entire post. When compared to the competition, JRiver's pricing is quite unreasonable.
What apps are competing with JRiver at $0.99?

Remember, this is only a list of features which are currently in MC19 after 12 builds. I think they are looking to release a public beta in August.
 
Jul 24, 2013 at 8:43 PM Post #175 of 289
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A different platform, not a different operating system. OS X is very different from Windows.
What apps are competing with JRiver at $0.99?
Remember, this is only a list of features which are currently in MC19 after 12 builds. I think they are looking to release a public beta in August.

Actually, it's always a different operating system. Only sometimes is it a different platform.
 
As far as competition, foobar is free. iTunes is free with OS X. Plex, WMC, XBMC, just google media player and the list goes on.
 
Jul 30, 2013 at 3:29 PM Post #176 of 289
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Actually, it's always a different operating system. Only sometimes is it a different platform.
 
As far as competition, foobar is free. iTunes is free with OS X. Plex, WMC, XBMC, just google media player and the list goes on.

Plex, WMC, XBMC - Really?  These are not audiophile applications.  
 
How about:  Just to name a few audiophile playback solutions 
 
Yes Foobar is free and a good one at that.
 
Decibel = $33
Audirvana Plus = $74
XXHighEnd = $100?? (windows)
Pure Music = $129
Fidela Advanced = $99
 
Jul 30, 2013 at 3:42 PM Post #177 of 289
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Plex, WMC, XBMC - Really?  These are not audiophile applications.  
 
How about:  Just to name a few audiophile playback solutions 
 
Yes Foobar is free and a good one at that.
 
Decibel = $33
Audirvana Plus = $74
XXHighEnd = $100?? (windows)
Pure Music = $129
Fidela Advanced = $99

one of the not mentioned here attributes of Jriver is the amazing video support...i haven't checked out all of those you mentioned but most will not do video.  probably many of the "audiophiles" here at headfi are also into movies, and this software does a great job of organizing and playing videos, as well as simplifying photos and even documents.  so you get a piece of software that sounds great, has fantastic tagging features, infinitely customizable, and will work with your video and photo stuff as well so you don't need to use a bunch of different programs
 
i don't care who uses what but i support Jriver and appreciate the program very much.  now that i have Jremote for my ios devices, it has become a huge part of my daily media life.
 
Jul 30, 2013 at 4:42 PM Post #178 of 289
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one of the not mentioned here attributes of Jriver is the amazing video support...i haven't checked out all of those you mentioned but most will not do video.  probably many of the "audiophiles" here at headfi are also into movies, and this software does a great job of organizing and playing videos, as well as simplifying photos and even documents.  so you get a piece of software that sounds great, has fantastic tagging features, infinitely customizable, and will work with your video and photo stuff as well so you don't need to use a bunch of different programs
 
i don't care who uses what but i support Jriver and appreciate the program very much.  now that i have Jremote for my ios devices, it has become a huge part of my daily media life.

 
Yes, Yes - great point.  This is I would say the absolute best all in one solutions in the game.  Not to mention the best library support of them all as well.  So yes, you get more than just an audiophile music solution.  
 

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