[davidsh]

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Ok I just stuck the foam rings back in because the sound became congested. I think it has to do with the spacing of the ears and yeah it may impact treble somewhat, I didn't notice much. But removing the foam and thus placing the ears closer to the drivers DEFINITELY impacted the overall sound negatively. 
 
I would recommend not doing the foam mod ALONE. 

I'd tend to agree with you, but it makes the bass bloom more (dunno if that is the correct term), and you have to get used to that. I had to... Personally, I think it is better w/o the foam rings, but I did like the drier and less intimate/congested bass with the foam rings better.. As I remember, but that was months ago... And with the HE-500 btw.

 

[nicholars]

You need to do the damping mods and remove the rings... With just the rings removed it does not have the same effect, as you say it is possibly worse if you just remove the foam spacers and do not do any mods.

 

[mogulmaster]

Good idea Thujone, thank you

 

[mogulmaster]

Alright sorry guys for posting a lot.

Even when I eq (in iTunes -10db for 8k range) I still get that tizz in the treble that makes me wince with pain. Although it is significantly reduced.

My he400 has about 40 hrs on her. Should I wait out til the 150? Will that tizz go away some? My ears just ring a lot more (I have tinnitus) when I listen to these.

I was thinking about switching to the 500 or return and wait out til I can afford LCD2.

My ears I guess just cannot handle distortion in the treble.

See, I can't jergmod bc I may need to return the headphones if the tizz doesn't go away.

Thoughts?

 

[nicholars]

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Alright sorry guys for posting a lot.

Even when I eq (in iTunes -10db for 8k range) I still get that tizz in the treble that makes me wince with pain. Although it is significantly reduced.

My he400 has about 40 hrs on her. Should I wait out til the 150? Will that tizz go away some? My ears just ring a lot more (I have tinnitus) when I listen to these.

I was thinking about switching to the 500 or return and wait out til I can afford LCD2.

My ears I guess just cannot handle distortion in the treble.

See, I can't jergmod bc I may need to return the headphones if the tizz doesn't go away.

Thoughts?

 
Jergmod + EQ makes it a lot better. Although I am sure that the LCD2 will be better.

 

[Mani ATH 87]

Alright sorry guys for posting a lot.

Even when I eq (in iTunes -10db for 8k range) I still get that tizz in the treble that makes me wince with pain. Although it is significantly reduced.

My he400 has about 40 hrs on her. Should I wait out til the 150? Will that tizz go away some? My ears just ring a lot more (I have tinnitus) when I listen to these.

I was thinking about switching to the 500 or return and wait out til I can afford LCD2.

My ears I guess just cannot handle distortion in the treble.

See, I can't jergmod bc I may need to return the headphones if the tizz doesn't go away.

Thoughts?

If your eqing the treble spikes down 10db and the tizz still bothers you, maybe try speakers lol. I don't really notice the treble spikes after dropping 4db.

 

[TMRaven]

Don't EQ the 8db region in iTunes down so much, you only get a limited number of bars, and EQ'ing 10db down at 8khz will most likely affect all your midrange up to 8khz.  Try EQ'ing 16khz down 8db and 8khz down by maybe 4-6db.
 
That's still too drastic for my taste but it should be better.

 

[reiserFS]

Sorry about your wallet 

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You guys have convinced me - I just ordered my pair  

 

[Mani ATH 87]

What type of EQ are people using with the HE-400?

I've seen a few posts in here, most seem to tone the treble down somewhat, I'm included in that group:
 


I obviously have a preference towards a warmer sound 

 

[realityhas]

Here's mine
Seems to work perfectly, but I'm open to suggestions.

 

[Bogatyr]

What type of EQ are people using with the HE-400?

I've seen a few posts in here, most seem to tone the treble down somewhat, I'm included in that group:
 


I obviously have a preference towards a warmer sound 

 

 
I have the same thing with same equalizer going on as you do, minus the 1khz dip I think the mids in HE-400 are golden and are best left untouched.

 
I even use the same EQ setting with Q701 as I find those too bright as well.

 

[wje]

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Or the HD580

 

 
Yes, but for only a few bucks more, one could opt for the newer HD-600 with the better grills and better drivers.  IMO, people tend to overprice the HD-580.  I've owned the model twice, but just can't put my finger on it as to what I didn't like.  There is one HD-580 that I would consider though if the price was good - that would be the HD-580 "Jubilee" edition.  Though, they are about as rare to find as the Sennheiser Orpheus.

 

[Thujone]

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Yes, but for only a few bucks more, one could opt for the newer HD-600 with the better grills and better drivers.  IMO, people tend to overprice the HD-580.  I've owned the model twice, but just can't put my finger on it as to what I didn't like.  There is one HD-580 that I would consider though if the price was good - that would be the HD-580 "Jubilee" edition.  Though, they are about as rare to find as the Sennheiser Orpheus.

I got the 580's over the 600's since my buddy owns the 600's and the 580's prove to be a much better painting project 

. They are overpriced though. I managed to get my used pair for $170, but I had to replace the pads which put them at about $240. Oh well, I like the look better than the 600's, very goofy.

 

[mogulmaster]

Head-fi'ers that helped me with the tizz issue: I've been using the EQ -6db at 8k, and the pain has subsided completely. Thank you very much. 
 
I'd also like to announce my dear love for the he400. The sound is remarkable. Do you think it would be worth the extra 300 for the 500 since I love this hifiman sound so much? I'm still in the return period for a local store here. I have e09k which seems to have a lot of power. 

 

[mogulmaster]

I listen to Electronic/Rock(classic mostly) /folk in that order