comfy enough for a CAT to wear indefinitely and not want to maul you to death - check
Edited by swbf2cheater - 6/20/12 at 1:22am
comfy enough for a CAT to wear indefinitely and not want to maul you to death - check
Philips should hire you for their marketing department instead, because now I really want to hear these headphones! Very well written and entertaining review, and that video of your cat just made my whole week. 
I love this review! And those pictures are gorgeous! I have a question, how are the vocals through these headphones? Are they more upfront or distant?
Great review thanks, and very disappointing with the marketing lady there. Tyll should have a word with the hot one in the video he posted about that.
Great review! Your cat is the perfect model for those L1s :)
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Only hate me for my rugged and dashing good looks. Ordered off the Apple Store online. Her name is Katie, shes fat and knows it. I had a very large collection of swords, sold all of them when I found this one. Now, its the only one I have due to its outstanding price and value. Its a Musashi blade :)
Thanks for all the nice comments, everyone.
LOL, love how your cat is enjoying wearing them too. :P
My only concern about these headphones would be the midrange, what's your call on this, it seems to have about a 5dB peak around 2kHz which to some other people at least made the vocals a bit shouty and colored sounding. To me it's fine if the whole midrange is brought forward but if it only peaks around 1~2kHz area it usually leads to especially female vocals getting this excessive nasal sound to it, what's your verdict here regarding the L1?
Gods honest RPGWiz, I've not a clue what the hell any of that meant haha. If you can actually hear peaks between such a small frequency range, you are Jesus incarnate and I want to meet you in person.
In all seriousness, the Midrange is excellent but not as excellent in terms of presentation as the Sony ZX700, which sounds bulging in the center mid range with vocals, very tall and large sounding vocals on the sony compared to the L1, which by contrast is maybe a 1/3 smaller as a whole. Which is significant. So no, the mids are not epic in terms of presentation, I missed the question asked earlier about them, the mids are moderately forward. I say this because the ZX700 mids sound like Yo Yo Ma is playing his Cello on my head, where as the L1 sounds more distant and less enveloping. Still, the mids are immensely clear and again that black background makes them pop nicely. Clarity is stellar. Its just not a particularly enveloping midrange, just like all of the qualities of the L1, its just a very good performer, not great or special. Just very good all around. I don't think it gets nasal at all, but thats my opinion. Michael Buble and Seth MacFarlane sound fantastic. I admit defeat in that same track I mentioned earlier, Ms Dynamites - Fire as her vocals were recorded in a broad and upfront way, the L1 sounds so good with it I am just not sure what else to say. If there were peaks in the FR, I didn't hear anything, if anything is wrong with the frequency response, its not audible to me in the slightest.
5dB is a huge variance! :P Nothing hard to spot for trained ears, I've kept EQing on almost a daily matter for matter of years, listening to even 0.5 - 1dB difference changes, so if there's a 5dB peak in 1 - 2kHz range I'll most likely notice it at least, for me for it to become an "issue" I think it has to be maybe 4~5dB bump minimum before I think it starts sounding very noticably shouty/nasal sounding compared to if it was neutral though. I do like forward midrange personally along with boosted bass but it's hard to get both very bassy (minimum L1 standards, probably very slightly more wouldn't hurt to me) and very in-your-face mids (ZX700 probably).
M-Audio Q40 has the perfect bass response for me, the mids are neutral and there I'd gladly take slightly more forward mids, probably like ZX700 (might have to try those at some point).
If you can spot something in that range with your naked ear, thats pretty insane ( in a bad way ), but then again its important to know some early models of the L1 had lots of problems. Users did report as you said, some bass distortion and upper mid "peaks". I near nothing they reported, then again mine is brand new and some of those reports could have definitely been from months in the past, some type of pre batch or first batch with some problems that were fixed.
If there were 5db differences in that small of a range, I would definitely pick that up and report it, however I hear nothing but smooth sound all around. Tell Tyll to send me all of his testing gear for free and I'll get to testing my L1 right away and report back after I resell the gear for a profit.
I know what 1-2kHz sounds like while listening to music if that's what you mean. Like I said, years of EQ experience has learnt me this. That's how it works these days, I listen to a headphone and then tell yea it needs a bump or decrease roughly in this area before even starting to move the sliders. xD
EDIT: of course it could be a unit variance or maybe it has been even modified later on, maybe you got a really nice sample! :)
Yoda said it best
" You must unlearn what you have learned." Get back to the music bro, stop worrying about the FR or Dbz, CBs, STDs and GEDs. Life is too short to care about that stuff :)
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/PhilipsFidelioL1.pdf
I dont think its a peak but rather its recessed on the 500hz to about 1khz, but either way if they sound good its awesome because its not everyday we get a handsome can as this that also sounds good ;). I ve been interested in these cans for sometime but not enough impressions for me to confirm on the purchase. Thanks swbf2cheater, also bro would you mind comparing them to other cans that you have demo'd or listened to besides the zx700 and HE-300
Zulkr9, I wouldn't see it as such, you are forgetting frequency response balance is all about balance, you can't compare the frequency response of a headphone versus a "straight" line on a graph. What you have to take into account is the headphone's "average frequency amplitude", which looks a bit more like the limegreen line drawn here:
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That this line for this headphone is sloping downwards is also showing the slight warmth this headphone is described as. It's against this drawn line which should be compared what's concidered a bump or decrease. It shows roughly 6dB boost in bass or so around 50~100Hz area at least (now we're talking roughly Denon D2000/D5000 quantities) and I personally concider ~5dB boost roughly what could be concidered "entry-level" basshead cans and it has 5dB peak in the upper mids. Tyll's measurements were analyzed by a person very thoroughly and it's been confirmed the 3.5kHz area and above is quite inaccurate as the positioning of the headphone and the seal has a lot of impact on this area, while the 10 - 3.5kHz area barely moves at all despite not quite optimal seal/positioning on the dummy head. So the valley at 3.5kHz - 7kHz in this case for example is most likely quite neutral and not as recessed as this graph would show (about 50% of his graphs shows similar dip there) as well as above 10kHz, this area is most often also a bit below the "truth" in his measurements while the peaks around 8~10kHz are usually quite accurate.