[pandastyle]

Be patient. He has a life outside of his computer and he is making those cables. Only so many hours in the day. He will get back to you soon enough. I am getting Reign 24 for me he6 and could not be happier with the support I got from him.

 
Oh yeah, he PMed me like five minutes after I posted that and it turned out he had missed my email. Anyway, Skuld 2 on the way for my LCD-2s.

 

[Cante Ista]

Glad it worked out for you! I know it would! Enjoy you Norse cable!

 

[disastermouse]

So...should I take it that since I've been through at least five pages on this thread an not seen anything even approximating...I dunno pricing - that these cable are an 'if you have to ask the price, you can't afford it' sort of thing?
 
Why U no have prices easily accessible?

 

[preproman]

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So...should I take it that since I've been through at least five pages on this thread an not seen anything even approximating...I dunno pricing - that these cable are an 'if you have to ask the price, you can't afford it' sort of thing?
 
Why U no have prices easily accessible?

 
It's more of a personal thing through email.  
 
Things like:  
How long,  What connectors at the cup, What kind of termination.  Do you want a DIY cable.  What type of sleeve, Heck What size cable - 4 conductor, 8 conductor or 24 conductor.  Norn, Skuld, Reign.?
 
Contact Trevor and discuss your needs.  He will give you a more than fair price.  

 

[gjc11028]

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So...should I take it that since I've been through at least five pages on this thread an not seen anything even approximating...I dunno pricing - that these cable are an 'if you have to ask the price, you can't afford it' sort of thing?
 
Why U no have prices easily accessible?

 
He emails the prices.  He seems nice and responds quickly.  They are not more expensive the a the other cable sellers and cheaper than some.  Most of the prices are in the 200's.  the reign s are more for more conductors.  

 

[disastermouse]

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He emails the prices.  He seems nice and responds quickly.  They are not more expensive the a the other cable sellers and cheaper than some.  Most of the prices are in the 200's.  the reign s are more for more conductors.  

I've noticed that a lot of the cable makers have this weird 'email for price' thing going on.  Is that just tradition?  Is it so that they can accommodate more individualized requests?  Or is it because of the cachet of ordering something specifically crafted and hand-made for you - and email brings that personal hand-crafted, just-for-you service that differentiates?
 
I'm just curious because it's kept me from even looking at cables for a while.  I want to know what I'm aiming at cost-wise and then let my pragmatism and caprice battle it out in my head.  If I ask for a range of prices, then I have to get info on what delineates each line and option and I feel like I may be wasting the seller's time if pragmatism DOES win out (it's rare, but it happens).

 

[Cante Ista]

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I've noticed that a lot of the cable makers have this weird 'email for price' thing going on.  Is that just tradition?  Is it so that they can accommodate more individualized requests?  Or is it because of the cachet of ordering something specifically crafted and hand-made for you - and email brings that personal hand-crafted, just-for-you service that differentiates?
 
I'm just curious because it's kept me from even looking at cables for a while.  I want to know what I'm aiming at cost-wise and then let my pragmatism and caprice battle it out in my head.  If I ask for a range of prices, then I have to get info on what delineates each line and option and I feel like I may be wasting the seller's time if pragmatism DOES win out (it's rare, but it happens).

I have cables from ALO, Moon Audio and Reign 24 coming. For what Norse audio offers the price is fair.

 

[ninjames]

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I've noticed that a lot of the cable makers have this weird 'email for price' thing going on.  Is that just tradition?  Is it so that they can accommodate more individualized requests?  Or is it because of the cachet of ordering something specifically crafted and hand-made for you - and email brings that personal hand-crafted, just-for-you service that differentiates?
 
I'm just curious because it's kept me from even looking at cables for a while.  I want to know what I'm aiming at cost-wise and then let my pragmatism and caprice battle it out in my head.  If I ask for a range of prices, then I have to get info on what delineates each line and option and I feel like I may be wasting the seller's time if pragmatism DOES win out (it's rare, but it happens).

I'm not sure as to why the prices aren't more generalized and all of that. What I can tell you is that I emailed Trevor of Norse Audio with an email that was probably close to about 600 words, with tons and tons of newbie questions and concerns and he responded later that night addressing every single one of my points.

 

[gjc11028]

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I've noticed that a lot of the cable makers have this weird 'email for price' thing going on.  Is that just tradition?  Is it so that they can accommodate more individualized requests?  Or is it because of the cachet of ordering something specifically crafted and hand-made for you - and email brings that personal hand-crafted, just-for-you service that differentiates?
 
I'm just curious because it's kept me from even looking at cables for a while.  I want to know what I'm aiming at cost-wise and then let my pragmatism and caprice battle it out in my head.  If I ask for a range of prices, then I have to get info on what delineates each line and option and I feel like I may be wasting the seller's time if pragmatism DOES win out (it's rare, but it happens).

