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Jun 22, 2013 at 11:57 PM Post #11,161 of 100,960
According to Hifiman, the cables are now kevlar-like in durability which is good news!
 
Jun 23, 2013 at 12:54 AM Post #11,162 of 100,960
The price of the RE-600 is so high though, is it really that much better than all the other dynamic driver flagships LOL.
 
Sony, Audio Technica, Ocharaku, Vsonic etc.
 
Jun 23, 2013 at 1:34 AM Post #11,163 of 100,960
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The price of the RE-600 is so high though, is it really that much better than all the other dynamic driver flagships LOL.
 
Sony, Audio Technica, Ocharaku, Vsonic etc.


How much are they??? Like $200.
 
Damn all of them Chinaman HEs REs be crazy $$$s. Good thing i am a basshead and don't like bass sissy stuff, pheeeew.
 
Jun 23, 2013 at 1:38 AM Post #11,164 of 100,960
HIfiman RE-600 = $399 
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Jun 23, 2013 at 1:57 AM Post #11,167 of 100,960
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It's good enough that a reviewer considered it's better than his entire IEM and CIEM collection. That, and each people value things differently anyway, for example I found most celebrated "bass-heavy" cans sounds like fart cannon.


Will like i said i am just glad my noob @ss is bassheadish and those might be too bass sissy for my liking.
 
But do care to inform us what those "most celebrated 'bass-heavy' cans" sounding like fart cannons that you speak of. A few examples would be wonderful.
 
I hope you ain't talking about no beats cuz the bass on the studios i heard was weakkkkkkkkkkk!!! Even the monoprice DJ cans had better, and more powerful bass. Was expecting fart cannons but got nothing, what a TOTAL disappointment given that beats are known to be ALL BASS and nothing else.
 
Jun 23, 2013 at 2:31 AM Post #11,169 of 100,960
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At a $400 price point, there really could be some removable cable magic going on. It's nice to get premium features with your premium sound that yore buying at a premium price.


ehhh my cheapo corecool V2s comes with 2 cables and it's removable. All audio gears over $200 should have detachable cables imo. Unless the manufacturer claim that they use crazy high quality materials on the cables which makes detachable not possible or something, but i doubt it affects the sound like that though.
 
I still don't get popular manufacturers like ATH, JVC, AKG, etc not putting detachable cables on their portable cans. I mean it might cost them slighly more to make it but if you design your cans to be true portables, removable cables should be a given these days.
 
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Jun 23, 2013 at 2:41 AM Post #11,170 of 100,960
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Will like i said i am just glad my noob @ss is bassheadish and those might be too bass sissy for my liking.
 
But do care to inform us what those "most celebrated 'bass-heavy' cans" sounding like fart cannons that you speak of. A few examples would be wonderful.
 
I hope you ain't talking about no beats cuz the bass on the studios i heard was weakkkkkkkkkkk!!! Even the monoprice DJ cans had better, and more powerful bass. Was expecting fart cannons but got nothing, what a TOTAL disappointment given that beats are known to be ALL BASS and nothing else.


The fabled M50, 1R, HE400 and some other which I don't care to remember about. As always, YMMV.
 
Jun 23, 2013 at 3:01 AM Post #11,171 of 100,960
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The fabled M50, 1R, HE400 and some other which I don't care to remember about. As always, YMMV.


ehhh, you consider those to be "bass heavy" cans???
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Never heard any of those but have read a great deal on them. None of them are truly audiophile grade bass cans. The Sony 1Rs seems to be mid-centric with only a slight emphasis on the lows, which was what surprised a lot of people me thinks. The M50s has some emphasis on the lows but they are not basshead levels for sure, cuz many have said those cheapo monoprice DJ cans sounds very similar to them, and those for sure does not cut the cheese as a true basshead can. And aren't those HE400 open backs??? I doubt the bass in those can hang with close cans.
 
You might want to check the ATH WS99, ATH AD900, those new Philips X1s, etc cuz i doubt they will sound like fart cannons.
 
