The discovery thread!
Nov 7, 2013 at 3:50 AM Post #16,471 of 101,430
 
  ^ The whole thing is strange as hell, he didn't even give in depth impressions, nor a proper writeup/ review then is already sending them out to some stupid auditioning tour??? It's a $20 IEM for god sake!!! Just get one if you are THAT interested cuz shipping alone is like 1/3 of the price of the IEM.
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Inks seems like he doesn't know what the hell he is doing tbh.
 

 
I am so disappointed with the whole thing.
I was looking forward to his reviews so I can then figure out what his sound preference really is once I get to review my pair.
Now, it's all gone to thin air...
 
So, I guess Inks will continue to be a mystery to me 
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Nov 7, 2013 at 4:05 AM Post #16,472 of 101,430
Its official: I hate to say it, but I like the Gratitudes more than my AD900X. I'm not sure how to explain it yet, but it's almost they are too airy. It makes them sound thin like there is no weight to the notes. Also the sound is a lot more neutral and not nearly as exciting. I guess I prefer a more fun, colored sound. I'm really hoping the X3 will change this, if not I'll sell them to my friend who loves them.
 
Nov 7, 2013 at 4:10 AM Post #16,473 of 101,430
I finally understand what people meant by lack of imagery with the AD900X. Even though they are clearer than the Gratitudes they don't sound as real to me because it doesn't create as clear of a mental picture.
 
Nov 7, 2013 at 4:11 AM Post #16,474 of 101,430
   
I am so disappointed with the whole thing.
I was looking forward to his reviews so I can then figure out what his sound preference really is once I get to review my pair.
Now, it's all gone to thin air...
 
So, I guess Inks will continue to be a mystery to me 
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Welp i think i have figured out what that dood is all about. He is as anal and text book as one can get me thinks. The IEM/ said gear HAS to measure almost dead flat and sounds near dead flat in order for him to be considered as worthy or worthwhile buy.
 
It doesn't matter how amazing the said gear sounds in reality cuz if the graph is poorly graphed he will rip on them like there is no tomorrow. He is a true graph Nazi it seems and is "selective" or cheery picks all of the technical mumble jumble in order to support his biases. Everything has it's place and no doubt those fancy charts, etc, etc, etc is valuable but it sadly only tell part of the sound signature/ capabilities.
 
Oh and i have wanted to say this for a longggg time, i feel kinda sad for those that has been in this hobby but has yet to experience the burn-in phenomenon, i mean reality. For people that have had soooo much "expertise" and experience with iems but have never heard a said gear change in real time as the result of burn-in then they must have REALLY bad ears or is just too oblivious to what they are hearing/ doing. I mean not ALL gears has the potential to change for the better cuz it is dependent on the tech/ materials, but A LOT of the new gears today use very "exotic" materials that are crazy stiff/ never used before in audio gear history and when it is mass produced like that, it is difficult to keep the sound 100% consistent. 
 
But yeah if burn-in was not real then why in all the aspects of this audio hobby, such as cables, diaphragms, drivers, etc etc etc people all claim that there is some affect as the result of burn-in???
 
/rant
 
Troll School OVA'
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Nov 7, 2013 at 4:38 AM Post #16,475 of 101,430
Seems as if they've never taught this in Troll Elementary.


I don't mind if people believe in goblins. What I find ridiculous out of all of this, are the occasions where people dedicate time specifically for burn-in.
 
That's unintuitive as hell. 
 
Just listen to the damned things as they "burn-in", and let them do their work. 
 
Think about it. It's not as if the process would stop when they're in your ears.
 
People spend countless hours not listening to gear they pay good money for, so they can re-affirm that there is a difference each time. Let that sink in for a second.
 
It's such a masochistic act. 
 
Leave them in your ears, not in some dusty closet.
 
Nov 7, 2013 at 4:39 AM Post #16,476 of 101,430
  Here goes.  
 
MA750's have a grander sound all together.  Bass is fuller on the MA750 but the Gratitudes hit fast and has this texture that's really incredible.  I think the Gratitudes might have the best bass I've heard in awhile.  Vocals are much fuller on the MA750's.  Makes the Gratitudes sound thin.  Treble is sparklier on the Gratitudes but the MA750's are smoother.  The MA750's have an overall surround sound effect and the Gratitudes sound closed in when compared.  Fit on both can be tricky and will affect the sound.  I like both a lot but I still give the edge to the MA750's for overall presentation.  