 
I share some of the frustration.  Unlike most things in audio, it is pretty hard to find any real comparisons between the different cables.  The norse price list I got was pretty complete but not sure why it is not on the web site.  The toxic cable site does not have the newer cablles or prices, but you can find them if you hunt through some if the threads.  Seems odd but it must work for them.

 

[alota]

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I share some of the frustration.  Unlike most things in audio, it is pretty hard to find any real comparisons between the different cables.  The norse price list I got was pretty complete but not sure why it is not on the web site.  The toxic cable site does not have the newer cablles or prices, but you can find them if you hunt through some if the threads.  Seems odd but it must work for them.

well... is true that in the site doesn´t exist a price list.
and is true that the site has more informations about the cables only recently.
but....trevor is a very, very, very kind person,the cables are quality and the quality/price relationship is really incredible.
i think that is the most important thing, right???
p.s.: and customer care is very good

 

[disastermouse]

well... is true that in the site doesn´t exist a price list.
and is true that the site has more informations about the cables only recently.
but....trevor is a very, very, very kind person,the cables are quality and the quality/price relationship is really incredible.
i think that is the most important thing, right???
p.s.: and customer care is very good

I'm not doubting it - they look amazing too. It's just a weird convention of the trade that there is no flat out price list. Amps have MSRPs, headphones have MSRPs - and they usually have reliable street prices. Yet cables are this esoteric side branch and more of an 'insider' community.

 

[alota]

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I'm not doubting it - they look amazing too. It's just a weird convention of the trade that there is no flat out price list. Amps have MSRPs, headphones have MSRPs - and they usually have reliable street prices. Yet cables are this esoteric side branch and more of an 'insider' community.

i understand perfectly your thinking.
is true that exist many, many builders in the cables sector.
when i started my experience with headphones the situation was different.
but is builders like norseaudio, toxic cables, etc.that allowed people to buy cables with a lower price and good quality(like 7N up-occ copper)
in the past there where only builders with expensive cables like zuaudio, aloaudio, stefanaudioart, etc.
in the middle i put moonaudio: high quality, price not cheap but not too expensive and relationship with drew "strictly" commercial
p.s.: i forgot one thing:for me it is unthinkable to spend in a cable more compared with the price of the headphone

 

[TigzStudio]

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First off I always appreciate feedback and thoughts, so thank you guys! 
 
One of the main reasons I have been a fan of the email method is it is more tailored and you can discuss all the different factors or needs in each scenario.  It just feels like providing maybe a bit improved service when you can do this with everyone.  When it does go the way of the store / button route I will certainly have the "email for questions" option right near the buttons as well as the phone number.  
 
Overall I have no problem putting up our price list on the pages (they don't change once established after introductory period). 
This is just the first time I have seen more criticism or discussion about pricing being only in emails. 
 
But once again I do appreciate the feedback, I will make sure to get these up when the next page updates go out. 

 

[disastermouse]

First off I always appreciate feedback and thoughts, so thank you guys! 

One of the main reasons I have been a fan of the email method is it is more tailored and you can discuss all the different factors or needs in each scenario.  It just feels like providing maybe a bit improved service when you can do this with everyone.  When it does go the way of the store / button route I will certainly have the "email for questions" option right near the buttons as well as the phone number.  

Overall I have no problem putting up our price list on the pages (they don't change once established after introductory period). 
This is just the first time I have seen more criticism or discussion about pricing being only in emails. 

But once again I do appreciate the feedback, I will make sure to get these up when the next page updates go out. 

It's not really intended as criticism, and I kind of figured it was a boutique kind of thing - like 'These are made especially for you and so we need to have a conversation about what you want and what I make' - like a personal collaborative process.

I aspire to be an Industrial Designer and so I'm more interested in the ways things are used and thought of and how that's affected their marketing. Beautiful and well made things in general sort of get me thinking regardless of whether I'm the intended customer.

 

[jrhill]

I, too, find it quite a surprise that in the whole length of this thread, there is no actual description of the different characteristics/sound of each particular type of cable - plenty of how many conductors in a variety of multiple wires, etc, etc but no actual comparison of the different sound of the cables on the same headphones (apart from "better", that is).
 
So, for the uninformed, why would the Skuld, Norn or Rhein of some particular number of wires, strands, treatment, plait method, etc, etc  be a better cable for, say, the AKG k701 driven by a high current follower amp for a wide variety of music.  And, what is a "better" cable anyway? 
 
   I'm waiting for costing about diy cables, but I still have no way of choosing one particular type of cable over the other -  it's quite frustrating, and I'll probably end up choosing a cable on cost, not quality - not exactly a good recipe for aural success.
 
How do you make any sort of informed guess?