Jun 23, 2013 at 3:12 AM Post #11,172 of 100,960
As I said, your mileage may vary *shrug* I've had AD900 it sounds very strange to me, can't find WS99 on local headphone shop to try, I may have seen X1 somewhere that I could try. For now HP100 is about perfect for me though, doubt it could get much better without spending thousands.
 
Jun 23, 2013 at 3:26 AM Post #11,173 of 100,960
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As I said, your mileage may vary *shrug* I've had AD900 it sounds very strange to me, can't find WS99 on local headphone shop to try, I may have seen X1 somewhere that I could try. For now HP100 is about perfect for me though, doubt it could get much better without spending thousands.


Oh right probably misinterpreted what you wrote by "most celebrated "bass-heavy" cans sounds like fart cannon".  You have a point regarding the ATH M50s cuz they are for sure the most popularly recommended being tried and true. But they are old tech though and there are much better/cheaper cans out there that can out do them, great example is your beloved JVC S500.
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Those M50s are good, but it's probably not as good as most people make them out to be esp. with all the crazy new tech that is out currently.  But i wouldn't say they are "fart cannons", cuz that's wayyy to harsh meng, so i am sure you must be just trolling with that statement. Or maybe you're just uppity and really think that way. You should post this in the M50 appreciation thread tbh. :  P
 
Jun 23, 2013 at 3:53 AM Post #11,174 of 100,960
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Oh right probably misinterpreted what you wrote by "most celebrated "bass-heavy" cans sounds like fart cannon".  You have a point regarding the ATH M50s cuz they are for sure the most popularly recommended being tried and true. But they are old tech though and there are much better/cheaper cans out there that can out do them, great example is your beloved JVC S500.
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Those M50s are good, but it's probably not as good as most people make them out to be esp. with all the crazy new tech that is out currently.  But i wouldn't say they are "fart cannons", cuz that's wayyy to harsh meng, so i am sure you must be just trolling with that statement. Or maybe you're just uppity and really think that way. You should post this in the M50 appreciation thread tbh. :  P


Yeah, I've had S400 since I value mid much more than bass and most review state that it has better balance than S500 while retaining the sound sig . Gues what? They're good but not quite CAL good (which I think is the best headphone money can buy under $100 despite its shortcoming), imho it's another overhyped cans or maybe lots of people have similar taste different than mine, I'm fine with that.
 
I never like M50 since the day I tried it from my loaner pair some years ago, and has posted just about that whenever I talked about it. I rarely mince my word regarding something, that's honestly what I think about those cans. If people are offended about that I'm sorry but it won't ever change what I think or hear.
 
Jun 23, 2013 at 4:20 AM Post #11,175 of 100,960
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Yeah, I've had S400 since I value mid much more than bass and most review state that it has better balance than S500 while retaining the sound sig . Gues what? They're good but not quite CAL good (which I think is the best headphone money can buy under $100 despite its shortcoming), imho it's another overhyped cans or maybe lots of people have similar taste different than mine, I'm fine with that.
 
I never like M50 since the day I tried it from my loaner pair some years ago, and has posted just about that whenever I talked about it. I rarely mince my word regarding something, that's honestly what I think about those cans. If people are offended about that I'm sorry but it won't ever change what I think or hear.

Welp all i gots to say is you done goofed by going for the S400s over the S500s. The S400s are ok if you like a easy relaxing listen, but the S500s are much more dynamic and engaging. I sold both of my S400s and has only kept my S500. I have no doubts the CALs sound better than the S400s, cuz they are like $20 for a reason and for that little these S400s is one hell of a great buy/ bargain for their sound. The CALs are like 2X as expensive and is coincidentally on par with the S500s price/ sound wise as well. Lots of people have posted that the S500s bests the CALs, but for you the CAL siggy might be your cup of tea more so... it all boils down to personal preferences at the end.
 
And yeah totally, i mean it is what it is and if you truly think that way who am i to say anything. I can appreciate all types of gears no matter their sound siggy or price (except for those MT-300s), so for me those M50s can't be THAT bad, i still want to try them one of of these days if i have the chance. They were on my radar for the longest minute but after the S500s came along it's all down hill from there. LoL
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