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Nov 28, 2014 at 6:54 PM Post #7,066 of 9,120
@BucketInABucket
 
If he only wants to game, you can go for the Pentium edition CPU that is 'new'. Very good gaming performance. 
It isn't good at doing 'real' computer usage if he wants that though.
 
Here's a general log for $700 for gaming only irregardless of size, power consumption.
 
 
Here is a link that you can look through.
 
Notice that there are often sales for the Pentium CPU are either for $50 by itself, $60 with some add on components, or even $95 average for a pentium and an ok motherboard for it.
 
All prices below can be had if he hunts for deals and gets it right
 
General log:
CPU+Motherboard: $100 (Pentium and add on not that bad mobo)
RAM: 4GB DDR3 on sale :$30 on sale after MIR
SSD: 128GB Mainstream PNY: $40
Case: $20 NZXT Source 210 on sale after MIR
PSU: $30 550W Seasonic Rebrand from XFX on sale  after MIR
GPU: R9 290X for $320 on sale 
 
 
This will be the fastest rig he can buy for $700 for gaming alone. There is still a lot left over in that $700 if we want to go crazy and say we get a 7870 GHz from Ebay crypto sale and get 4 of them (faster than a 290x) 
 
This rig won't be very good for anything real besides a fast ass **** in gaming though lol
 
You can make it a real computer by doing a 
 
CPU i5 45xx: $180
Motherboard: $90 Gigabyte, Asrock, MSI ATX mobo
RAM: 8GB DDR3 on sale for $60
SSD: 256GB On sale SSD for $80
Case: $20 NZXT or even a $50 on sale case that is usually $100
PSU: $30 550W Seasonic Rebrand from xFX on sale and after MIR
GPU: R9 290, R9 280x, Nvidia GTX 970
Aftermarket Cooling: Either $40 AIO or a mega air setup
 
This is a fairly standard fast gaming computer that can handle real world use that people build
 
Nov 28, 2014 at 7:03 PM Post #7,067 of 9,120
I ordered all the parts for my pc:
 
i5-4440
Zotac GTX970
ASUS Z97-A mobo
Corsair H90 cooler
WD Blue 1 TB HD
Ripjaws X 8 GB RAM
THOR v2 Case
Samsung 120Gb SSD
EVGA 750W Gold PS
 
Probably not the most cost effective build, especially since I couldn't find a great deal on a 250 GB SSD.  Thanks to all the guys on this thread who gave me advice!
 
Nov 28, 2014 at 7:05 PM Post #7,068 of 9,120
  I ordered all the parts for my pc:
 
i5-4440
Zotac GTX970
ASUS Z97-A mobo
Corsair H90 cooler
WD Blue 1 TB HD
Ripjaws X 8 GB RAM
THOR v2 Case
Samsung 120Gb SSD
EVGA 750W Gold PS
 
Probably not the most cost effective build, especially since I couldn't find a great deal on a 250 GB SSD.  Thanks to all the guys on this thread who gave me advice!

Nice stuff man
 
But by all means, you didn't need an EVGA 750W gold PSU. Unless you got it on sale. I forgot, were youo the one that was able to get that on a nice sale? If so, then yeah it's good. If it's over $60....then meh
 
Nov 28, 2014 at 7:11 PM Post #7,069 of 9,120
  Nice stuff man
 
But by all means, you didn't need an EVGA 750W gold PSU. Unless you got it on sale. I forgot, were youo the one that was able to get that on a nice sale? If so, then yeah it's good. If it's over $60....then meh

I got it from NCIX US which came out to be about $60 including shipping and mail in rebate.  All I need to buy is a monitor.  Any ideas on good deals?
 
Nov 28, 2014 at 7:12 PM Post #7,070 of 9,120
  I got it from NCIX US which came out to be about $60 including shipping and mail in rebate.  All I need to buy is a monitor.  Any ideas on good deals?

Check out the deals threads on Reddit
 
There is a Dell Ultrasharp on sale for sub $120 I belive. 
 
Nov 28, 2014 at 8:02 PM Post #7,071 of 9,120
@BucketInABucket


If he only wants to game, you can go for the Pentium edition CPU that is 'new'. Very good gaming performance. 
It isn't good at doing 'real' computer usage if he wants that though.

Here's a general log for $700 for gaming only irregardless of size, power consumption.


Here is a link that you can look through.

Notice that there are often sales for the Pentium CPU are either for $50 by itself, $60 with some add on components, or even $95 average for a pentium and an ok motherboard for it.

