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May 23, 2014 at 2:36 PM Post #24,781 of 101,292
I beleive we have pretty similar tastes....those tenores are the real deal. Just got mine yesterday and not even burned in yet
So I have to take back what I stated I wouldn't do. Was able to get the Tenore for like $30 buck from Amazon.jpn, along with the CKR-9. I should see both early next week. I always believe in hearing for yourself; so I will finally see how the Tenore stacks up with the (to my ears) outstanding Doppio.  Still might go for the CKR-10 ... We'll see.
 
May 23, 2014 at 2:46 PM Post #24,782 of 101,292
I beleive we have pretty similar tastes....those tenores are the real deal. Just got mine yesterday and not even burned in yet

 
mikaveli06 base on what I'm reading from you and other head-fiers I trust, I have no doubt that the Tenores are something special. And also base on the ZA company and what I'm experiencing from their Doppio (which now I have to say is the best dual BA earphone I've ever heard). I'm just really curious if the Tenore can beat that the Doppio. If it can, then it's really something as an earphone. dr.bluenewmexico says it doesn't, and I'm more inclined to trust him since he's heard both and we have similar opinions too on earphones and headphones we've heard. I appreciate your input. Give us some more impressions, please, after bun-in. 
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May 23, 2014 at 3:07 PM Post #24,783 of 101,292
 
Do they stand out because they're 1/2 the price of Tenore and KC06, or do they also stand out because you also find them better?


I don't find them better in SQ but they have an unexpected full smooth capable balanced sound with some amazing bass for $25..
 
As I stated before the Tenors have it on them on a technical level but for enjoying your music and not missing much in sound I was very surprised how good the SHE9710 sounded.. I found myself gravitating toward the engaging sound of the SHE9710 more and more.
 
All of them sound great actually. I was very surprised how good the FX650 sounded as well. Guys that don't have the cash to get a FX850 will be pretty happy with the FX650.. Sure it is not as refined but it has similar sound characteristics to it's big brother in sound and sounds great out of a simple dap. 
 
May 23, 2014 at 3:30 PM Post #24,786 of 101,292

 




just make sure your getting the newer SHE9710 and not the older SHE9701 variants.. They look the same on pictures.

Throw in a pair of Tenors too. Gotta maximize that shipping and handling.

Update on Singolo and CKR5 arrival:

Tenso shipped the goods will arrive next week. Look forward to getting both.

Any chance of an A/B including the Philips and MH1?
 
May 23, 2014 at 3:59 PM Post #24,789 of 101,292
mikaveli06 base on what I'm reading from you and other head-fiers I trust, I have no doubt that the Tenores are something special. And also base on the ZA company and what I'm experiencing from their Doppio (which now I have to say is the best dual BA earphone I've ever heard). I'm just really curious if the Tenore can beat that the Doppio. If it can, then it's really something as an earphone. drmexico says it doesn't, and I'm more inclined to trust him since he's heard both and we have similar opinions too on earphones and headphones we've heard. I appreciate your input. Give us some more impressions, please, after bun-in. :beerchug:
I dont mean to imply its better than doppios as I only had breif listen to doppios also. But they are a very easy listening and engaging iem. Bass is much better than I expected, but its got a complete package of sound and stage that rivals anything ive heard. It has excelled at any genre ive thrown at it and has no real weakness. Just pop them in and hit shuffle. From brief time with doppios, id have to say doppio was more reference and tenores more engaging/musical. Im looking forward to getting doppios again and would love to hear singulos also.

For anyone who has heard both, does the heaven v do anything better than tenores?
 
May 23, 2014 at 4:25 PM Post #24,790 of 101,292
I dont mean to imply its better than doppios as I only had breif listen to doppios also. But they are a very easy listening and engaging iem. Bass is much better than I expected, but its got a complete package of sound and stage that rivals anything ive heard. It has excelled at any genre ive thrown at it and has no real weakness. Just pop them in and hit shuffle. From brief time with doppios, id have to say doppio was more reference and tenores more engaging/musical. Im looking forward to getting doppios again and would love to hear singulos also.

For anyone who has heard both, does the heaven v do anything better than tenores?

No worries ...lol. I didn't think you were implying anything. Just making conversation. Happy listening.
 
May 23, 2014 at 4:41 PM Post #24,791 of 101,292
No offense to the Doppio but I prefer listening to the Tenore over them. There's really not much to fault about them except that it won't get to ear splitting volume levels from your typical mobile phone. Sound is extremely smooth from top to bottom with plenty of fun factor in the mix. Every earphone has some sort of faults, even the extremely expensive ones but the Tenore's are very linear. I still find other phones that sound better to me but Tenore's will suit all music and more listeners than most. I can hear the attraction they put out.
 
May 23, 2014 at 5:26 PM Post #24,792 of 101,292
I think the main difference of the phones is that the Tenors are smooth in all ranges including treble with a balance that is about as good as it will get and more sub bass focus over mid bass. The Doppios on the other had while having ample bass is more skewed toward highs and mids frequencies which makes them more revealing of bad recordings and lesser quality sounds in general.
 
