The hate on beats, why?
Jan 11, 2014 at 2:13 PM Post #121 of 1,217
It´s a bit strange but it´s fashion to beat on commercially successful gear I suppose. Makes you smart if you haven´t fallen for the propaganda. I have heard many many worse headphones then the beats. Many better some more expensive and some cheaper that is how life is :)
 
Jan 11, 2014 at 2:36 PM Post #122 of 1,217
I really like the M100 the Bass really did it for me but the Mids sounded so dull and weird and lacked musicality. I would even say the Studios do a few things better.
 
Jan 11, 2014 at 2:46 PM Post #123 of 1,217
  Not for 1-25 year olds. Trust me I'm relatively popular at my hs. I'm assuming you guys are 35+? It's not like we're trying to impress our parents friends.

 
I'm 22 and I think I'd still prefer the hideous & gaudy looks of the HD800 than any Beats. And if they want looks, why don't they go for Sony MDR-1R or B&W P5 (the best looking easy-to-drive portable cans IMO)...
 
Jan 11, 2014 at 3:13 PM Post #124 of 1,217
  Not for 1-25 year olds. Trust me I'm relatively popular at my hs. I'm assuming you guys are 35+? It's not like we're trying to impress our parents friends.

 
Well there ya go.
 
High school. Where people all gotta wear the same brands, same shoes, same everything.
College. No one gives a crap, you can go to class in your pajamas and people don't even...
 
Jan 11, 2014 at 3:46 PM Post #125 of 1,217
I'm 22 and I think I'd still prefer the hideous & gaudy looks of the HD800 than any Beats. And if they want looks, why don't they go for Sony MDR-1R or B&W P5 (the best looking easy-to-drive portable cans IMO)...

I have had both the mdr1r and p5 and didn't care for them. Now the p7 on the other hand.....
I'd say the new studios are better than p5 and mdr1r, to me....sound wise.
I'm 33
 
Jan 11, 2014 at 8:04 PM Post #127 of 1,217
  They have a bad price to performance ratio and have muddied everything. There's the bass then you get unclear mids and highs. For that wad of cash you could get better gear.

 
It's probably for the best that everything is muddied. The same people that own Beats are the same people that listen to 128 kbps streamed music. If they had better headphones their ears would bleed.
 
Jan 11, 2014 at 8:47 PM Post #128 of 1,217
   
It's probably for the best that everything is muddied. The same people that own Beats are the same people that listen to 128 kbps streamed music. If they had better headphones their ears would bleed.

 
128kbps. Radio quality, I presume?
I can't really stand the radio anymore because of the quality. People say it sounds like 128kbps MP3.
 
Jan 11, 2014 at 9:16 PM Post #130 of 1,217
I've tried the Beats by Dre Solo and thought the bass muddied up the mids and highs. The Studios were an improvement but still suffered from similar problems. The build quality is exceptionally poor compared to many other headphone in that price range. The reason people on the forum dislike Beats is because there is simply no value for the dollar. Beats are basically cool looking headphones (I think they look great) endorsed by a famous producer (Dr. Dre makes great tracks, and I've seen him use V6's and M50's LOL)There are many other options out there and I wouldn't see why one would choose Beats over other headphones but there also headphones worse than beats in the price range. 
 
Jan 11, 2014 at 10:38 PM Post #131 of 1,217
I have always wondered why Bose gets a pass and beats don't. From a marketing standpoint beats are a wonder. I read somewhere, and may not be true, but 70% of all headphones sold are beats? Ridiculous. Regardless of what's cool and what's not, I think Bose sound awful. Their ANC is the very best I have heard. I also like a lot of their speakers, and I know many rag of Bose as a company too, but the level of hate toward beats is unrivaled here. Bose sound just isn't to my liking. It isn't very clean and crisp. Their NC also makes me sick. I dont know why, but in get headaches when using it for any length of time. Now I can't speak to sound of most beats. Solos did sound liked crap to me and I wasn't too impressed with the pros or executives. The mixr actually didn't sound that bad to me the 3 min I heard them one time, I just didn't care for the on ear design. But the studios sounded pretty good to me. You put them in the body of the executive and charge $300, I think they are a good deal. Leave them in their current form and I think $200 is pretty fair. I actually liked their sound though.
 
Jan 11, 2014 at 11:40 PM Post #133 of 1,217
Beats always looked sharp and sleek to me, not to mention very recognizable with the flashy color options. I can see why the general population likes it so much as a status symbol. But of course, they're also uncomfortable (to me at least), overpriced, and have waaaay to much bass so I'm never going near one.
 
Jan 12, 2014 at 2:06 AM Post #134 of 1,217
Not sure you caught my sarcasm or were agreeing with me? I think it's ridiculous that some think a person is stupid because they have beats on their ears. Your car example was a good one.

Do I think older beats were overpriced compared to their performance? Of course. Do I think lesser of people who have them? Absolutely not. My cup of tea, may not be yours. If a person is happy with them, so be it. You know how I treat the "beats issue," I choose not to buy them. Easy enough.

That said, I actually really like the new studios. I do think their performance and portability is quite good. I still don't like the price, but if I had a gift card for $100 or so, I'd gladly pay around $200 for them. On my flight to Pasadena this week I saw about 5 pair of beats on my flight going and 8 coming back, of various models and I'd hate to think everyone wearing them were wondering if they were being judged by everyone on the plane. It's about personally enjoying the music. Whether it's a $5 set from Walgreens or a $1500 set, I buy based off the enjoyment I get from the music and the headphones are the vehicle to get me there.

I think far too often, here especially, the people that want to analyze the music and the ones that want to enjoy their music get all mixed up.


Yeah I was totally saying that in support of what you had said man. I mean I'm not going to claim that I think Beats offers the best quality of sound for the price or anything (be cause they simply don't as a brand), but I think it's dumb to judge people based on what they like in terms of something that's purely for enjoyment like headphones.
 
Jan 12, 2014 at 3:18 AM Post #135 of 1,217
Beats are very expensive!
 
How about tube amps? Aftermarket cables? The latest 'jesus-headphone' from Stax? Some of the items recommended on this site cost 8-10 times as much as a new pair of Beats Studioes.
 
I hate Beats because people buy them based on some guy's public image!
 
If you don't see how this is an hypocritical statement to utter in Head-Fi, I'm not sure what to say.
People here don't mind spending upwards of a few hundred dollars for FOTM cans if say, Tyll gushes over them a bit.
 
But they sound bad!
 
The mother of all subjective claims.
 

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