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My bifrost, which had been packed away for a bit until recently whereas I sold off my other headphones, is occasionally cutting in and out over USB with Windows 8. Anyone else have this issue? It worked fine in Windows 7 previously.
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Originally Posted by Synergist969 View Post

  To whom it may concern/interest:

 

    I too am a pleased Schiit owner, (Bifrost), along with a pair of Senn. HD650's, single-ended wired...and have been debating between purchasing the Lyr or Mjolnir amp, (balanced cable soon to be on the way)...  I have heard that the Mjolnir is an "end-game" amp, HOWEVER, I keep hearing about an upcoming "Statement" amp from Schiit...and wonder if it might be better to hold off on purchasing one of the afformentioned amps in favor of this new, as yet unrevealed Statement" amp..

 

    Does anyone have any information regarding this new proposed amp., its configuration, capabilities, etc., ?  If/when it might be on the market? 

 

    My appologies if this topic has been previously beaten to death or otherwise dealt with, however, if there is coverage of it, please let me know where to find it?

 

Thank you.

 

Sincerely,

T.A. Kogstrom 

 

 

There's no solid information on either statement amp or DAC. And all info is subject to change.

 

The amp will probably not drop for a few months. Speculation has the statement amp as a more/full featured Mjolnir.

There's also heresay the statement amp will offer binding posts and therefore, may be more geared towards speakers.

 

The Mjolnir with x headphone can indeed be "endgame". But IMO, that's all relative to each person. So I could have easily

been completely satisfied with the Lyr, for example.

 

I'd advise upgrading the headphone if considering Mjolnir. Otherwise, I'd see it hampering the overall potential.

(Not that you wouldn't get immense enjoyment out of using the HD650).

post #963 of 6958
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post

There's no solid information on either statement amp or DAC. And all info is subject to change.

 

The amp will probably not drop for a few months.

 

Hey all,

 

Since you at least deserve a statement with respect to the Statement products, here it is, in all its ugly glory:

 

Statement DAC

 

The Statement DAC has been delayed twice now due to changes in the DSP platform we planned to use. In engineering terms, our parts went "end of life." That means, in human terms, "don't use them for new designs." At first, one family of parts went end of life, so we switched to a related family. That family tree is now ending. Which means we've now switched to an all-new DSP engine.

 

The problem is, every time you change DSPs, you change development platform, code, simulation, etc--and that requires both re-investment in new development tools and time to get used to the vagaries of a new platform. So, we're really, really, really, really late. 

 

On the positive side, the Statement DAC will truly be an insane piece once it's done. It is of the magnitude of Mike Moffat's first Theta DSPre, introduced in 1986 after 4 years of engineering design, innumerable "Frankenstein" CD players, and intensive DSP development (including a RAND Corp mathematician). Now, that doesn't mean it will *be* a DSPre, with digital preamp functionality, nor is it anything like it except in terms of the amount of time and effort put into it. That's all the data we can release now. 

 

Statement Amp

 

The Statement amp is much more mature, but we put its development on hold so it can be more closely aligned with the DAC. Also, transformer issues have slowed us down in iterating the design. Argh.

 

What I can tell you about the Statement amp is that it is more than a feature--packed Mjolnir. Think of a complete integrated amp, with special attention paid to the headphone output side, and yes, speaker binding posts. Same circlotron-style topology, but significantly different in execution for these power and current levels, and with a very different, relay-switched stepped attenuator volume control. Expect 50W into 8 ohms and multiple levels of gain, with the intention of serving everything from IEMs to loudspeakers. And yes, solid-state or hybrid will be available--but it'll be a one-time choice. There's no switching back and forth. 

 

Timeframe

 

I've promised so much for so long that I'm loathe to say anything, but if I had to guess, it would be summer for the amp and maybe later for the DAC. We're going to try to keep them within a couple of months of each other. If we can launch together, we will. But we may not. Remember, guess =/= promise. Until we're ready to take orders, that's all there is to say.

 

All the best,

Jason


Edited by Jason Stoddard - 1/10/13 at 3:15pm
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Antsy, antsy. biggrin.gif

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Great to hear that Schiit is an innovator and Not "Same Old Soup, Just Reheated".
That's why I own their products.
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Also, apologies to everyone who's waited so long, as plans change. We've gone through a lot of evolution simply keeping up with demand--going from (almost literally) a garage operation to a reasonably-sized dedicated production facility in just a couple of years. We'll have a photo tour up soon, so you can see what it takes to design and build our stuff, starting at the PCB assembly house and chassis fabricators to our own shop and R&D labs. Aaannd...bear with us--there are a lot of exciting things coming!

post #967 of 6958
Thanks for the update. Sorry about the part problems, especially having to redesign and then again. This announcement really helps me know what to do with myself for a while, heh. We'll see what's going on in 6 months or so.

Speaker taps on the amp makes me curious about high efficiency near field speakers for desktop. Hmm.
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Reading about new Schiit while listening though some awesome Schiit. Life is good! Thanks for the update Jason!

post #969 of 6958

Looking forward to the Schiit Solid-State Statement.  :)

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Thank you for the update.

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Originally Posted by Jason Stoddard View Post

Statement Amp

 

The Statement amp is much more mature, but we put its development on hold so it can be more closely aligned with the DAC. Also, transformer issues have slowed us down in iterating the design. Argh.

 

What I can tell you about the Statement amp is that it is more than a feature--packed Mjolnir. Think of a complete integrated amp, with special attention paid to the headphone output side, and yes, speaker binding posts. Same circlotron-style topology, but significantly different in execution for these power and current levels, and with a very different, relay-switched stepped attenuator volume control. Expect 50W into 8 ohms and multiple levels of gain, with the intention of serving everything from IEMs to loudspeakers. And yes, solid-state or hybrid will be available--but it'll be a one-time choice. There's no switching back and forth. 

 

 

I'm glad to hear this.  This is the part I was concerned about.   SS for mebiggrin.gif  Flexible enough to drive Grados, Orthos and Audio Technicas


Edited by preproman - 1/10/13 at 4:08pm
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

 

I glad to hear this.  This is the part I was concerned about.   SS for mebiggrin.gif  Flexible enough to drive Grados, Orthos and Audio Technicas

And speakers!

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Going to assume not class A to 50W... cause after getting the F3, not digging 2.5A of bias ;)

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I'm finding the Mjolnir makes a fine preamp between my CD player and power amp. Any plans for a "real" preamp (3 inputs, 2 outputs for those of us who wish to bi-amp, etc.)?

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Even this detail-light update is excellent, thanks Jason!

 

Hope everything goes well on the Statement DAC from now on, sounds like you've already had enough delays.

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