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Tiny DAC, Big Sound – Impression of Stoner Acoustics UD100 vs. ODAC

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Stoner Acoustics is a fairly new start up by a DIY’er that has been pretty active in the local (Malaysia) audiophile community. By no mean his first project, the UD100 is however his first commercial product under the new company and it is aimed to deliver maximum bang for the buck sound quality with a minimalistic design for US$49

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Spec
TI PCM2706 (USB receiver) + ESS Sabre ES9023 (DAC)
Bit depth / Sampling Rate (max): 16bit / 48kHz
Output: 2Vrms line-out via 3.5mm stereo plug

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ES9023

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PCM2706

Build Quality
Okay, there is no housing on this tiny USB DAC. It would seem the production isn’t large enough to call for a plastic injection mold to be made (those things can be very expensive). Otherwise, the USB DAC is very well made. All the soldering points look to be quite solid.

For the worrying type, a simple heat shrink seem to suffice to shield the components from dust and direct moisture. If you are the handy DIY type, you can get a $1 TF card reader from eBay, take the inner out, drill a hole on the side and fit the USB DAC into it (see pictures blow).

Note that UD100 is just a USB DAC without any amp section, so you will need to supply your own amp if you want to use it. It doesn’t support Windows volume control as well, so it will be wise not to plug your headphone into its 3.5mm directly.

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A $1 TF card reader from eBay disassembled, next to UD100. See the similarity in size.

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UD100 in the TF card reader case.

Sound Quality
At first, I am a bit skeptical about the overall SQ of the UD100. I can understand it could be better than most of the PCM270x+WM8740 variance that I own, based on my ownership of the ODAC and the experience of the ESS Sabre chip. However, given its miniature size and what seems to be the missing of many components, I really thought this is just going to be an obvious step-down from the ODAC. Well, I was wrong.

The first thing I did when I received the UD100 is to measure it via RMAA. The setup is as followed: PC -> USD BAC -> O2 -> Behringer UCA222 (USB Isolated). Since UD100 only supports sampling rate of 16/48 max due to its USB receiver, both UD100 and ODAC are measured under 16/44.1 condition. As UD100 doesn’t support software volume control, I have to put the O2 in between the DAC and the UCA222. It shouldn’t affect the comparison though, since whatever effect it might have will be applied to both DAC, and I am only interested in the difference between the DAC. Surprisingly, the result is so close that the tiny bit of difference are either within a dB or two of each other or well under 0.1%. In fact, UD100 measured just a tiny bit better in most case, plus a slightly flatter and more extended frequency response over 18kHz. On a separated test, I also confirmed UD100, like ODAC, is outputting 2Vrms on its line-out that is default of the ESS chip.

As far as subjective listening goes, I compared both UD100 and ODAC feeding to O2 and a couple of IEM. All and all, I have a hard time trying to find a difference between the two USB DAC. Whatever difference I think I have heard is too small to say in certainty that they are not just in my brain. They are both clean, neutral with a good soundstage. At time, I can tell UD100 sounds just a little more crisp on certain instruments or ODAC gives just a little lusher detail, but they aren’t night and day. I think the reality is, it would have been even tougher to actually tell the two USB DAC apart during a blind listening. It that a good thing? I supposed so. I like my ODAC from JDS Labs. It is very well built and sounds great for the price. But for 1/3 of the price and almost just as good a sound, I can’t fault UD100 at all. Once I housed it in a $1 mod’ed TF card reader case, it looks and functions almost perfectly.

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ODAC (top) vs. UD100 (bottom)

Verdict
UD100 truly exceeds my expectation on how good a tiny sized USB DAC can sound. It is the poor-man’s ODAC, so to speak. While it doesn’t support 24/96 like the ODAC, it shouldn’t matter to those who don’t have any HD music files. For those who are looking for either big bang for the buck or just something simple to feed into your amp, I couldn’t recommend this tiny USB DAC enough.

A thank to Stoner Acoustics for the UD100 sample.
Edited by ClieOS - 9/9/12 at 7:42am
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Thanks for the very useful review. Most interesting.

 

I just ordered this. I love the idea of such a tiny plug-in DAC using the ES9023.


