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I didn't say you could find all the qualities in a single car - only that all the qualities should be considered. This is an exercise in compromise...
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I didn't say you could find all the qualities in a single car - only that all the qualities should be considered. This is an exercise in compromise...
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Depends on how long it taakes for me to get to 150k............ Honda NSX
OK - so I have a topic for discussion: Let's suppose you were going to buy a car (new or used) that you plan to drive until it has at least 150K+ miles. What would you buy? You should consider the entire experience - longevity, total cost of ownership, comfort, economy, performance, style, etc. But it will be your ONLY car for the next 150K+ miles.
Depends on how long it taakes for me to get to 150k............ Honda NSX
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Toyota Camry 4 cylinder or Honda Accord 4 cylinder. The Camry is a more comfortable riding car, plenty of room, and great MPG, but it's a cruiser, not a driver's car...the Accord is more of a driver's car yet still comfortable enough, roomy enough, and decent MPG. Both legendarily reliable over the long haul.
My dad drives a 2012 Camry and my uncle a 2012 Accord, both 4cyl. automatics (6-speed for the Camry, 5-speed for the Accord). Both of them observe speed limits for the most part (for example setting the cruise at a real 69-70 mph on the highway where the limit is 65) and both average slightly over 30mpg.
10 years ago my answer would have been something different, I'm sure....lol. If costs were not a factor my choices would also be different.
OK - so I have a topic for discussion: Let's suppose you were going to buy a car (new or used) that you plan to drive until it has at least 150K+ miles. What would you buy? You should consider the entire experience - longevity, total cost of ownership, comfort, economy, performance, style, etc. But it will be your ONLY car for the next 150K+ miles.
Toyota Camry 4 cylinder or Honda Accord 4 cylinder. The Camry is a more comfortable riding car, plenty of room, and great MPG, but it's a cruiser, not a driver's car...the Accord is more of a driver's car yet still comfortable enough, roomy enough, and decent MPG. Both legendarily reliable over the long haul.
My dad drives a 2012 Camry and my uncle a 2012 Accord, both 4cyl. automatics (6-speed for the Camry, 5-speed for the Accord). Both of them observe speed limits for the most part (for example setting the cruise at a real 69-70 mph on the highway where the limit is 65) and both average slightly over 30mpg.
10 years ago my answer would have been something different, I'm sure....lol. If costs were not a factor my choices would also be different.
I am going to really push it and suggest the Camry hybrid. The fuel economy is astounding and acceleration was pretty impressive too for a hybrid.
It's hard not to like the initial surge of power but it's silent as a monastery so won't be replacing my garage any time soon.
It's hard not to like the initial surge of power but it's silent as a monastery so won't be replacing my garage any time soon.
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May I just suggest a left wing practical suggestion? Mazda 6......
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You know, I realize I was thinking about this from the perspective of a family man, which billybob is...yet his question was what we would want. And that changes my pick instantly.....I would instead go for this....
Folding hard top Miata, and if it was to be the only vehicle, then I'd take the 6 speed auto with paddle shifters. (I know Magick just died a little inside reading that last bit....lol)
You know, I realize I was thinking about this from the perspective of a family man, which billybob is...yet his question was what we would want. And that changes my pick instantly.....I would instead go for this....
Folding hard top Miata, and if it was to be the only vehicle, then I'd take the 6 speed auto with paddle shifters. (I know Magick just died a little inside reading that last bit....lol)
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Since Billybob's children are old enough to leave his hous and therefore make him an empty nester, I think he could drive any car he wants
Auto Miata? What about resale value after 150k? Manual would be worth a lot more
You know, I realize I was thinking about this from the perspective of a family man, which billybob is...yet his question was what we would want. And that changes my pick instantly.....I would instead go for this....
Folding hard top Miata, and if it was to be the only vehicle, then I'd take the 6 speed auto with paddle shifters. (I know Magick just died a little inside reading that last bit....lol)
Since Billybob's children are old enough to leave his hous and therefore make him an empty nester, I think he could drive any car he wants
Auto Miata? What about resale value after 150k? Manual would be worth a lot more
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Not in the USA.....lol.
Most of the time here, even if a manual is available on a car, you'll still have to order it from a dealer....they won't have one on the lot because so few Americans drive them nowadays.
I could be happy with a manual about 98% of the time...but that other 2% is enough to make me think the paddles would be enough for those days I feel frisky.
What about resale value after 150k? Manual would be worth a lot more
Not in the USA.....lol.
Most of the time here, even if a manual is available on a car, you'll still have to order it from a dealer....they won't have one on the lot because so few Americans drive them nowadays.
I could be happy with a manual about 98% of the time...but that other 2% is enough to make me think the paddles would be enough for those days I feel frisky.
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3-4 y/o MINI Cooper S or a new Fiat 500 Abarth, being entirely serious billy. Those are about as much fun as you can find for under $40k, great economy too.
Oh, and the Focus ST, that's one to add too. I'm going to buy a Tanner Foust edition, that's gonna to be a killer ride.
Oh, and the Focus ST, that's one to add too. I'm going to buy a Tanner Foust edition, that's gonna to be a killer ride.
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I remember billybob travelling a fair bit every day, wouldn't suggest a hatchback.
A big sedan would be more comfortable and better for highway driving.
A big sedan would be more comfortable and better for highway driving.
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That Cooper S, with the selectable suspension, that's a really comfortable car. No joke.
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Get the Camry, not the hybrid though....
Get the Camry, not the hybrid though....
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I wouldn't buy a Camry, I acknowledge it does things a lot better than a lot of cars but I never use my head while buying.
My heart always takes over and I end up buying something that,s fun but a pain in the wallet,
I wouldn't buy a Camry, I acknowledge it does things a lot better than a lot of cars but I never use my head while buying.
My heart always takes over and I end up buying something that,s fun but a pain in the wallet,
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