Ugh, new AMD tech?  Damn it, it's going to be a bitch to get the vendor training if I do make it to the job at Micro Center.
 
BTW, speaking of Micro Center, I had the group interview, and I learned, among other things, that the store will open on December 2nd, and the address is 71-63 Kissena Blvd.  I'll find out if I move onto individual interviews the beginning of next week.

jbstormburstadv said:

  Ugh, new AMD tech?  Damn it, it's going to be a bitch to get the vendor training if I do make it to the job at Micro Center.
 
BTW, speaking of Micro Center, I had the group interview, and I learned, among other things, that the store will open on December 2nd, and the address is 71-63 Kissena Blvd.  I'll find out if I move onto individual interviews the beginning of next week.

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Its not really "new tech", same concept has been around for awhile

 

 From Forbes:
Actually, I doubt it. Unlike your gaming rig, Sony’s CPU/GPU combo chip is much cheaper to manufacture. The heating solution for one chip is also cheaper, as is the fact that no operating system overhead exists.

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Yup, PS4 has no OS.  Hardware is managed through a rotating magic 8 ball.

yazen said:

   
Yup, PS4 has no OS.  Hardware is managed through a rotating magic 8 ball.

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lol
 
also re did my air today, 3 new cases fans, and an ECO Copper Cpu Heat Sink [the dmn heat sink is SO big I had t0 removed one of cover case fans
 
before the new Heat Sink I was maxing out at like 60c and 50c idle
 
I'm now averaging about 10c lower in everything and it's not even WINTER yet... my system is going to hit 20c soon then It will b time to try for a stable 4.01 ghz overclock! 
 
Then to sell it some day OR after I OC the thing drop a new gpu and get as much out of her as possible 

mshenay said:

  lol
 
also re did my air today, 3 new cases fans, and an ECO Copper Cpu Heat Sink [the dmn heat sink is SO big I had t0 removed one of cover case fans
 
before the new Heat Sink I was maxing out at like 60c and 50c idle
 
I'm now averaging about 10c lower in everything and it's not even WINTER yet... my system is going to hit 20c soon then It will b time to try for a stable 4.01 ghz overclock! 
 
Then to sell it some day OR after I OC the thing drop a new gpu and get as much out of her as possible 

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Oh.. NICE!
Any cooler and you might need to get a heater for your HDD haha.
 
When googling ECO I found this:
http://www.amazon.com/CoolIT-Systems-A-L-C-Cooler-ECO-R/dp/B0035K2GM2/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
 
Any complaints with your model?

yazen said:

This:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Official-White-Play-SEGA-USB-PC-MAC-PS3-Controller-Saturn-Style-New-GENUINE-/350869689231?pt=US_Video_Game_Controllers&hash=item51b176938f


EDIT:
I remember the early closed beta for Steam Linux..  I installed the package again today to check it out again, same bugs
Linux needs more love

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Works just fine for me on OpenSuse 12.3...at least on my laptop. Got it from the repository (I think; perhaps actually got it as a one click install) as building from source was an exercise in frustration. On my HTPC it shows up as installed, but have no desktop nor menu icon and it's not in my path...really strange but since I only have a Geforce 9100M in there it's most likely not a big issue. When I have more time I'll try and sort it out or perhaps simply install Splashtop and use that.

As a side note I did have the beta client installed but got tired of installing 90+ mb worth of 'updates' every time I fired Steam up so I opted out of that.

yazen said:

   
Oh.. NICE!
Any cooler and you might need to get a heater for your HDD haha.
 
When googling ECO I found this:
http://www.amazon.com/CoolIT-Systems-A-L-C-Cooler-ECO-R/dp/B0035K2GM2/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
 
Any complaints with your model?

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I doubt that, the HDD stay about 50c year round. The air flow down there is horrible xD. I'm not to happy though about having to remove one of my case fans :/ now there is only 2 in and 2 out fans. There was 3 in 2 out, still the ONE should make a differance [I've got a rather useless input fan at the front of my case, where the air flow is rather poor, still the one side fan should do nicely, as heat rises and there's two 140mm fans near the top of my case! 
 
Still though my GPU only dropped like 3c with the new fans xD although she's been 100% consisten since I've owned it! Sapphire makes a nice gpu I must say 
 
HOLY hell does the 7970 only need ONE molex connector :O or is that just for the fans [which is not an issue as I;ve got 2 6pin GPU connectors] but SERIOUSLY if it ONLY runs on ONE Molex I'll be damned shcocked!
 
Still happy to see a Sapphire 7970 is only $380. I can sell my 6950 and get the upgraded card for what I paid for my new 6950... or I could be a total bad boi and slap my 6950 and my 7970 into a NEW righ [when I build it] LAWL Don't think I'll do that though as I'd need like a SUPER ATX Case, as my Mid Case is already to small for my system :O 

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Works just fine for me on OpenSuse 12.3...at least on my laptop. Got it from the repository (I think; perhaps actually got it as a one click install) as building from source was an exercise in frustration. On my HTPC it shows up as installed, but have no desktop nor menu icon and it's not in my path...really strange but since I only have a Geforce 9100M in there it's most likely not a big issue. When I have more time I'll try and sort it out or perhaps simply install Splashtop and use that.

