FiiO E17 "ALPEN" - First Impression + Final Thought
Jun 8, 2013 at 9:35 PM Post #5,911 of 6,777
The E17 works with the Samsung Galaxy S4 as a DAC with the help of an OTG cable!
 

 

 

 

 
Jun 10, 2013 at 2:18 AM Post #5,913 of 6,777
My E17 won't turn on, what can i do?


Do you have the e9? When ever my e17 did that I plugged it in to the e9k and turned it on and they both lit up. Or I'd just plug the USB cable into it and get pushing the button until it turned on. Or leave it plugged in for a whole they try.

Good luck


Thanks,


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Jun 14, 2013 at 11:30 PM Post #5,915 of 6,777
For those of you with an E9 as well, do you feel plugging the E17 into the E9 improves the sound as compared to just the E17 by itself?  
 
(This is assuming you're using low impedance phones like CIEM's or portable headphones, not something like 600 ohm DT990's.)
 
Jun 15, 2013 at 12:11 AM Post #5,916 of 6,777
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For those of you with an E9 as well, do you feel plugging the E17 into the E9 improves the sound as compared to just the E17 by itself?  
 
(This is assuming you're using low impedance phones like CIEM's or portable headphones, not something like 600 ohm DT990's.)

The only difference I can really pick up on is the midrange seems a little quieter when docked with the E9. I'll have to do some really careful listening to find anything else.
 
Jun 15, 2013 at 9:32 AM Post #5,918 of 6,777
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So is android now a great option for use with the E17? Im considering what phone to get after my iPhone 4S.

Last I checked, still not really due to the power draw of the E17 even with USB chg turned off meaning that an external power source between the E17 and Android device is needed. And then even after that we have problems of devices working and not working, if you know how to set it up for digital output as its not an official feature of the phone's. Cyanogen mods and what not as well as cables from ebay not working or lieing.
 
Jun 15, 2013 at 12:40 PM Post #5,919 of 6,777
If Android compatibility is what you're looking for, then wait for the E18 coming out later this year. It is specifically designed for Android. I can confirm that the E17 does not work with my Galaxy SIII.
 
Jun 15, 2013 at 3:21 PM Post #5,920 of 6,777
A friend of mine has a FiiO E17 working with a stock Galaxy S3 using the USB Audio Recorder PRO app available on Google Play store, without any external power source.
There is a free trial version of USB Audio Recorder PRO.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudiorecorderpro
 
USB Audio Recorder PRO is my prefered music player. I has also Neutron and Poweramp.
And I am not alone:
 
"From what I understand, USB Audio Recorder Pro app allows higher quality recordings to be played in their true hi-res quality because it bypasses a 16-bit/48kHz limitation in Android kernel. (The DX100 also does that with the iBasso software.) All other apps downsample to 16/48 before passing the signal to the external DAC like the Apex Glacier.
 
Besides that, I also find the app to output very natural sound. So I used the app quite a bit when I am in the mood for the best quality."
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/2475#post_9511194
 
Jun 15, 2013 at 3:23 PM Post #5,921 of 6,777
Quote:
A friend of mine has a FiiO E17 working with a stock Galaxy S3 using the USB Audio Recorder PRO app available on Google Play store, without any external power source.
There is a free trial version of USB Audio Recorder PRO.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudiorecorderpro
 
USB Audio Recorder PRO is my prefered music player. I has also Neutron and Poweramp.
And I am not alone:
 
"From what I understand, USB Audio Recorder Pro app allows higher quality recordings to be played in their true hi-res quality because it bypasses a 16-bit/48kHz limitation in Android kernel. (The DX100 also does that with the iBasso software.) All other apps downsample to 16/48 before passing the signal to the external DAC like the Apex Glacier.
 
Besides that, I also find the app to output very natural sound. So I used the app quite a bit when I am in the mood for the best quality."
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/2475#post_9511194

Is he using the S3 to E17 with an USB OTG cable?
 
Jun 15, 2013 at 4:14 PM Post #5,922 of 6,777
Yes, he does.
 
 
As legacy computers, legacy peripherals like Android smartphones having all the features of a computer need to interconnect with peripherals.
This slave-to-slave communication functionality is not supported by the master-to-slave communication USB model.
To address this need, the USB OTG concept is added to the USB standard
 
USB OTG retains the legacy master-to-slave or USB host-to-USB peripheral communication model.
 
A USB OTG device is a dual-role USB device, sometimes a USB host, sometimes a USB peripheral:
. a USB OTG-capable Android device operating as a USB peripheral can interwork with a PC operating as a USB host
. a USB OTG-capable Android device operating as a USB host can interwork with a USB DAC always operating as a USB peripheral.
 
A USB OTG software program and USB OTG hardware components are added at the USB level.
A USB OTG device is configured to USB host mode or USB peripheral mode by USB OTG software/hardware measuring the value of the ID resistance of the USB interface.
 

 
When the Micro-B plug is inserted into the Micro-AB receptacle of a USB OTG-capable Android device, the ID resistance is greater than 10Ω, and the Android device is configured to USB peripheral mode.
 
 

 

When the Micro-A plug is inserted into the Micro-AB receptacle of a USB OTG-capable Android device, the ID resistance is less than 10Ω, and the Android device is configured to USB host mode.
 
Jun 15, 2013 at 7:43 PM Post #5,923 of 6,777
The E17 works perfectly with my Verizon GS4. I've only used it for about a half an hour total, but it does work and it's simply plug and play.
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So is android now a great option for use with the E17? Im considering what phone to get after my iPhone 4S.

 
Jun 16, 2013 at 4:09 AM Post #5,925 of 6,777

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