All prices below can be had if he hunts for deals and gets it right

General log:
CPU+Motherboard: $100 (Pentium and add on not that bad mobo)
RAM: 4GB DDR3 on sale :$30 on sale after MIR
SSD: 128GB Mainstream PNY: $40
Case: $20 NZXT Source 210 on sale after MIR
PSU: $30 550W Seasonic Rebrand from XFX on sale  after MIR
GPU: R9 290X for $320 on sale 


This will be the fastest rig he can buy for $700 for gaming alone. There is still a lot left over in that $700 if we want to go crazy and say we get a 7870 GHz from Ebay crypto sale and get 4 of them (faster than a 290x) 

This rig won't be very good for anything real besides a fast ass **** in gaming though lol

You can make it a real computer by doing a 

CPU i5 45xx: $180
Motherboard: $90 Gigabyte, Asrock, MSI ATX mobo
RAM: 8GB DDR3 on sale for $60
SSD: 256GB On sale SSD for $80
Case: $20 NZXT or even a $50 on sale case that is usually $100
PSU: $30 550W Seasonic Rebrand from xFX on sale and after MIR
GPU: R9 290, R9 280x, Nvidia GTX 970
Aftermarket Cooling: Either $40 AIO or a mega air setup

This is a fairly standard fast gaming computer that can handle real world use that people build

Thanks for the help mate c:
 
Nov 28, 2014 at 8:33 PM Post #7,073 of 9,120
Thanks for the help mate c:

ya mate
 
  Are you talking about the $120 off on this monitor?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824260047&nm_mc=EMC-EXPRESS011114&cm_mmc=EMC-EXPRESS011114-_-EMC-011114-Index-_-LCDMonitors-_-24260047-L01A

http://slickdeals.net/f/7433098-27-acer-k2-series-2560x1440-ips-led-monitor-275-w-visa-checkout-free-ship-newegg
http://slickdeals.net/f/7427974-27-ips-glass-panel-pro-wqhd-2560x1440-1440p-led-monitor-299-99-fs-from-monoprice
http://slickdeals.net/f/7406496-2x-dell-22-p2214h-ips-monitors-dual-monitor-stand-125-egift-card-370-free-shipping
 
There was another one I was refering to, but the above are fine as well
 
Nov 28, 2014 at 9:40 PM Post #7,074 of 9,120
  ya mate
 
http://slickdeals.net/f/7433098-27-acer-k2-series-2560x1440-ips-led-monitor-275-w-visa-checkout-free-ship-newegg
http://slickdeals.net/f/7427974-27-ips-glass-panel-pro-wqhd-2560x1440-1440p-led-monitor-299-99-fs-from-monoprice
http://slickdeals.net/f/7406496-2x-dell-22-p2214h-ips-monitors-dual-monitor-stand-125-egift-card-370-free-shipping
 
There was another one I was refering to, but the above are fine as well

Thanks, the Acer and Monoprice look interesting.  Do you know whether resolution or refresh rate or something else is most important in a monitor?  Basically I want to take advantage of the GTX970 but don't want to spend too much on a monitor (preferably <$250).
 
Nov 28, 2014 at 9:56 PM Post #7,075 of 9,120
  Thanks, the Acer and Monoprice look interesting.  Do you know whether resolution or refresh rate or something else is most important in a monitor?  Basically I want to take advantage of the GTX970 but don't want to spend too much on a monitor (preferably <$250).

Fair deal
 
There are some people that buy monitors way too expensive(high in res) for them and have a schiit graphics card and don't know why it won't game well.
 
If you want to game 'well' on it. Don't buy a monitor at a res you can't handle. 
 
Nov 28, 2014 at 10:00 PM Post #7,076 of 9,120
Fair deal

There are some people that buy monitors way too expensive(high in res) for them and have a schiit graphics card and don't know why it won't game well.

If you want to game 'well' on it. Don't buy a monitor at a res you can't handle. 


If you don't want to be disappointed, don't buy a monitor. Use your imagination.
 
Nov 28, 2014 at 10:41 PM Post #7,078 of 9,120
  Fair deal
 
There are some people that buy monitors way too expensive(high in res) for them and have a schiit graphics card and don't know why it won't game well.
 
If you want to game 'well' on it. Don't buy a monitor at a res you can't handle. 

 
I wonder though why 2560x1080 (23:9) monitor is not really popular, IMO it gives a more immersive gaming experience than 16:9.
 
Nov 28, 2014 at 10:51 PM Post #7,079 of 9,120
   
I wonder though why 2560x1080 (23:9) monitor is not really popular, IMO it gives a more immersive gaming experience than 16:9.

Because general media and almost everything else looks like crap.
 
I don't want to go into the history of it. But 16:9 won a war of ratios of sorts and as most media supports or will adapts to it, it goes that route.
 
A 23:9 monitor will be bad for most media with a LOT of black bars if you don't want the media to stretch. 
 
 
Most websites even today are not friendly to widescreen screens. Hell, most websites today on a 1080p monitor have a bit of white space to the left and right of the centered page.
 
Nov 29, 2014 at 12:25 AM Post #7,080 of 9,120
  Because general media and almost everything else looks like crap.
 
I don't want to go into the history of it. But 16:9 won a war of ratios of sorts and as most media supports or will adapts to it, it goes that route.
 
A 23:9 monitor will be bad for most media with a LOT of black bars if you don't want the media to stretch. 
 
 
Most websites even today are not friendly to widescreen screens. Hell, most websites today on a 1080p monitor have a bit of white space to the left and right of the centered page.

 I hate watching a "1080p" movie on a tv or my computer when it's really only 1920x800 because of the stupid wide screen ratio.  I agree, most websites look better on 4:3 monitors as there's not a bunch of background doing nothing.  
 

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