The ATH-CKM50. The CKM family impressions..(First look at the NEW CKM500)..Pg 86
Feb 10, 2012 at 11:36 PM Post #724 of 1,323
Is it just me or does the CKM50 have an even more V-shaped sound signature than the SHE3580? I spent last night running sine sweeps and testing with music and ended up EQing both the bass and treble down even more than for the SHE3580. OTOH the result sounds less airy than the 3580 so perhaps I overdid the treble correction. But midbass and subbass are definitely stronger than the 3580. There was no bass spike like I speculated in the last post, just a gradual ramp up to a mild peak at ~100Hz and keeps going strong from there all the way down with a slight dip.

BTW I'm using the 3580‘s tips on the CKM50 coz I couldn't get the same seal on both ears using the stock medium tips. Haven't tried the other stock sizes but the philips tips were the next thing I tried and pretty much just worked, tried and true for me.
 
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Feb 10, 2012 at 11:39 PM Post #725 of 1,323
I found the CKM50s to be definitely more bass/treble heavy than the SHE3580s.
 
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Is it just me or does the CKM50 have an even more V-shaped sound signature than the SHE3580? I spent last night running sine sweeps and testing with music and ended up EQing both the bass and treble down even more than for the SHE3580. OTOH the result sounds less airy than the 3580 so perhaps I overdid the treble correction. But midbass and subbass are definitely stronger than the 3580. There was no bass spike like I speculated in the last post, just a gradual ramp up to a mild peak at ~100Hz and keeps going strong from there all the way down with a slight dip.
BTW I'm using the 3580‘s tips on the CKM50 coz I couldn't get the same seal on both ears using the stock medium tips. Haven't tried the other stock sizes but the philips tips were the next thing I tried and pretty much just worked, tried and true for me.



 
 
Feb 11, 2012 at 12:26 AM Post #726 of 1,323
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Wait, you threw out your box with the tips in them? Hmm.. Sony Hybrids are the closest but they do change the sound just a bit. There is a replacement tip it says for the CKM50s . Some white ones in medium. http://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Silicone-ATH-CK1-ATH-CK6-ATH-CKM50/dp/B001G4DUZG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328849884&sr=8-1


Actually, someone threw out the box with the tips in them for me.
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Thanks for the link!
 
 
 
Feb 11, 2012 at 1:01 AM Post #727 of 1,323
@Dsnuts One week into ownership and I am loving the CKM50's more and more. I picked them up on a whim due to this thread but had been waiting for some ES7's to ship and now having had the ES7s for just 2 days, I'm finding that there is detail missing on the ES7s that I hear on the CKM50's - the high "triangle" noises are all crystal clear. I assume that'e the high treble? Some people might be into that but I love how my recent experience into headphones has allowed me to hear parts of songs that I've never heard before.
 
Celine Dion's "My heart will go on." - Just kind of randomly surfed to it on my list and I've heard it a million times but those high notes. I must be a noob, haha. 
 
One thing I noticed but can't confirm is that the extension cord seems to dampen the sound a little bit. I have mostly been listening without the extension cord. Can't confirm this 100% - maybe it's just something in my head...
 
Regardless - glad I came across this thread. Maybe I'll "graduate" to something nicer once I get tired of these, haha but for now, they are great.
 
Feb 11, 2012 at 6:47 AM Post #730 of 1,323
Just ordered thanks to some legend on here...cant wait :D

Edit: Has anyone found a different extension cable of better length and decent quality?
 
Feb 11, 2012 at 2:22 PM Post #731 of 1,323


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I found the CKM50s to be definitely more bass/treble heavy than the SHE3580s.
 


 



There might be more bass and treble....does it possess the full size can sound in an iem?
 
Does the SHE3850 have the resolving power of the CKM50?
 
While I find a comparable iem like the Sony MDR-EX35(comparable to the SHE3850) to have a more balanced signature to the CKM50.....they don't possess the resolving capabilities of the CKM50.....frequency balance does not determine overall performance in any headphone.
 
While I would use the Sony MDR-EX35....and not miss anything in my music..... the CKM50 trumps it in overall performance.....as well it should considering it's MSRP.
 
Feb 11, 2012 at 8:39 PM Post #732 of 1,323
I am also finding that this type of IEM design (CKM50) is perhaps the most comfortable I have worn. You can even lay your head down with them on. I am also finding them to be more immersive with better imaging and wider soundstage than any IEM I've owned (ATH-CK7, Klipsch X5, PFE 112, Senn CX200, UE TF10). In fact, I simply prefer these CKM50 over my TF10 overall. They will remain in the drawer until these CKM50s break. I also briefly owned the UE 700s. Spent like $150 for them. The CKM50s blow them away.
 
 
 
Feb 11, 2012 at 8:48 PM Post #733 of 1,323
Geeze man I suppose if you ended up with the CKM77s you would have missed out. Lol!!. Truth be told I enjoy both equally as both have completely different sound signatures. The CKM50s are more musical..I think the bass on the CKM50 while big is very unique..I have plenty of bassy earphones but I prefer this type of bassy presentation vs just having big bass. It does sound like you have a woofer in there somewhere. Have you guys ever owned a pair of these? The M50.. Believe it or not these CKM50s sound about $95% similar. Now you know. 
 
So I got news from a friend of mine who used to own the CKM70s What does these sound like? Supposedly these A700 But with more bass. So it makes sense that my CKM77s sound like the updated A900.
 
Feb 11, 2012 at 9:01 PM Post #734 of 1,323
After a few days of using them in the bus ride, I have to say...they kill my ears. Not with fatigue, well..maybe a little, but mostly with how much detail these ckm77s have...it's so appalling to hear the nice sound quality and great instrument seperation. I sometimes think it's better than the A900x to be honest, I can take one instrument and make clear of what it is, the mids are....so...inviting I can hardly stop listening to vocals without smiling. Dsnuts, you have made my audiophile dream come true! I know what soundstage, instrument seperation, clarity, and definately high end phones mean to people and how it differentiates from stock apple/beats/bose/other bad brands.
 
Feb 11, 2012 at 9:07 PM Post #735 of 1,323
Ya it is pretty crazy just how much detail these have..You notice these have almost the same amount of bass as the A900X as well. They might have a bit more actually. But What I really like is the fact that I can have this level of detail on the go..So I agree with you 100% on how nuts these are..I take turns with the CKM77s one day and the CKM50 the next. A detailed sound and then a musical one.. Love em both.
 
 

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