Detail wise the Doppios will pick up everything with almost too much authority which makes for one of the most revealing phones out there and that could be a good thing or a bad depending on what your listening to.  The Doppios out of the right source is stupendous just amazing but  where the Tenor will shine is with simple and ease of use with outstanding sound quality out of pretty much everything. In comparison the treble and mids are more smoothed out vs the more clinical/reference type presentation of the Doppios.. Makes for not only an easier to listen to presentation but for what it cost is a no brainer.. It is one for the collection for certain.  
 
I think the Singolos will close the gap between the Zero audio signatures in one nicely defined BA. Or at least that is what I am picking up on reading Dr Blue and Hairy's  description of them.. Will report as soon as I receive those. I suspect they should compete well with the FAD phones for a musical presentation.
 
The dark horse in this new batch of phones I will be getting could be the CKR5s.. Which I hope is a more refined CKM500.  Fingers crossed on that.
 
May 23, 2014 at 6:53 PM Post #24,793 of 101,292
So this is interesting. The SHE9710 shows up on Amazon as a Japan import only.. So they seem to be a region specific product. Sold for no less than $86..You know this sound for $86? I can see it. It sounds like a sub $100 earphone. This proves yet once again the Japanese always get the cool stuff.
 
May 23, 2014 at 7:08 PM Post #24,794 of 101,292
  So this is interesting. The SHE9710 shows up on Amazon as a Japan import only.. So they seem to be a region specific product. Sold for no less than $86..You know this sound for $86? I can see it. It sounds like a sub $100 earphone. This proves yet once again the Japanese always get the cool stuff.

Nah, it's not just Japan it's Asia in general. Nowadays all the cool stuff is there. The difference is that the Japanese sellers always try to make a killing and double or even triple their investments, which is a very weird mentality if you ask me. 
 
May 23, 2014 at 9:13 PM Post #24,795 of 101,292
  I think the main difference of the phones is that the Tenors are smooth in all ranges including treble with a balance that is about as good as it will get and more sub bass focus over mid bass. The Doppios on the other had while having ample bass is more skewed toward highs and mids frequencies which makes them more revealing of bad recordings and lesser quality sounds in general.
 
Detail wise the Doppios will pick up everything with almost too much authority which makes for one of the most revealing phones out there and that could be a good thing or a bad depending on what your listening to.  The Doppios out of the right source is stupendous just amazing but  where the Tenor will shine is with simple and ease of use with outstanding sound quality out of pretty much everything. In comparison the treble and mids are more smoothed out vs the more clinical/reference type presentation of the Doppios.. Makes for not only an easier to listen to presentation but for what it cost is a no brainer.. It is one for the collection for certain.  
 
I think the Singolos will close the gap between the Zero audio signatures in one nicely defined BA. Or at least that is what I am picking up on reading Dr Blue and Hairy's  description of them.. Will report as soon as I receive those. I suspect they should compete well with the FAD phones for a musical presentation.
 
The dark horse in this new batch of phones I will be getting could be the CKR5s.. Which I hope is a more refined CKM500.  Fingers crossed on that.

i agree with all of the above comments and insights! the Tenores are smooth as silk and jack-of-all trades, while the Doppios are reference level revealing microscopic phones.  Tenores ON THE AVERAGE will be better for a lot, but for PEAK PERFORMANCE EXPERIENCES go with the DOPPIOS.
SINGULOS are gorgeous combination of both qualities.  Im keeping all three.  Looking forward to your CKR5, 9, and 10 comparisons DS! I'm hoping to get a Pandora V soon to add to the mix...and eventually the FX850.  
 
Heres the rub:  i carry the SINGULOS with me when i leave the house in my pocket because they have the best qualities of the Tenores and Doppios, like DannyBoi said of the the Tenores "out of the phone are great" but capable of higher level performance if amped or connected to a powered usb dac like the Dragonfly or Geekout, from a laptop.  the DOPPIOS i save for SERIOUS listening.
from my DX50 or out of my iUSB / gemini cabled GO750 set up.  They have potential of very special high end audio GOOSEBUMP magic that is more than good, it is shamanic listening into the fabric of space time and music that creates synthesis and trance states of total absorption.  I can get that some of the time from the Singulos and Tenores, (and some other oems) but the Doppios are the Hubble Telescope of sound imagery for me. When Shpongle released their new YoungerBrother App today with new remixes of classic EDM songs from their 2011 album the Doppios were the phone i wanted to hear the new mixes on...right away....kudos to Zero Audio for ALL their phones.  can you imagine a Zero Audio hybrid???? hope thats down the ZA pike...
ps  for their price points, the TENORES are for sure the best  bargain value, the SINGULOS a fair deal, and the Doppios to me are priceless...Some vendor should create a 3pack of all of them together for a special price! 
 

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