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post #691 of 1025
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Originally Posted by Blasyrkh View Post
 

 

I own a Benchmark Dac1 + Yaoin 300b ....but I have listened them with better rigs.

I think they can scale high, but that only concerns quality, not the frequency balance....they will always be brighter than he500 with a neutral amp

Again, no arguments here too in bold. I gotta say the Benchmark DAC1 is one of the brightest higher end front ends I've come across, so not ideal for the HD800s.

post #692 of 1025
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

Again, no arguments here too in bold. I gotta say the Benchmark DAC1 is one of the brightest higher end front ends I've come across, so not ideal for the HD800s.

yes you are right, but that's where the Yaoin comes to play....I can get two kinda opposite sounds swapping tubes

post #693 of 1025
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Originally Posted by BleaK View Post
 

Hello good folks!

 

I was wondering about the main differences in these two cans. I own the HE500, but I am looking for something with better imaging and soundstage. I listened to mainly well produced Progrock (Ayreon, Porcupine Tree, Dream Theater, Opeth etc.), but also others genres like rock, jazz, classical and sometimes electronic.

 

Which is the best phone?

For me, only one answer = HD800.  IMO, the 2 HPs complement each other well for my taste.

post #694 of 1025
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

Really?

 

http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=4061&graphID[]=3241&scale=30

 

Sorry, but I've always felt that the HD800's bass is very satisfying...but here's the rub...getting the upstream setup right is much harder than pretty much every dynamic headphone out there. (Note: I don't consider the HE-6s part of this conversation for obvious reasons). 

and you believe in that graph ?  or your ear?  I don't.  I think that if you pull 10 people off the street and ask them to listen to the HD800 and HE500, all will say HD is bass light compared to HE500.

I am not debating bass quality/extension here or which bass one would prefer.  Graphs, especially the one in the link, is extremely misleading to me.  I do find bass on HD800 satisfying as well for certain genres but not all.  That's where the HE500 comes in.  Maybe, it's just a personal taste/preference matter.  Just my 2c.


Edited by koiloco - 1/10/14 at 9:03pm
post #695 of 1025
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 

For me, only one answer = HD800.  IMO, the 2 HPs complement each other well for my taste.

 

Oh, come on!  What is happening?

post #696 of 1025
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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post
 

 

Oh, come on!  What is happening?

He said "soundstage and imaging" therefore it was game over for HE500.  There are certain places trucks don't belong.  Just like, there are places Ferrari just won't cut it.  Life is simple, at least for me.   ;)

post #697 of 1025

This is more close to what I heard on the HE-500

 

post #698 of 1025
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 

He said "soundstage and imaging" therefore it was game over for HE500.  There are certain places trucks don't belong.  Just like, there are places Ferrari just won't cut it.  Life is simple, at least for me.   ;)

 

Glad you came back to the original. :D

post #699 of 1025
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post

and you believe in that graph ?  or your ear?  I don't.  I think that if you pull 10 people off the street and ask them to listen to the HD800 and HE500, all will say HD is bass light compared to HE500.
I am not debating bass quality/extension here or which bass one would prefer.  Graphs, especially the one in the link, is extremely misleading to me.  I do find bass on HD800 satisfying as well for certain genres but not all.  That's where the HE500 comes in.  Maybe, it's just a personal taste/preference matter.  Just my 2c.

Easy, I believe both, cause that graph is how I hear it on my rig.
post #700 of 1025
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post


Easy, I believe both, cause that graph is how I hear it on my rig.

Please share your setup cuz I can't find an amp to push out the same amount of bass from my HD800 that will be comparable to HE500 driven by a speaker amp.  I have listened to HD800 on pretty much all Woo amps, Taboo MKIII, EC, Headamp, Liquid Glass/Gold and some Schiit.

post #701 of 1025

Been listening to the HD800, the HE-500, and the LCD-2.2 on the LG for awhile. All I can say is, the LCD-2.2's soundstage scales a lot

post #702 of 1025
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Originally Posted by Austin Morrow View Post
 

Been listening to the HD800, the HE-500, and the LCD-2.2 on the LG for awhile. All I can say is, the LCD-2.2's soundstage scales a lot

I was about to PM you and tell you to get your a... back here.  We are talking about important stuff right now.  Forget about 560 hype train. :D

post #703 of 1025
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Originally Posted by Austin Morrow View Post
 

Been listening to the HD800, the HE-500, and the LCD-2.2 on the LG for awhile. All I can say is, the LCD-2.2's soundstage scales a lot

Verify something for me on the LG, do you feel you are getting the same amount of bass(not talking quality/extension here) from HD800 compared to HE500? I never did.

post #704 of 1025
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 

Verify something for me on the LG, do you feel you are getting the same amount of bass(not talking quality/extension here) from HD800 compared to HE500? I never did.

 

Not in the slightest. The bass of the HE-500 quantitatively outweighs the bass of the HD800 on the LG 2:1. 

post #705 of 1025
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post

Please share your setup cuz I can't find an amp to push out the same amount of bass from my HD800 that will be comparable to HE500 driven by a speaker amp.  I have listened to HD800 on pretty much all Woo amps, Taboo MKIII, EC, Headamp, Liquid Glass/Gold and some Schiit.

It's in my profile. Plus I think you're forgetting the dac/source too. I think you might be mistaking the quickness of the HD800's bass (as per its very tight waterfall plot) as being light. Its there and its fast (and measureably closer to the recording), while the HE-500s have more "bloom" and technically slower. This can give the impression of more bass, though objectively (and based on my experiences) there certainly isn't more...and the objective measurements agree with that.

I've also owned the HE-6s and never once thought they had more bass than the HD800s (and regardless of speaker amp).
Edited by MacedonianHero - 1/10/14 at 9:49pm
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