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Just came back from the Audio & AV show in Melbourne, had a listen to the TH600, TH900, HD800, Abyss, LCD-X, LCD-3. I liked the LCD-3 best. The LCD-X has more volume than the LCD-3, hard to A/B them because the volume changes initially. LCD-3 I liked better, it had a sweeter sound, the LCD-X seemed more sterile but both are excellent. The TH600 I didn't like that much, the TH900 was very good but I liked the HD800 and all the planars better. The Abyss was getting all the attention but it was nothing special to me. The HD800 surprised me, last time I heard it I didn't like it at all but this time it was great. Still don't feel the urge to upgrade from the HE400 though. Maybe one day if they break it will give me an excuse to get the LCD-3.

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Just came back from the Audio & AV show in Melbourne, had a listen to the TH600, TH900, HD800, Abyss, LCD-X, LCD-3. I liked the LCD-3 best. The LCD-X has more volume than the LCD-3, hard to A/B them because the volume changes initially. LCD-3 I liked better, it had a sweeter sound, the LCD-X seemed more sterile but both are excellent. The TH600 I didn't like that much, the TH900 was very good but I liked the HD800 and all the planars better. The Abyss was getting all the attention but it was nothing special to me. The HD800 surprised me, last time I heard it I didn't like it at all but this time it was great. Still don't feel the urge to upgrade from the HE400 though. Maybe one day if they break it will give me an excuse to get the LCD-3.
What kind of music did you listen to?
post #13818 of 17961
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What kind of music did you listen to?

 

 They were playing Frank Sinatra.

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 They were playing Frank Sinatra.

ooooooh Sinatra on the HE 400... man that does sound good 

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Just came back from the Audio & AV show in Melbourne, had a listen to the TH600, TH900, HD800, Abyss, LCD-X, LCD-3. I liked the LCD-3 best. The LCD-X has more volume than the LCD-3, hard to A/B them because the volume changes initially. LCD-3 I liked better, it had a sweeter sound, the LCD-X seemed more sterile but both are excellent. The TH600 I didn't like that much, the TH900 was very good but I liked the HD800 and all the planars better. The Abyss was getting all the attention but it was nothing special to me. The HD800 surprised me, last time I heard it I didn't like it at all but this time it was great. Still don't feel the urge to upgrade from the HE400 though. Maybe one day if they break it will give me an excuse to get the LCD-3.

 

Given the price the lcd3 should sound the best. I heard all those at the Atlanta meet, and IMO the lcd3 was only marginally better than the lcd2. There would be no way that I'd pay that much extra money for it TBH. There were aspects about the lcd2 signature that I actually liked better. 

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I don't find the Momentum boomy at all (though next to the HE-400...bass is definitely not as good). It sounds warm, for sure, and the mids are rich and tonally accurate (IMHO), but it's a LOVELY, LOVELY headphone. If only the pads were larger to actually allow ears to fit inside. Most people won't get a good fit because the ears are resting on the pads..

 

Yes I agree, if Sennheiser would just release a Momentum which was 30-50% physically bigger and had more soundstage that would be a excellent headphone, as they are they are now they are just too damn small.

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Me coming from the HE-400 and T1 and then listening to the Momentum and thinking it was boomy is probably the same as people coming off the HD800 and thinking the LCD2 to be boomy.  All relevancies. 

 

I think those HD800 guys are wrong though.  :evil:


Edited by TMRaven - 10/20/13 at 5:56am
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Given the price the lcd3 should sound the best. I heard all those at the Atlanta meet, and IMO the lcd3 was only marginally better than the lcd2. There would be no way that I'd pay that much extra money for it TBH. There were aspects about the lcd2 signature that I actually liked better. 
^ agreed. Though HD800 or even HE500 over both for me.
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Dang, the hd800 is just one hp that I haven't gotten to spend any time with. Some day....

post #13825 of 17961
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Dang, the hd800 is just one hp that I haven't gotten to spend any time with. Some day....

U could sell all ur stuff and finally dive into it! 

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There's just no way that I'd make that kind of blind leap without a weeks audition first. I just can't seem to find anyone who'll swap hp's with me for a week. :rolleyes:

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There's just no way that I'd make that kind of blind leap without a weeks audition first. I just can't seem to find anyone who'll swap hp's with me for a week. :rolleyes:

I spent a week with them, at first listen I was wondering why anyone in their right mind would like them, was very cold and sterile sounding to my ears (almost too accurate), but yet I was drawn to them for some reason, by day three I was loving what I heard.  The sound absolutely comes from the front and back of you rather then the sides . The bass is accurate, tight and controlled, nothing I own comes close to them in that respect. The sound stage was massive. The highs were a bit cold and sterile to my ears, but I just came off an Lcd-2 kick for like two months.

 

I did not have that moment of chills when a good vocal comes in the way the 650/Lcd-2 hits me every so often, but I definitely liked them a bunch and almost pulled off a major trade(lots of my collection) for them. I am glad he changed his mind, once I got back the loaned Lcd-2 it was like seeing an old friend, I missed the warmth and intimacy of the vocals and the(maybe a tad inaccurate) bass and mids.

 

No other head phone I have ever owned/heard has the precision of presentation that I heard while auditioning the HD800, but like I said I did not have that "moment where the hairs stand up" that I get from some of my other cans.

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I really wanna try the HD800, probably more than the TH900.
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I spent a week with them, at first listen I was wondering why anyone in their right mind would like them, was very cold and sterile sounding to my ears (almost too accurate), but yet I was drawn to them for some reason, by day three I was loving what I heard.  The sound absolutely comes from the front and back of you rather then the sides . The bass is accurate, tight and controlled, nothing I own comes close to them in that respect. The sound stage was massive. The highs were a bit cold and sterile to my ears, but I just came off an Lcd-2 kick for like two months.

 

I did not have that moment of chills when a good vocal comes in the way the 650/Lcd-2 hits me every so often, but I definitely liked them a bunch and almost pulled off a major trade(lots of my collection) for them. I am glad he changed his mind, once I got back the loaned Lcd-2 it was like seeing an old friend, I missed the warmth and intimacy of the vocals and the(maybe a tad inaccurate) bass and mids.

 

No other head phone I have ever owned/heard has the precision of presentation that I heard while auditioning the HD800, but like I said I did not have that "moment where the hairs stand up" that I get from some of my other cans.

This is basically why I haven't gone after the hd800. The most important part of the signature is the mids. Vocals are the things that really do it for me, followed by deep extended bass with good texture. Treble is by far the least important aspect for me. I like treble that is a touch darker. With all that said, the 650 is right in my wheel house. 

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This is basically why I haven't gone after the hd800. The most important part of the signature is the mids. Vocals are the things that really do it for me, followed by deep extended bass with good texture. Treble is by far the least important aspect for me. I like treble that is a touch darker. With all that said, the 650 is right in my wheel house.

 

There is no contest between the HD650 and the HD800 IMO. Mids are too lush for me on the HD650 and the HD800 has much better bass.

I think the HD800 is my 2nd favorite headphone now behind the LCD3. They had the HD800 on the Abyss balanced setup. Didn't get a good look at it at the time but I tracked down a pic of it on the net.

 

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Looks like the Cavalli Liquid Gold, it sounded great. I also listened to it at the Senn room on the Senn amp but didn't like it there that much. Too bad there was no Hifiman or Stax to listen to. When I got home, still felt satisfied with the HE400, but would love both the LCD3 and HD800.

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