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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post

From the "scrap" we bought from the dealer in Dubai. Balanced and blueprinted twin turbo Flat-12 from a 512TR revving to 7500 RPMs, making 796bhp & 626 torques.



"What are you going to put that into?" Well, I'm glad you asked...



Kit will be in next month. biggrin.gif

 

That is going to be epic! :L3000:

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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post

From the "scrap" we bought from the dealer in Dubai. Balanced and blueprinted twin turbo Flat-12 from a 512TR revving to 7500 RPMs, making 796bhp & 626 torques.



"What are you going to put that into?" Well, I'm glad you asked...



Kit will be in next month. biggrin.gif


Sonofabeech! That flat 12 will fit in that engine bay?? Which Stratos kit is that.

 

By god I think for the first time in this friggin site I am actually envious of something.

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Magick, I assume you're getting a traditional Stratos kit like a Hawk or something similar? The picture is that stillborn small-run project from a couple years ago, isn't it?

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The reason I don't like VW is they are more expensive to repair than a Mercedes-Benz in Australia and the image of I couldn't afford a proper German car so I bought this. Its the Boxster effect.

VW Is more German than half of the MB range anyways...... (Well soon to be anyways :P). 

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How so? I do realise a few Mercedes Benz models are not Deutsch made.
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I'm not going to jump to bash Porsche - I happen to *like* Porsches - even if you do look like an @sshat when driving one - so there - tongue.gif

I would rather have a Porsche than a ton of cars I could name - including anything made in Japan or the USA.
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Dem fighting words billybob :p

 

A Viper or a ZR1 or a GT40 or even a Saleen after a visit to Messrs Lingenfelter might change that.

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How so? I do realise a few Mercedes Benz models are not Deutsch made.

Volkswagen (The German people's car) was developed for the German masses, although one can argue that Mercedes Benz has a heritage that stems back to the 1800's we can not say that it was designed for the German people :tongue:. VW is as real of a German car as German cars go :biggrin: (So it isn't a "fake German car" that people get if they cannot afford a "real German car":tongue_smile:

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Magick, I assume you're getting a traditional Stratos kit like a Hawk or something similar? The picture is that stillborn small-run project from a couple years ago, isn't it?

Michael Stoschek, who was going to build the new Stratos based on the Pininfarina designs, still has quite a few of the tubs and bodies. This was something I hashed over last year but nothing came of it then. Recently he changed his mind however, and now he wants to sell them, but he wants a man-sized price, $120k each.
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Originally Posted by billybob_jcv View Post

I'm not going to jump to bash Porsche - I happen to *like* Porsches - even if you do look like an @sshat when driving one - so there - tongue.gif

I would rather have a Porsche than a ton of cars I could name - including anything made in Japan or the USA.

Yep. I can't think of a single American or Japanese car I'd take over a 911 Turbo, including the GT, LFA, or any iteration of the Skyline/GTR. They're simply better-sorted cars and superior handlers. The only thing that comes close is the new Stingray, I just prefer my engines in the rear. tongue.gif
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Volkswagen (The German people's car) was developed for the German masses, although one can argue that Mercedes Benz has a heritage that stems back to the 1800's we can not say that it was designed for the German people :tongue:. VW is as real of a German car as German cars go :biggrin: (So it isn't a "fake German car" that people get if they cannot afford a "real German car":tongue_smile:

You could argue the opposite in modern times, though. Mercedes-Benzes are some of the most common cars on German roads, making up the majority of Germany's taxis and commercial vehicles. They're also much more common as personal cars than Americans assume, since they're marketed purely as luxury cars here.

 

Meanwhile, Volkswagen's whole strategy today is focused on fiercely expanding into new markets. The current-gen Jetta is famous for having gotten worse over the last generation as efforts were made to cheapen and Americanize the car. Most of VW's project development money goes into models for developing countries, whereas MB focuses on creating high-quality cars across multiple segments and price points. And that's the German way.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post


Michael Stoschek, who was going to build the new Stratos based on the Pininfarina designs, still has quite a few of the tubs and bodies. This was something I hashed over last year but nothing came of it then. Recently he changed his mind however, and now he wants to sell them, but he wants a man-sized price, $120k each.


Count me interested now! If you were more of a public guy, Jalopnik would be all over that.

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Originally Posted by ssrock64 View Post

You could argue the opposite in modern times, though. Mercedes-Benzes are some of the most common cars on German roads, making up the majority of Germany's taxis and commercial vehicles. They're also much more common as personal cars than Americans assume, since they're marketed purely as luxury cars here.

Meanwhile, Volkswagen's whole strategy today is focused on fiercely expanding into new markets. The current-gen Jetta is famous for having gotten worse over the last generation as efforts were made to cheapen and Americanize the car. Most of VW's project development money goes into models for developing countries, whereas MB focuses on creating high-quality cars across multiple segments and price points. And that's the German way.


Since the Phaeton, VW hasn't made anything exceptional, except certain GTIs and the Golf R. The new Scirocco may be good, but they don't sell it here, so screw it.
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Count me interested now! If you were more of a public guy, Jalopnik would be all over that.

They're all spoken for now, I tried to possibly get another a few days later, to potentially build and sell, but no luck. redface.gif
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Since the Phaeton, VW hasn't made anything exceptional, except certain GTIs and the Golf R. The new Scirocco may be good, but they don't sell it here, so screw it.
They're all spoken for now, I tried to possibly get another a few days later, to potentially build and sell, but no luck. redface.gif


Bugger. Good score even if the price is a premium. It's not like those will ever come around again.

 

This just gets more interesting by the minute. Any idea of delivery date?

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Still unofficial and not announced, but the Koenigsegg One just completed the Nordschleife in 6:45.91 on street legal rubber, expecting a press conference soon. How that for throwing down a gauntlet? Bugger, that thing has to be biblically fast, like driving an exploding powder keg. blink.gif
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The LFA and GTR simply have no soul - they are fast and technically great cars - but they don't stir my loins like a Porsche, Ferarri, Lambo, McLaren, etc. And, truth be told, I'm not really a big fan of the typical modern supercar styling that looks like it escaped from a new episode of Battlestar Galactica (eg, Pagani). I can appreciate them, but I don't really love them. It's the same reason I think modern F1 cars are horribly ugly. I keep thinking the engineering design still isn't optimized on those cars, because an optimal design simply shouldn't be that butt ugly... wink.gif

Of course, when you think about it, those designs really are NOT optimal - they have to be compromised for "safety" rules...
Edited by billybob_jcv - 2/27/14 at 9:02am
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