As a side note I did have the beta client installed but got tired of installing 90+ mb worth of 'updates' every time I fired Steam up so I opted out of that.

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Hmm, on all builds or just the most recent ones?
Did you install any dummy packages that could have caused this result?
 
Linux needs more love, tired of relying on Windows.  Not getting good results on fglrx, which is to be expected..  I wonder how next gen will impact fglrx drivers.
 
Splashtop doesn't have any latency issues?
 
I was waiting for a linux port since the early rumors (was it 2007?), and out of sheer luck was able to take part in the first wave of testing.  Its weird because when I use my developer rig, I always get accepted in steam/valve betas.
 
Its gotten so easier to install a linux distro, especially with OpenSUSE/Ubuntu/Fedora.  Even computer illiterates can install Ubuntu lol.  (okay, maybe not to that extent but def easier than installing Windows+Drivers)
 
 

mshenay said:

   
I doubt that, the HDD stay about 50c year round. The air flow down there is horrible xD. I'm not to happy though about having to remove one of my case fans :/ now there is only 2 in and 2 out fans. There was 3 in 2 out, still the ONE should make a differance [I've got a rather useless input fan at the front of my case, where the air flow is rather poor, still the one side fan should do nicely, as heat rises and there's two 140mm fans near the top of my case! 
 
Still though my GPU only dropped like 3c with the new fans xD although she's been 100% consisten since I've owned it! Sapphire makes a nice gpu I must say 
 
HOLY hell does the 7970 only need ONE molex connector :O or is that just for the fans [which is not an issue as I;ve got 2 6pin GPU connectors] but SERIOUSLY if it ONLY runs on ONE Molex I'll be damned shcocked!
 
Still happy to see a Sapphire 7970 is only $380. I can sell my 6950 and get the upgraded card for what I paid for my new 6950... or I could be a total bad boi and slap my 6950 and my 7970 into a NEW righ [when I build it] LAWL Don't think I'll do that though as I'd need like a SUPER ATX Case, as my Mid Case is already to small for my system :O 

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50C?!?  I got this hdd "cooler" as a free value gift, never tried it out though.  Idk, 50C seems like you're pushing it haha
 
Idk about the 7970, 1 molex sounds strange.  Mid was too big for me, I don't like sitting my desktop on the floor..  You're cool with Super?  I have to upload my "cable management" in my node 304.  You guys will get a good laugh for sure.

yazen said:

Hmm, on all builds or just the most recent ones?
Did you install any dummy packages that could have caused this result?

Linux needs more love, tired of relying on Windows.  Not getting good results on fglrx, which is to be expected..  I wonder how next gen will impact fglrx drivers.

Splashtop doesn't have any latency issues?

I was waiting for a linux port since the early rumors (was it 2007?), and out of sheer luck was able to take part in the first wave of testing.  Its weird because when I use my developer rig, I always get accepted in steam/valve betas.

Its gotten so easier to install a linux distro, especially with OpenSUSE/Ubuntu/Fedora.  Even computer illiterates can install Ubuntu lol.  (okay, maybe not to that extent but def easier than installing Windows+Drivers)


50C?!?  I got this hdd "cooler" as a free value gift, never tried it out though.  Idk, 50C seems like you're pushing it haha

Idk about the 7970, 1 molex sounds strange.  Mid was too big for me, I don't like sitting my desktop on the floor..  You're cool with Super?  I have to upload my "cable management" in my node 304.  You guys will get a good laugh for sure.

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I had issues about 3 or 4 months ago trying to build it; but I've noticed that OpenSuse has, ummh, dumbed down the distro a bit and it's a little tedious building anything. Even their KOTD (kernel of the day) which used to be a fun way to try out the latest and greatest has started to be a non-starter for me.

As stated it's been several months so I can't recall of the top of my head where I was vis a vis package management at the time but I like keeping my main machine fairly lean. I had just migrated my HTPC over from XBMCbuntu so other than the updates there's nothing on there that should be causing an issue.

I used to be a huge ATI fan until I got really serious about running Linux; now simply rebooting into a "3" runlevel and installing the newest Nvidia packages which just work (ignoring the lack of proper powermiser that seems to be sorted) is a lot less of a hassle.

Splashtop doesn't have enough latency to cause me concern; but I wouldn't want to use it for a BF3 multi-player session. That and I'm not a professional level gamer. But for single player or even non-twitch multiplayer it is just fine. Works with my GN II, TF101 and Linux installs so I can play either Steam games or fire up the Windows install for remote gaming.

I would not recommend a newbie to install OpenSuse; while it is a very polished distro there are certain niggling problems that could throw a spanner into the works. Something as simple as mp3 playback is not enabled out of the box. While I know about Packman repository and other little tips and tricks it's nearly the same issue as Windows. The compositing manager for KDE is a bit of a resource hog also; on the HTPC I either had to disable it (temporarily with Alt+Shift+F12 or permanently) or rooting around in the settings to disable it on full screen applications which is the route I took. There's also 'window rules' but as I do not watch the videos in anything except full screen it's less of an issue and more of a hassle to go that route.

