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SR009 / WES / BHSE / LL hit the mainstream
Sep 24, 2012 at 7:57 AM Post #256 of 594
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muppetface said:
Personally I think the SR-007mk1 with the LL is fantastic, though synergistically the SR-009 and SR-Omega sound more correct because they're balanced out more by the LL's relatively "lush" sound (though I hesitate using that descriptor here; "stately" was a good one a friend of mine used). I can understand some finding the SR-007 too polite with the LL, but I encourage people to give it a try.
 
Incidentally, from the limited time I spent with the BHSE, I did personally prefer the SR-007 with it over the SR-009.
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I laughed at "stately".  It made me think of the LL with a mustache, top hat, monocle, walking stick and smoking pipe. 
 
Sep 24, 2012 at 3:46 PM Post #257 of 594
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elysian said:
Try both on a good stat amp without any preconceived notions.  The 007 is still my favorite headphone of all time, closely followed by the HE60 and HE6.  I think the 009 and HD800 are technically impressive headphones, but not really to my tastes.
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The HE60 is indeed one of the unsung hero's and unfairly overlooked due to the HE90's pricetag.  One of the most comfortable headphones ever made as well due to the almost 100% plastic construction and none of the HE90 build issues. 
 
I've been really enjoying the HD800 lately but I've never encountered a transducer that's as sensitive to the amp pushing it.  Granted the ring radiator does some very funky things and the phase angles are odd to say the least but even something like the 007 retains it's character on pretty much everything you use it with, just getting better with better amps.  The HD800 can go from a horrid bright mush to almost as good as the HE60 just by changing the amp. 
 
Sep 24, 2012 at 4:18 PM Post #259 of 594
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spritzer said:
 
The HE60 is indeed one of the unsung hero's and unfairly overlooked due to the HE90's pricetag.  One of the most comfortable headphones ever made as well due to the almost 100% plastic construction and none of the HE90 build issues. 
 
I've been really enjoying the HD800 lately but I've never encountered a transducer that's as sensitive to the amp pushing it.  Granted the ring radiator does some very funky things and the phase angles are odd to say the least but even something like the 007 retains it's character on pretty much everything you use it with, just getting better with better amps.  The HD800 can go from a horrid bright mush to almost as good as the HE60 just by changing the amp. 
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What amp would this be ?
 
Sep 24, 2012 at 4:18 PM Post #260 of 594
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elysian said:
Try both on a good stat amp without any preconceived notions.  The 007 is still my favorite headphone of all time, closely followed by the HE60 and HE6.  I think the 009 and HD800 are technically impressive headphones, but not really to my tastes.
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One of these days... It looks like my first "electro-experience" will be with some Lambda Pros soon
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I feel similar about the HD800, it sounds perfect and nothing about it bothers me (I can listen to it for hours), but it doesn't engage me like my planers do.
 
Sep 24, 2012 at 8:47 PM Post #261 of 594
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spritzer said:
 
I've been really enjoying the HD800 lately but I've never encountered a transducer that's as sensitive to the amp pushing it.  Granted the ring radiator does some very funky things and the phase angles are odd to say the least but even something like the 007 retains it's character on pretty much everything you use it with, just getting better with better amps.  The HD800 can go from a horrid bright mush to almost as good as the HE60 just by changing the amp. 
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I second that. My HD800 sounds way different on every amp I have.
 
So far, the better results I'm having are with the Phonitor.
 
Sep 26, 2012 at 3:54 PM Post #263 of 594
As an update, my BHSE and 009 loaners will arrive around the middle of next week. I am hoping that Alex will be able to get a LL out to me by that time, so that I can compare all of them together. To avoid any hints of even subconscious favoritism, I am personally paying round trip shipping on all this gear. Am I crazy shelling out several hundred dollars of my own money for a grueling few days of intensive listening and comparison? Well, I'm primarily doing myself a favor as I need to figure these out in my own home, on my own time, and not subject to meet conditions, so I guess I can argue that by doing this I will actually avoid going crazy 
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In the end, I will purchase the 009 (again) and either the BHSE or the LL, whichever will provide the best listening experience. Though I've been a fond owner of Cavalli amps in the past, it means nothing with regard to what the outcome will be.
 
Sep 26, 2012 at 4:00 PM Post #264 of 594
Really looking forward to your impressions. I would love to compare a BHSE to my LL in my own home. Just to settle the discussion for me.
 
Also, I wouldn't hold your breath for an LL unless Alex has more than 1 that he's taking to RMAF. He's leaving fairly soon with all his gear IIRC.
 
Have you talked to him about it yet? Gonna be weird if you go off and rebuy the exact rig you just sold.
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mwilson said:
As an update, my BHSE and 009 loaners will arrive around the middle of next week. I am hoping that Alex will be able to get a LL out to me by that time, so that I can compare all of them together. To avoid any hints of even subconscious favoritism, I am personally paying round trip shipping on all this gear. Am I crazy shelling out several hundred dollars of my own money for a grueling few days of intensive listening and comparison? Well, I'm primarily doing myself a favor as I need to figure these out in my own home, on my own time, and not subject to meet conditions, so I guess I can argue that by doing this I will actually avoid going crazy 
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In the end, I will purchase the 009 (again) and either the BHSE or the LL, whichever will provide the best listening experience. Though I've been a fond owner of Cavalli amps in the past, it means nothing with regard to what the outcome will be.
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Sep 26, 2012 at 4:05 PM Post #265 of 594
According to Alex, there's another unit, at the moment on loan with another head-fi'er, which might be shipped to me later in the week.
 
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morbidtoaster said:
Also, I wouldn't hold your breath for an LL unless Alex has more than 1 that he's taking to RMAF. He's leaving fairly soon with all his gear IIRC.
 
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Sep 29, 2012 at 3:40 AM Post #268 of 594
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muppetface said:
Personally I think the SR-007mk1 with the LL is fantastic, though synergistically the SR-009 and SR-Omega sound more correct because they're balanced out more by the LL's relatively "lush" sound (though I hesitate using that descriptor here; "stately" was a good one a friend of mine used). I can understand some finding the SR-007 too polite with the LL, but I encourage people to give it a try.
 
Incidentally, from the limited time I spent with the BHSE, I did personally prefer the SR-007 with it over the SR-009.
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I agree - I've posted very similar impressions of these combos.
 
Sep 30, 2012 at 10:23 PM Post #270 of 594
The general impressions seems to be 007 + BHSE and 009 + LL are the ideal pairings, but I'm waiting to draw conclusions for myself. 
 
mwilson actually owned the 009 + LL before and sold it because his 009s were...invaded.
 
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statfi said:
Does anyone have impressions from such tests on whether the LL or the BHSE is better with the 009s?  I guess a comparison that also interests mwilson.
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