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HD800 vs HE500
Jan 10, 2014 at 9:19 PM Post #691 of 1,025
blasyrkh said:
   
I own a Benchmark Dac1 + Yaoin 300b ....but I have listened them with better rigs.
I think they can scale high, but that only concerns quality, not the frequency balance....they will always be brighter than he500 with a neutral amp
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Again, no arguments here too in bold. I gotta say the Benchmark DAC1 is one of the brightest higher end front ends I've come across, so not ideal for the HD800s.
 
Jan 10, 2014 at 11:52 PM Post #693 of 1,025
bleak said:
  Hello good folks!
 
I was wondering about the main differences in these two cans. I own the HE500, but I am looking for something with better imaging and soundstage. I listened to mainly well produced Progrock (Ayreon, Porcupine Tree, Dream Theater, Opeth etc.), but also others genres like rock, jazz, classical and sometimes electronic.
 
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For me, only one answer = HD800.  IMO, the 2 HPs complement each other well for my taste.
 
Jan 10, 2014 at 11:58 PM Post #694 of 1,025
macedonianhero said:
  Really?
 
http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=4061&graphID[]=3241&scale=30
 
Sorry, but I've always felt that the HD800's bass is very satisfying...but here's the rub...getting the upstream setup right is much harder than pretty much every dynamic headphone out there. (Note: I don't consider the HE-6s part of this conversation for obvious reasons). 
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and you believe in that graph ?  or your ear?  I don't.  I think that if you pull 10 people off the street and ask them to listen to the HD800 and HE500, all will say HD is bass light compared to HE500.
I am not debating bass quality/extension here or which bass one would prefer.  Graphs, especially the one in the link, is extremely misleading to me.  I do find bass on HD800 satisfying as well for certain genres but not all.  That's where the HE500 comes in.  Maybe, it's just a personal taste/preference matter.  Just my 2c.
 
Jan 11, 2014 at 12:06 AM Post #696 of 1,025
pdrm360 said:
   
Oh, come on!  What is happening?
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He said "soundstage and imaging" therefore it was game over for HE500.  There are certain places trucks don't belong.  Just like, there are places Ferrari just won't cut it.  Life is simple, at least for me.   
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Jan 11, 2014 at 12:15 AM Post #699 of 1,025
koiloco said:
and you believe in that graph ?  or your ear?  I don't.  I think that if you pull 10 people off the street and ask them to listen to the HD800 and HE500, all will say HD is bass light compared to HE500.
I am not debating bass quality/extension here or which bass one would prefer.  Graphs, especially the one in the link, is extremely misleading to me.  I do find bass on HD800 satisfying as well for certain genres but not all.  That's where the HE500 comes in.  Maybe, it's just a personal taste/preference matter.  Just my 2c.
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Easy, I believe both, cause that graph is how I hear it on my rig.
 
Jan 11, 2014 at 12:21 AM Post #700 of 1,025
macedonianhero said:
Easy, I believe both, cause that graph is how I hear it on my rig.
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Please share your setup cuz I can't find an amp to push out the same amount of bass from my HD800 that will be comparable to HE500 driven by a speaker amp.  I have listened to HD800 on pretty much all Woo amps, Taboo MKIII, EC, Headamp, Liquid Glass/Gold and some Schiit.
 
Jan 11, 2014 at 12:22 AM Post #701 of 1,025
Been listening to the HD800, the HE-500, and the LCD-2.2 on the LG for awhile. All I can say is, the LCD-2.2's soundstage scales a lot. 
 
Jan 11, 2014 at 12:23 AM Post #702 of 1,025
austin morrow said:
  Been listening to the HD800, the HE-500, and the LCD-2.2 on the LG for awhile. All I can say is, the LCD-2.2's soundstage scales a lot. 
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I was about to PM you and tell you to get your a... back here.  We are talking about important stuff right now.  Forget about 560 hype train. 
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Jan 11, 2014 at 12:24 AM Post #703 of 1,025
austin morrow said:
  Been listening to the HD800, the HE-500, and the LCD-2.2 on the LG for awhile. All I can say is, the LCD-2.2's soundstage scales a lot. 
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Verify something for me on the LG, do you feel you are getting the same amount of bass(not talking quality/extension here) from HD800 compared to HE500? I never did.
 
Jan 11, 2014 at 12:31 AM Post #704 of 1,025
koiloco said:
  Verify something for me on the LG, do you feel you are getting the same amount of bass(not talking quality/extension here) from HD800 compared to HE500? I never did.
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Not in the slightest. The bass of the HE-500 quantitatively outweighs the bass of the HD800 on the LG 2:1. 
 
Jan 11, 2014 at 12:38 AM Post #705 of 1,025
koiloco said:
Please share your setup cuz I can't find an amp to push out the same amount of bass from my HD800 that will be comparable to HE500 driven by a speaker amp.  I have listened to HD800 on pretty much all Woo amps, Taboo MKIII, EC, Headamp, Liquid Glass/Gold and some Schiit.
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It's in my profile. Plus I think you're forgetting the dac/source too. I think you might be mistaking the quickness of the HD800's bass (as per its very tight waterfall plot) as being light. Its there and its fast (and measureably closer to the recording), while the HE-500s have more "bloom" and technically slower. This can give the impression of more bass, though objectively (and based on my experiences) there certainly isn't more...and the objective measurements agree with that.

I've also owned the HE-6s and never once thought they had more bass than the HD800s (and regardless of speaker amp).
 
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