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post #2101 of 3695

Nice, I may have to see if I could find a v1 to try for myself. I am really curious about it's sub bass boost and would like to compare it to my v2 to see which I'd prefer...

post #2102 of 3695
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post


Light and heavy is the wrong perception, the bass was boosted by the same dB in both revisions. May not be worth talking about the first revision anymore, but I am quite happy with mine. The current version peaks it's boost within the midbass, while the pre-release and early batches had the bass boost peak at sub bass, and I mean 20 Hz sub bass + 6dB. I liked that, more boost where most cans lack, and mine doesn't bleed into the mids at all.

Now, I do think the treble could be slightly above neutral... But that would be to an insignificant amount compared to the variance from headphone to headphone. I DON'T think the E12 creates the widest soundstage... Better than straight out of an iDevice and nicely round, in fact once you get used to it there is a great sense of layering space in front of you where instruments reside, but my tube amp (you remember it?) does increase soundstage further. Still may be enjoyable for you though.

Ahh and a lack of sound Stage would not be good xD. And yea I would love to get a 20hrz boost... that would be quite epic, and I can see why people liked the early version boost, a boost that deep is pretty thunderours 

 

But still I noticed that as well with the e11 vs the cMoy. E11 was great with the Open Dt 990, which already had a huge sound stage/ And the cMoy more so with the dt 880 which didn't quite have as big a sound stage

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Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post

Nice, I may have to see if I could find a v1 to try for myself. I am really curious about it's sub bass boost and would like to compare it to my v2 to see which I'd prefer...

Well that's what head fi meets are for! 

post #2103 of 3695
I would love to attend if there's ever one in central Florida. For now, I can only hope someone like Evs is willing to work something out... wink.gif
post #2104 of 3695
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Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post

I would love to attend if there's ever one in central Florida. For now, I can only hope someone like Evs is willing to work something out... wink.gif

I had a chance to get to one my self but I was too broke to go Dx

post #2105 of 3695
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I would love to attend if there's ever one in central Florida. For now, I can only hope someone like Evs is willing to work something out... wink.gif

XD
You know it's tempting, much as I love mine. I've been looking at the iDo, and selling the E12 would go a long way towards funding the other, and I do tend to use my $200 custom tube amp most often. Aaaaaaaaagh...

I'm also suffering a bit lately. Every once in a while, a new album comes out, and if I manage to get it on my radar and buy it, I tend to enjoy that a lot. But over the past few months, despite wanting to just relax and enjoy music, I find that I'm quickly bored and unsatisfied listening to music on typical-fi stuff. And then I just don't listen to the music. I tend to play videogames regardless, but (for example) I just don't enjoy Sirius XM radio (came with my car) because it's so compressed, it bugs me so much I don't like listening for very long. And if I'm watching a movie at my girlfriend's house, I have to turn on subtitles because I'm so used to understanding everything people say.

Basically, and without consciously choosing it, my Q701 headphones, and all my extra gear, have spoiled me.
post #2106 of 3695
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Ahh and a lack of sound Stage would not be good xD. And yea I would love to get a 20hrz boost... that would be quite epic, and I can see why people liked the early version boost, a boost that deep is pretty thunderous.
I wouldn't say it has a lack of soundstage. Compared to straight out from a headphone jack of the pretty decent iPod (video/classic, Touch, or iPad even) as a baseline, it has more sense soundstage than average. Just not as much as the best I've heard.

And indeed, a boost that deep is great and makes thunderous sounds more gripping, but keep in mind it doesn't significantly boost ALL bass, switching it on/off makes no difference to a song except with really low notes (and sometimes the sense of a large room, the ambient "air" in a large hall where you can sense bass resonance), so it might not be for someone looking for a fun effect, BUT at the same time that's what I loved about it: doesn't affect the mood and highlight of a song except when it digs really deep, so I can basically leave the boost turned on all the time. Still sounds great without it too, though.
post #2107 of 3695
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post


I wouldn't say it has a lack of soundstage. Compared to straight out from a headphone jack of the pretty decent iPod (video/classic, Touch, or iPad even) as a baseline, it has more sense soundstage than average. Just not as much as the best I've heard.

And indeed, a boost that deep is great and makes thunderous sounds more gripping, but keep in mind it doesn't significantly boost ALL bass, switching it on/off makes no difference to a song except with really low notes (and sometimes the sense of a large room, the ambient "air" in a large hall where you can sense bass resonance), so it might not be for someone looking for a fun effect, BUT at the same time that's what I loved about it: doesn't affect the mood and highlight of a song except when it digs really deep, so I can basically leave the boost turned on all the time. Still sounds great without it too, though.

I saw that you have your lying around at home <3 I'd love to try it :D 

 

If it's like the E11 then I'd love to see what's gotten better ^^

post #2108 of 3695
Just got this beast.