Edited by cooperpwc - 9/9/12 at 8:50am
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Awesome review! Have always been waiting to see the result of his project. Might be getting my hands on one of these soon :)

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24-bit support can still be useful for software volume control, equalization, or other DSP.

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--  (This interesting product deserves better than where this thread is going)


Edited by cooperpwc - 9/10/12 at 10:36am
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If you use Foobar, all such changes are calculated in software prior to output. So unless you are using 24 bit files, a 24-bit DAC will make no difference.

 

The internal processing may be high resolution, but since the DAC does not support anything higher than 16 bits, the signal will have to be dithered and quantized down to 16 bits at the end. Therefore, with -12 dB software volume, you will effectively have 14-bit audio, for example. Then again, that may still be good enough in practice with a dynamic range of ~84 dB.

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Sound Quality
The first thing I did when I received the UD100 is to measure it via RMAA. The setup is as followed: PC -> USD BAC -> O2 -> Behringer UCA222 (USB Isolated). Since UD100 only supports sampling rate of 16/48 max due to its USB receiver, both UD100 and ODAC are measured under 16/44.1 condition. As UD100 doesn’t support software volume control, I have to put the O2 in between the DAC and the UCA222. It shouldn’t affect the comparison though, since whatever effect it might have will be applied to both DAC, and I am only interested in the difference between the DAC. Surprisingly, the result is so close that the tiny bit of difference are either within a dB or two of each other or well under 0.1%. In fact, UD100 measured just a tiny bit better in most case, plus a slightly flatter and more extended frequency response over 18kHz. On a separated test, I also confirmed UD100, like ODAC, is outputting 2Vrms on its line-out that is default of the ESS chip.

 

Can you also post the RMAA results ? Although they are not very complete, and the software is buggy, it may still be interesting to compare them to the dScope measurements.

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Can you also post the RMAA results ? Although they are not very complete, and the software is buggy, it may still be interesting to compare them to the dScope measurements.

I can email the SAV files to anyone who are interested, but rather not posting the result since it could be very misleading to those who don't know the shortcoming of RMAA.
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I'm a sucker for tiny audio components.  I just ordered one.  I was going to go with ODAC because of the great value, but this seems to take the value even further.  Thanks for bringing this to our attention!

 

Any suggestions for an equally tiny yet very good headphone amp?  Will be driving relatively efficient full-sized headphones.  Am going to build an O2, but would like something even tinier to use as a portable laptop or tablet rig.


Edited by FraGGleR - 9/12/12 at 8:37am
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iBasso T5 comes into my mind - it doesn't have great build quality, but probably is one of the best sounding ultra-portable amp around. The problem is, it is pretty much as expensive as a fully built O2 and O2 sounds better. If you don't mind something more expensive, Leckerton UHA-4 is great as well but obviously bigger then T5.
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iBasso T5 comes into my mind - it doesn't have great build quality, but probably is one of the best sounding ultra-portable amp around. The problem is, it is pretty much as expensive as a fully built O2 and O2 sounds better. If you don't mind something more expensive, Leckerton UHA-4 is great as well but obviously bigger then T5.

Thanks, ClieOS.  I guess I want more than what technology can give me right now :)  It seems to be easier to build a good, super tiny DAC because of all the SMD stuff and low power, but a good amp still needs a good power circuit, etc.  I just ordered parts for an O2 and will probably stick this UD100 in the same enclosure and just be happy with that.  

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You are right. Unless we see breakthrough in battery technology, it will always be the main factor of limitation on how far we can shrink an amp down without losing significant quality.
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There needs to be an easier way to buy one...

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There needs to be an easier way to buy one...

 

It's not difficult really. I sent him an email. He replied right away with the shipping options. I told him my choice and he sent me a PayPal invoice which I paid. It was shipped the next day.

 

Communication was very good.


Edited by cooperpwc - 9/13/12 at 7:37am
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Same.  He answered emails surprisingly fast considering he is on the opposite side of the world from me.  He shipped mine the next day.  Unfortunately, I have to wait several weeks now :(  Patience isn't my strong suit.

 

But I agree that adding even a contact/order form to his blog in and obvious spot would be a step in the right direction.

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