DannyBai,
 
I know this is a stupid question, but...
Any IEMs below $400 you've heard that's remotely closest to (/half of) what your 1plus2 can do SQ-wise? 
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Nov 7, 2013 at 4:46 AM Post #16,477 of 101,430
  Seems as if they've never taught this in Troll Elementary.


I don't mind if people believe in goblins. What I find ridiculous out of all of this, are the occasions where people dedicate time specifically for burn-in.
 
That's unintuitive as hell. 
 
Just listen to the damned things as they "burn-in", and let them do their work. 
 
Think about it. It's not as if the process would stop when they're in your ears.
 
People spend countless hours not listening to gear they pay good money for, so they can re-affirm that there is a difference each time. Let that sink in for a second.
 
It's such a masochistic act. 
 
Leave them in your ears, not in some dusty closet.


They need to be kept in the hermetically sealed  chamber at 0 Kelvin next to your Strad for burn in. Everyone knows that. Listening during burn in will actually de train your finely tuned hearing and ruin you for life.Failing to isolate the device during burn in may result in neighborhood dogs and other wildlife overrunning your domicile as the free radical harmonics radiate outwards.
 
Nov 7, 2013 at 4:47 AM Post #16,478 of 101,430
   
I am so disappointed with the whole thing.
I was looking forward to his reviews so I can then figure out what his sound preference really is once I get to review my pair.
Now, it's all gone to thin air...
 
So, I guess Inks will continue to be a mystery to me 
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Lol yeah
 
Almost felt cheated as he blasted all discoveries as nothing but hype and paraded his claims but when he's just about to go for the kill himself and then poof he's gone with no detailed impressions of his own to prove his own claims about the whole EQ-thing. He sure got some good timing 
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Was so excited to finally see some real action from him... so anti-climactic 
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Nov 7, 2013 at 4:52 AM Post #16,479 of 101,430
  Seems as if they've never taught this in Troll Elementary.


I don't mind if people believe in goblins. What I find ridiculous out of all of this, are the occasions where people dedicate time specifically for burn-in.
 
That's unintuitive as hell. 
 
Just listen to the damned things as they "burn-in", and let them do their work. 
 
Think about it. It's not as if the process would stop when they're in your ears.
 
People spend countless hours not listening to gear they pay good money for, so they can re-affirm that there is a difference each time. Let that sink in for a second.
 
It's such a masochistic act. 
 
Leave them in your ears, not in some dusty closet.


^ Dood this Twinkie must be in special ed, let alone worthy to be in elementary. How the hell are you suppose to "listen" to your damn gears when it's on max volume FULL BLAST FOOL!!! You wanna go deaf???
 
From my experience only such high volume/ bass heavy burn-in methods works the best, cuz i have tried pink, white the entire rainbow of noises and none seem to work as well as fast bass heavy music.
 
Cuz i don't wanna go deaf is the reason i don't listen to my said gears while beating the crap outta' those drivers during burn-in durrr!!! Sheeeeesh NOOBS!!! The hell outta' here with that nonsense!!!
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Nov 7, 2013 at 5:19 AM Post #16,480 of 101,430
  They need to be kept in the hermetically sealed  chamber at 0 Kelvin next to your Strad for burn in. Everyone knows that. Listening during burn in will actually de train your finely tuned hearing and ruin you for life.Failing to isolate the device during burn in may result in neighborhood dogs and other wildlife overrunning your domicile as the free radical harmonics radiate outwards.

I didn't get the fax.
 
  ^ Dood this Twinkie must be in special ed, let along worthy to be in elementary. 

Assuming you're still pre-fetal then.
 
Nov 7, 2013 at 8:29 AM Post #16,481 of 101,430
Ahhhh, my wake up music.....
 
Nov 7, 2013 at 12:36 PM Post #16,484 of 101,430
DannyBai, a question kind of in the same vein: What sound signature under $500 comes close to the 1Plus2, rather what performs as good respectively base on price?
 
Nov 7, 2013 at 12:40 PM Post #16,485 of 101,430
When I was demoing the 1P2, I received the M200 at the time. I thought back then it was quite impressive against the 1P2.

Have you tried the DN1000?  I was choosing between the M200 and the DN1000 and although I am extremely happy with the DN1K, I am still curious about hte sound of the M200. Just worried about fit and comfort.
 

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