Not a fan of the input placements. The front plate is too damn busy, and I find my fingers crashing into the headphone and input cables when I adjust the very tough volume knob. The side USB port just BAFFLES me. Should've been on the opposite end from where the headphone jack is. The Analog input should've also been on the same side as the USB.

Amps really shouldn't have anything in the front except the headphone jack, volume, and option power button... Ah well..

It kind of ruins the E12's beauty when all these cables are all in your face... it's gaudy.

At least the thing sounds clean as all hell and has all this power...

Waiting for Fiio to make a dac/amp with the E12's power, async USB/SPDIF, and hopefully a lower sub bass boost. I'll immediately sell the E12 for that.

I missed out on the original E12, which sounded more ideal to me. They should've given buyers the option on which bass boost you'd like. can't have everything, and I feel they gave into the typical consumer, and not audiophiles.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 8/6/13 at 5:59am
post #2109 of 3695
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Just got this beast.

Not a fan of the input placements. The front plate is too damn busy, and I find my fingers crashing into the headphone and input cables when I adjust the very tough volume knob. The side USB port just BAFFLES me. Should've been on the opposite end from where the headphone jack is. The Analog input should've also been on the same side as the USB.

Amps really shouldn't have anything in the front except the headphone jack, volume, and option power button... Ah well..

It kind of ruins the E12's beauty when all these cables are all in your face... it's gaudy.

At least the thing sounds clean as all hell and has all this power...

Waiting for Fiio to make a dac/amp with the E12's power, async USB/SPDIF, and hopefully a lower sub bass boost. I'll immediately sell the E12 for that.

I missed out on the original E12, which sounded more ideal to me. They should've given buyers the option on which bass boost you'd like. can't have everything, and I feel they gave into the typical consumer, and not audiophiles.

I personally prefer a portable amp with both inputs and outputs on the same side. For me it makes it more portable but I understand people that prefer it the other way around. That's been one of the requirements in any of my recent portable amp solutions.

post #2110 of 3695
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Just got this beast.

Not a fan of the input placements. The front plate is too damn busy, and I find my fingers crashing into the headphone and input cables when I adjust the very tough volume knob. The side USB port just BAFFLES me. Should've been on the opposite end from where the headphone jack is. The Analog input should've also been on the same side as the USB.

Amps really shouldn't have anything in the front except the headphone jack, volume, and option power button... Ah well..

It kind of ruins the E12's beauty when all these cables are all in your face... it's gaudy.

At least the thing sounds clean as all hell and has all this power...

Waiting for Fiio to make a dac/amp with the E12's power, async USB/SPDIF, and hopefully a lower sub bass boost. I'll immediately sell the E12 for that.

I missed out on the original E12, which sounded more ideal to me. They should've given buyers the option on which bass boost you'd like. can't have everything, and I feel they gave into the typical consumer, and not audiophiles.
Yeah. Placement of the interface is less than ideal. But you get used to how to use it after a while.

I believe the E19 or X5 may be what you are looking for
post #2111 of 3695
The headphone input and source input is weird since every other amp has them placed in the opposite way; headphone port on the outside, source on the inside.
post #2112 of 3695
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

The headphone input and source input is weird since every other amp has them placed in the opposite way; headphone port on the outside, source on the inside.

I respectfully disagree with you on this one ... There are a lot of portable amps that have them on the same side

 

ALO continental, national, international

Pico Power, Slim

Tralucent T1

C&C BH

Leckerton Audio

RSA Blackbird

etc etc.

post #2113 of 3695
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Originally Posted by martybm5 View Post

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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

The headphone input and source input is weird since every other amp has them placed in the opposite way; headphone port on the outside, source on the inside.

I respectfully disagree with you on this one ... There are a lot of portable amps that have them on the same side

 

ALO continental, national, international

Pico Power, Slim

Tralucent T1

C&C BH

Leckerton Audio

RSA Blackbird

etc etc.

I think you misinterpreted my statement...that or I just worded it really poorly. XD

 

E12:

[   (O)   (O)      (   O   )     ]

Input, Headphone, Potentiometer

 

 

Most amps have it:

[   (O)   (O)      (   O   )     ]

Headphone, Input, Potentiometer

 

Like this:

 

This:

 

This:

 

This:

 

 

Not this:

post #2114 of 3695

Yeah, the inverted input/headphone in on the E12 throws me off all the time

post #2115 of 3695
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

I think you misinterpreted my statement...that or I just worded it really poorly. XD

 

E12:

[   (O)   (O)      (   O   )     ]

Input, Headphone, Potentiometer

 

 

Most amps have it:

[   (O)   (O)      (   O   )     ]

Headphone, Input, Potentiometer

 

 

Ahhh I see what you're referring to .....

 

You are absolutely correct regarding that aspect. (honestly never paid it much attention)

 

Just to be clear, my initial response was for @Mad Lust Envy, who seems to take exception that both input and output are on the same side, which to me is a preference and not a liability.

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