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post #2506 of 3252
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

If in fact there is a peak at 2KHz that would be amazing that you picked that out.  I must say, without seeing a FR chart or CSD plot first and stating at what range you hear the peak is pretty cool.  If it happens to be so.  

 

I don't use EQ so I may be missing something here.

 

Tell me you haven't seen a chart yet.  If so you just fooled the heck outta me..

 

Well, in case I wasn't clear originally (and I'm sorry if this disappoints), I've seen several measurements for the K701/K702/Q701 from a variety of sources (Tyll, purrin, Golden Ears, etc.), and I studied these pretty carefully before deciding to purchase the 65th AE. The measurements almost always exhibit some sort of peak around 2KHz. Even the K601 showed a peak there on purrin's setup. However, given the new pads and cherry-picked drivers (according to AKG), I wanted to evaluate the AE from a clean slate. I've personally heard how large of a difference pads can make in the sound alone, so that's what I did when I started listening.

 

After giving the AE a bit of listening time, I noticed a particular frequency range jumping out of me. I wasn't sure what, but I had a guess that it might be a similar peak around 2KHz. Or, at least, I felt that was the most logical place to start looking at. I honestly couldn't identify where it was exactly right off the bat...just a hunch. I tried poking around with EQ in that area, and sure enough, it definitely helped. That's how I concluded the K702 65th AE still exhibits a peak in that area. What I can't do just yet is verify the "severity" of it or how consistent those peaks are across different pairs of AE. All I know is that it literally hurts my ears after a few minutes, unless I listen at lower volumes (which is difficult for me). 

 

For other people, it might not be such a big deal. It might go completely unnoticed! All I know is that for me, it's a problem. And taking everything into consideration, I can't personally justify their price tag. I think they'd be more appropriately priced at no greater than $300, but probably less. I can understand if someone else disagrees. :)

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Originally Posted by Ganda View Post

Personally I do not suggest to use EQ for a completed head-fi system. K702 65th is really different from others (like K/Q701), but in some ways we can still hear similarities. The only thing I want to complain K702 65th is about the  original headphone cable. It is even worse OFC cable than Q701. 

 

Is it really that different, though? The only differences I've heard about are different pads and cherry-picked drivers. And I was under the impression that most people felt they sound very similar but with some minor differences that really add up in the end. I mean, they really are the same headphone but with different pads based on everything I know so far...

 

And there's nothing wrong with EQ, especially if you're using a solid parametric EQ and EQ down instead of up (or at least reduce the overall EQ gain if you EQ up in spots). For me, that's pretty easy with my PC. Thankfully, that's really the only rig I use these days. 

 

However, I do prefer more permanent solutions over EQ, including modifications. As I've mentioned, I've already started testing various damping materials in front of the AE drivers with good results to my ears, at least to the point where I don't feel it necessary to EQ the AE anymore.

 

It's nothing to take personally, for anyone. I find myself usually EQing or modifying every headphone I listen to in one way or another. :)


Edited by hans030390 - 5/14/13 at 10:38am
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Originally Posted by ninexnine View Post

That's right Everyone should prefer what they want.  I believe as one whom was involved in the recording industry, that these phones do just fine in tech performance though.
 


It's the same old marketing technique, trying to tell us what we really want/need instead of letting us make a conscious decision... For example my main in-ear is a monoprice... For 15$ I am perfectly happy with the sound ;)

post #2509 of 3252

Got a second pair of AKG K702 65 th ... from Razordog (with the super promo) .

 

First was n°154 , this one :  n°3684

 

Damn everytime that i swapp to another headphone i have the "new toy syndrom" and some months later i have to get back to K70X. but at least i could try some other great headphones :) .

 

Now when i will be a bit bored about ANV soud i will just purchast regular K702 pads and swapp it time to time tongue.gif

post #2510 of 3252
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Originally Posted by HaVoC-28 View Post

Got a second pair of AKG K702 65 th ... from Razordog (with the super promo) .

 

First was n°154 , this one :  n°3684

 

Damn everytime that i swapp to another headphone i have the "new toy syndrom" and some months later i have to get back to K70X. but at least i could try some other great headphones :) .

 

Now when i will be a bit bored about ANV soud i will just purchast regular K702 pads and swapp it time to time tongue.gif

 

Congratulations :-) It seems there really are more than 3000 pairs... Interesting.

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Originally Posted by RustA View Post

Congratulations :-) It seems there really are more than 3000 pairs... Interesting.

I haven't seen one over 4,000 though!
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Originally Posted by kellte2 View Post


I haven't seen one over 4,000 though!

 

Good point, maybe they decided to stop below/at 4000 (and not 3000) in the end.

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My guess is that they'll milk this until the K712 is stocked.

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Mine have number 003588...

 

I love them, even if they are prolific!
 

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Originally Posted by 3X0 View Post

My guess is that they'll milk this until the K712 is stocked.

 

Possibly... They really should re-do K1000. I mean not re-release but re-do!

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Originally Posted by RustA View Post

 

Possibly... They really should re-do K1000. I mean not re-release but re-do!

 

I'd be very interested in that...

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What genre are the K702 Anniv. best at?

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

I'd be very interested in that...

 

Yeah, definitely as well... After doing a broad research (including PMing you :-)) as well as asking other people and reading recent reviews on K1000 or K1000 vs HD800), I decided not to go for K1000 and stay with HD800. The majority of views favor HD800 and uncovered too many imperfections in sound of K1000 (quite surprisingly, I expected the soundstaging, imaging, separation and dynamics of K1000 to be near-to-perfect by design).

 

That said, if they invent better drivers...


Edited by RustA - 5/18/13 at 7:03am
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Originally Posted by soundeffect View Post

What genre are the K702 Anniv. best at?

Hmm, I consider the Annie to be an all rounder, not necessarily mastering any genre, but being great at many.

One thing I feel they do amazingly well is female vocals. Female vicals are very hard for headphones to get right, yet I felt the Annie was the best I've heard in that regard.
post #2520 of 3252
I'll take all rounders and great at female vocals, I'm excited, that's mostly what listen too. 1 more day.
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