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post #1396 of 2136

Well, the AS-2 custom fit are pretty different than the universal fit ie800. Dale Lott has said on hf that he's re-tuning the treble and changing the bass with a new vent in the future, so comparisons can only be with how the AS-2 I have sounds.

 

I'd say the AS-2 (non-acrylic shell) is the lightest custom I've ever tried. The cable is replaceable and you can wear it comfortably with no microphonics on the stock cable (or replacement cables I've used from Toxic Cables, for that matter). The ie800 is unusable if you're 6 feet tall or over because you'll have trouble wearing it over-ear, which due to the massive microphonics is the only way to go. The AS-2 or universal fit ASG-2 is a better value and some will like the tuning better, although the ie800 is amazing in terms of the sound a single 7mm micro dynamic can produce.

 

The AS-2 for now has more mid-bass than sub-bass, a warm, thick sound, lifted vocal range and with a treble that's been adjusted to stage use so it's non-fatiguing. The ie800, after only a few days listening and I'm sure my take on it will change, has way more sub-bass, less midbass, a clear midrange and vocal range that lacks edginess and warmth. People are calling it "dry", which might be a good description. I am used to stage monitors that bump the vocal range and add liveliness, but so far I don't hear it as having a deadened sound.  The treble was as people described it the first time I put it in my ears (people described it as non-sibilant but having a tizzy, thin quality--it sounded like a twfk armature to me), but the next day, perhaps due to getting a better fit or the non-woven filter, I found it was no longer a problem. The issue was lessened to the point where it didn't distract (I also let them burn in at 110db or so for a few nights). Actually, I tried without the filter now and things are okay. It's definitely a tuning with a certain character, but one that might be very attractive to many people. I've noticed, maybe you have, that although several people have ended up selling or not liking their ie800 on head-fi, they tend to say that when they let their non-hf friends listen to their top iems, the ie800 is usually the favorite! There's something to that. The ie800 is more technically capable and if you can wear it over-ear, it sounds as good or better than anything in-ear custom or universal that I've heard (at least, in my honeymoon phase! Maybe later it'll be different).

post #1397 of 2136

are you friggin’ kidding me? edit that crap post, lol

post #1398 of 2136

wtf is that. I stop scrolling using my mouse LOL. Had to use the scroll bar to go to the bottom instantly lol

Doing is once is enough... wow

post #1399 of 2136
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Originally Posted by Kunlun View Post

...they tend to say that when they let their non-hf friends listen to their top iems, the ie800 is usually the favorite!...

If I haven't already, I'd like to report this exact result. They even comment that $999 doesn't sound too crazy, people who have spent no more than $30 on earphones before, which floored me.
post #1400 of 2136
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Originally Posted by Kunlun View Post

Well, the AS-2 custom fit are pretty different than the universal fit ie800. Dale Lott has said on hf that he's re-tuning the treble and changing the bass with a new vent in the future, so comparisons can only be with how the AS-2 I have sounds.

 

I'd say the AS-2 (non-acrylic shell) is the lightest custom I've ever tried. The cable is replaceable and you can wear it comfortably with no microphonics on the stock cable (or replacement cables I've used from Toxic Cables, for that matter). The ie800 is unusable if you're 6 feet tall or over because you'll have trouble wearing it over-ear, which due to the massive microphonics is the only way to go. The AS-2 or universal fit ASG-2 is a better value and some will like the tuning better, although the ie800 is amazing in terms of the sound a single 7mm micro dynamic can produce.

 

The AS-2 for now has more mid-bass than sub-bass, a warm, thick sound, lifted vocal range and with a treble that's been adjusted to stage use so it's non-fatiguing. The ie800, after only a few days listening and I'm sure my take on it will change, has way more sub-bass, less midbass, a clear midrange and vocal range that lacks edginess and warmth. People are calling it "dry", which might be a good description. I am used to stage monitors that bump the vocal range and add liveliness, but so far I don't hear it as having a deadened sound.  The treble was as people described it the first time I put it in my ears (people described it as non-sibilant but having a tizzy, thin quality--it sounded like a twfk armature to me), but the next day, perhaps due to getting a better fit or the non-woven filter, I found it was no longer a problem. The issue was lessened to the point where it didn't distract (I also let them burn in at 110db or so for a few nights). Actually, I tried without the filter now and things are okay. It's definitely a tuning with a certain character, but one that might be very attractive to many people. I've noticed, maybe you have, that although several people have ended up selling or not liking their ie800 on head-fi, they tend to say that when they let their non-hf friends listen to their top iems, the ie800 is usually the favorite! There's something to that. The ie800 is more technically capable and if you can wear it over-ear, it sounds as good or better than anything in-ear custom or universal that I've heard (at least, in my honeymoon phase! Maybe later it'll be different).

