Instead of the E17/9 with HD580, I am MUCH more excited to listen to the D2K with it. Can't wait nah nah nah nah nah COME ON~~!!

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THank u duyu! I have read and will keep all this in mind. I know u r trying to stay neutral and not hype or do anything biased. But ur post will leave readers wonderi g.... What the conclusion is for the e17 plus 600/650 is it a good pairing byitself? With e9? For the price range, anything better? Recommend for price? Thank u

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bowei, I can't make any general comment yet, because E17+E9 is the only thing DAC+AMP I have listened.
 
For a responsible review, I make all comments based on comparisons between different settings I can made.
 
I would make some comment on whether E17+E9 is worth buying later on. I notice there is improvement after 10 hours listening. As what I have said, if you compare E17 with an ipod or other mp3 players. It is a very significant upgrade. Improvements on clarity, soundstage, bass are significant.
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I have one suggestion for those who own high impedance headphones (>=300OHM)and interested in E17, they should really consider buying E9 as the amp, when they want to upgrade. I think this is a very economical set up for those who want both a fairly decent DAC and Amp. You have to spend much much more to buy a DAC+cable+AMP, IMO.

house of DAP has it in stock.... is this **** real???

Not many reviews so I am a little sketchy

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delgadido said:

house of DAP has it in stock.... is this **** real???

Not many reviews so I am a little sketchy

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Be careful!  At the top of the FiiO E17 page it says,"Store is under maintenance. Any orders placed will not be honored or fulfilled."
 

Anyone knows if the E17 requires any form of burn-in at all?
 
Thank you.

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sniperbombers said:

sniff! im so sad that i only recently received my E7 in the mail like 2 weeks ago. Now im reading about the E17. 

*Sad Panda*

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you can reutrn
 
 
house of DAP? has it...they either went and personally bought it from a fiio distro when it came out.......or else they can't possibly have it. sure they could have bought it from mp4nation. but they would make a very very small profit. and there weren't many to buy from mp4nation 
 
 

duyu said:

bowei, I can't make any general comment yet, because E17+E9 is the only thing DAC+AMP I have listened.
 
For a responsible review, I make all comments based on comparisons between different settings I can made.
 
I would make some comment on whether E17+E9 is worth buying later on. I notice there is improvement after 10 hours listening. As what I have said, if you compare E17 with an ipod or other mp3 players. It is a very significant upgrade. Improvements on clarity, soundstage, bass are significant.
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I have one suggestion for those who own high impedance headphones (>=300OHM)and interested in E17, they should really consider buying E9 as the amp, when they want to upgrade. I think this is a very economical set up for those who want both a fairly decent DAC and Amp. You have to spend much much more to buy a DAC+cable+AMP, IMO.
 

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i see...... you are right in that sense. so i guess we would need to see what other owners of the HD600/650 and E17 with other amps and dac's say about it

@Bowei006 - if i was able to return it i would, but i ordered the E7 through Ebay... i guess im gonna have to be using this until it gives.

 
 
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@Bowei006 - if i was able to return it i would, but i ordered the E7 through Ebay... i guess im gonna have to be using this until it gives.

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  well since u ordered through ebay im going to guess it's cheaper than normal. so it's probably a good deal

I did the second batch of pre-orders from mp4nation and opted for the Fedex shipping. Hopefully it will arrive the third week of Feb.

I am wondering if it is even worth it doing the preorder. you dont think they will be overloaded on pre-orders already?

mp4nation did take down their post when their first batch ran out. that's a good sign that they will take it down once it becomes unaviable. since they can handle the first batch. they can do this one. mp4nation sells to china. fiio E17 is small. it's like a fly in terms of orders. chinese products being sold count way way more

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I as well as most users have not experienced any problems. I have some problems with electrical interferance. But thats it, and its due to my wires bring on top of n electrical cable. Easily fixed for me

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There are several posts here by multiple people reporting problems with the E17 unit. Perhaps the voices are being drowned out, but they do exist.
 
In fact, you yourself have posted issues with your unit on more than one occassion. Don't say you "have not experience any problems" (that would be lying). Did you delete your posts? (I'm not wasting time to check.)

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There are several posts by here by multiple people reporting problems with the E17 unit. Perhaps they voices are being drowned out, but they do exist.
 
In fact, you yourself have posted issues with your unit on more than one occassion. Don't say you "have not experience any problems" (that would be lying). Did you delete your posts? (I'm not wasting time to check.)

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no the problem i experienced WAS the problem i said myself right up there. further testing revealed it to be my headphone and otpical cable getting interefereance from laying on top of my lamp's electrical wire.(i actually did a small correction. on why i got the interferance and said it was this..but it was many pages after the initial post on the problem so some didn't see it) and sorry. i post a lot. im not wasting my time to delete or edit any of my hundred posts on this thread and no i didn't lie. i fixed the problem i thought i was having. it was just intereferance from something else and not E17 unit itself. the headphone osciallitng due to digital volume from what i have heard and seen is normal and fixes itself. only problem is...the rattle 
 
hmm and sorry i said "have not experienced any problems" that would be indeed lying and my fault. bad wording on my part >_ < yes i have had experienced problems...and i was the one that caused them (one of the factors that i knew had to have been caused by me as nobody else experienced the buzz except one more person) and the oscilating sound was rectified by CLIEOS and common sense. i posted a long post on what i was hearing when i upped the volume. that is fixed. all that's left is a rattle. but that wouldn't count per say as i didn't experience any problems with the rattle. you took my "have not experienced any problems" literally so i guess i can use the same here " 
 
but none the less. i admit my mistake and am sorry for saying "have not experienced any problems" and will ......idk....i can't possible read everything word for word and think abotu standard english all the time
 

No worries. I just don't want FiiO to walk away thinking there haven't been any major issues.
 
In all honesty, that static I was having has not cropped up in the last 3 days. Don't know why and I'm not complaining. I just wish it was something FiiO could experience so that they could run the issue to the ground.

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No worries. I just don't want FiiO to walk away thinking there haven't been any major issues.
 
In all honesty, that static I was having has not cropped up in the last 3 days. Don't know why and I'm not complaining. I just wish it was something FiiO could experience so that they could run the issue to the ground.

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sadly all the issues we are saying...are very hard to reproduce. all the way from the OS issue to the sound buzz thing. the OS is the hardest. the buzz. isn't that hard. but considering a lot aren't saying anything and mine was fixed..that's hard too...now...there's that rattle
 
but then agin...how many DAC's and amp's do you know ...don't have any of these issues? this is usually said:
1: STUPID (Inster company here), the (product here) won't instal or work with my computer! 
2: There's something loose..maybe?
3: i thougth i heard some buzzing or static with my amp..but ti's not there anymore.
 
other than 2.....yeah.. number 1 is so common. yes they should look into it. but ....it's very hard. two is something they can and definatley should look into. 3..maybe cause from burn in? maybe. some say solid state doesn't need it. i don't know what to say. op amps getting used tohigher voltage? im not a very deep sound science expert here..so i know what i just said my sound stupid. but sometimes the stupidest things are actually what's causing it and even the college learned people could be wrong. for example. some voltage or electrical gguy on endgadget tried to disprove amplifiers as doing anything saying the bigger battery this, voltage swing this, this and that..and in the end was wrong.
 
friom a post fiio gave. it seems they actually looked at it. they said something about. no problems detected or bugs so the third batch(they call second) will just feature a change where the words ALPEN will be on the device. so yeah it seems they did do some testing..and of course found nothing