50+ C for an hdd is actually not too bad. In fact the Google study showed that temperature resulted in fewer failures than 15-32C....for the first 2 years anyways. The 3rd year there is a very large spike in their drives failure rates that were used in that temperature range.

yazen said:

Oh.. NICE!
Any cooler and you might need to get a heater for your HDD haha.

When googling ECO I found this:
http://www.amazon.com/CoolIT-Systems-A-L-C-Cooler-ECO-R/dp/B0035K2GM2/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Any complaints with your model?

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The little plastic arms look like they'd break off in-transit.

lostinthesauce said:

As a side note I did have the beta client installed but got tired of installing 90+ mb worth of 'updates' every time I fired Steam up so I opted out of that.

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Yup, everytime...

mshenay said:

I doubt that, the HDD stay about 50c year round. The air flow down there is horrible xD. I'm not to happy though about having to remove one of my case fans :/ now there is only 2 in and 2 out fans. There was 3 in 2 out, still the ONE should make a differance [I've got a rather useless input fan at the front of my case, where the air flow is rather poor, still the one side fan should do nicely, as heat rises and there's two 140mm fans near the top of my case!  

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I personally would have more "out" fans for negative pressure, heard it has lower temps over time.

lostinthesauce said:

I had issues about 3 or 4 months ago trying to build it; but I've noticed that OpenSuse has, ummh, dumbed down the distro a bit and it's a little tedious building anything. Even their KOTD (kernel of the day) which used to be a fun way to try out the latest and greatest has started to be a non-starter for me.

As stated it's been several months so I can't recall of the top of my head where I was vis a vis package management at the time but I like keeping my main machine fairly lean. I had just migrated my HTPC over from XBMCbuntu so other than the updates there's nothing on there that should be causing an issue.

I used to be a huge ATI fan until I got really serious about running Linux; now simply rebooting into a "3" runlevel and installing the newest Nvidia packages which just work (ignoring the lack of proper powermiser that seems to be sorted) is a lot less of a hassle.

Splashtop doesn't have enough latency to cause me concern; but I wouldn't want to use it for a BF3 multi-player session. That and I'm not a professional level gamer. But for single player or even non-twitch multiplayer it is just fine. Works with my GN II, TF101 and Linux installs so I can play either Steam games or fire up the Windows install f

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or remote gaming.

I would not recommend a newbie to install OpenSuse; while it is a very polished distro there are certain niggling problems that could throw a spanner into the works. Something as simple as mp3 playback is not enabled out of the box. While I know about Packman repository and other little tips and tricks it's nearly the same issue as Windows. The compositing manager for KDE is a bit of a resource hog also; on the HTPC I either had to disable it (temporarily with Alt+Shift+F12 or permanently) or rooting around in the settings to disable it on full screen applications which is the route I took. There's also 'window rules' but as I do not watch the videos in anything except full screen it's less of an issue and more of a hassle to go that route.

50+ C for an hdd is actually not too bad. In fact the Google study showed that temperature resulted in fewer failures than 15-32C....for the first 2 years anyways. The 3rd year there is a very large spike in their drives failure rates that were used in that temperature range.

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hmm. thought the google Study concluded that 33°C is the optimal temperature. idk, I've heard my disk click at 18°C haha
in most cases, enabling a feature through a repository isn't too difficult. install ubuntu on family machines just because it saves me the hassle of installing drivers.
 
I remember when l installed half my schools machines_with ubuntu 8.04. Everyone thought it was windows 7 haha
 
.KDE non-fat? X D sorry everyone, test. in of out a rugged tablet 'fixed

Well guys, from what I have done to my system I quite love! I got a vertical mouse, and Anker, and it feels AMAZING! I also installed linux and it's SO much more productive!!! I'm loving my PC now!

yazen said:

 
50C?!?  I got this hdd "cooler" as a free value gift, never tried it out though.  Idk, 50C seems like you're pushing it haha
 
Idk about the 7970, 1 molex sounds strange.  Mid was too big for me, I don't like sitting my desktop on the floor..  You're cool with Super?  I

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50c isn't pushing imo I used to have then run like 70c q.q that was scary they max at 50c and that's pretty rare now 
 
I keep my ATX case on my Desk, as I have 2 desks. One for my PC +amps one for my Monitors in a nifty L shape :3 

You guise and your HDD coolers. Soo coote. Doesn't get that hot here so I'd be surprised if my SSDs were hotter than 30-40C

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  You guise and your HDD coolers. Soo coote. Doesn't get that hot here so I'd be surprised if my SSDs were hotter than 30-40C

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ikr still my room stays so freaking hawt >.> I swear once I OC my cpu I won't even need a heater for the winter 
 
That said, I'm enjoying Steam Games very much atm! Glad I finally got something to use my system to it's full. 

Almost winter! Can't wait 'till I get a 5-10°C drop in temps.