If the AS-2 is more mid-bassy than the IE800, I have a hard time believing I'd prefer it. I already find the IE800 south of neutral, I can't imagine something thicker even basshead.gif

post #1401 of 2136

The IE800 bass boost is more in the rumbly, sub bass area. there is some mid bass emphasis but not much and I’ve heard lots of headphones and earphones with much more mid bass punch that then seeps into the the lower mids.

post #1402 of 2136

I got a pair of these yesterday. I am burning them in a also periodically listening to them. Maybe I was expecting too much but I'm really not impressed so far with these. The bass does sound good but not great. The highs are too high. I did the teabag trick and they do sound better but I sit here and think that if I have to put teabag paper on $1000 IEM's, then these need to go back.

 

They do sound better than my Westone 4R but not by much.

 

I'll give it some more time.

Ken

post #1403 of 2136
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Originally Posted by ken6217 View Post

I got a pair of these yesterday. I am burning them in a also periodically listening to them. Maybe I was expecting too much but I'm really not impressed so far with these. The bass does sound good but not great. The highs are too high. I did the teabag trick and they do sound better but I sit here and think that if I have to put teabag paper on $1000 IEM's, then these need to go back.

 

They do sound better than my Westone 4R but not by much.

 

I'll give it some more time.

Ken

Give it some time to do it's brain burn onto you, it took me awhile to be frank.

Regarding general people thinking the IE800s does sound the best, it's probably the bass that attracted them, however I love them for the mid range clarity, something I have not heard of even in big cans.

post #1404 of 2136

One day later of buying them in and they sound much better. Definitely better than my Westone 4R.

 

I did however pick up a par of Shure 846 this morning. The store gives a 30 day refund if not happy so it's a no brainer.

 

I'll burn these in as well as make a comparison.

Ken

post #1405 of 2136

Really looking forward to your comparison!

post #1406 of 2136
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Originally Posted by ken6217 View Post

One day later of buying them in and they sound much better. Definitely better than my Westone 4R.

 

I did however pick up a par of Shure 846 this morning. The store gives a 30 day refund if not happy so it's a no brainer.

 

I'll burn these in as well as make a comparison.

Ken

Keep us posted my friend. If you can include comparisons with songs, that would be very useful too.

post #1407 of 2136
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Originally Posted by ken6217 View Post

One day later of buying them in and they sound much better. Definitely better than my Westone 4R.

 

I did however pick up a par of Shure 846 this morning. The store gives a 30 day refund if not happy so it's a no brainer.

 

I'll burn these in as well as make a comparison.

Ken

I have heard both and I'll just keep a short impression of how I felt about the two.

 

Straight out of the box, the SE846 sounds very balanced to me, in a sense it doesn't lack or overpower in much frequencies.

The SE846 is surprisingly bassy to me, but I wasn't sure of the filter I was on at the point of time. The mids are lush with more body 

compared to the IE800s. However IE800 still has the sweeter and clearer midrange but lacks a kind of body the se846 had.

Treble are more prominent on se846 too as ie800 has quite some thin treble, but this is not much of a concern.

 

SE846's bass is focused on midbass, so is a lot more CIEMs in  the market, IE800s, by being able to keep it's bass within the sub bass

region, is able to project a very clear midrange. This is something I haven't seen much in top end iems or ciems, most of the time I feel a

compromise between bass and clarity, but the IE800 does change the game and my thinking.

 

SE846 is a very good iem to my ears, technically I would rate them just slightly below ie800s after u have done the needed mods and EQ on the ie800s.

But SE846 out of the box was better, more balance in the overall frequencies unlike bass hump on the ie800s.

 

However take my impressions as a pinch of salt because I do own the IE800s afterall, the se846 was a brief audition.

post #1408 of 2136

I will post in a couple of days after more burning in. However I have at least 50 hours on both the 846 and IE800's and up to this point, the Senn's will be staying with me and the Shure's will be going back to the store.

 

The IE800's are so more pleasing to listen to. The 846's don't sound that much better than the half a dozen or so IEM's that I have bought and sold in the $500 range in the past. 

 

I'll go back and A-B them in a couple more days.

Ken

post #1409 of 2136

Anyone in Australia want a bargain on these,only $793 shipped and a 30 day change of mind policy.. good price.

Wish I saw this before I bought mine.

Not sure if they sell overseas.

 

http://www.crazysales.com.au/sennheiser-ie-800-in-ear-earphones.html


Edited by bolinao - 8/29/13 at 1:09am
post #1410 of 2136
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Originally Posted by bolinao View Post

Anyone in Australia want a bargain on these,only $793 shipped and a 30 day change of mind policy.. good price.

Wish I saw this before I bought mine.

Not sure if they sell overseas.

 

http://www.crazysales.com.au/sennheiser-ie-800-in-ear-earphones.html

 

 

The website had this claim

 

This item is an authentic parallel-import 

 

What is an authentic parallel import? Wikipedia had this to say about it. 

 

A parallel import is a non-counterfeit product imported from another country without the permission of the intellectual property owner. Parallel imports are often referred to as grey product, and are implicated in issues of international trade, and intellectual property.[1]

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