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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

 

No, I lack the quality equipment needed and even with the proper equipment it can be tricky, but I do know where to get stuff like that  :wink_face: . And yeah, Avenged Sevenfold in 24/192 vinyl rips too.

:p

Enlighten me oh mighty one! :eek:

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Originally Posted by quartertone View Post
 

:rolleyes:

http://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

 

Nah, we're not talking about a normal situation where the CD is made straight from the audio master without any more mastering and compression. In such a case yeah, the difference is little and might not be viable to waste all this space with the bigger files. This article is talking about a perfect scenario but there aren't that much quality CD recordings. In reality most CDs are pretty compressed and the Loudness War is still going strong. So we're not talking about a slight advantage in the dynamic range - we're talking about quite the difference. 

Of course, there are also cases where the vinyls also have compressed dynamic range or are just of bad quality.

 

@7S Cameron I actually checked on that and people seem to agree that the vinyl rips while having better dynamic range are of pretty bad quality but it's not the ripper's fault, who's actually ripped quite a lot of stuff - the opinion of all seems to be that just the Avenged Sevenfold vinyls are of sub-par quality.


Edited by kova4a - 9/21/13 at 3:52pm
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Originally Posted by jant71 View Post
 

Got my $5 Koss today.

They are what you might expect for $5. They come with very useable clear wide bore tips that are kinda firm. They will be worth keeping to try on other phones. Thin cable that is shiny and more plastic in feel. Close to the 3580 and CLR100 cable in appearance(very budget). Small straight plug and Y. The housing and strains are quite sturdy and nice. The fit is quite easy, very stable, comfy for me. The housings are pretty big and fill your ears and they don't seem to have vent holes so they isolate quite well.

 

They sound quite thick but in an enjoyable way. A nice size stage with the 13mm drivers and some room behind them in the housing and also the wide bore tips. The way that seems like burn-in will improve them. I'll see how they stack up to my CKP200 when they have enough hours on them. Not expecting much more than a good beater for the price.

 

At the $5 total cost the lifetime warranty is not in play since it costs more to replace them then just buying another if you happen to like them and wanted another pair.

 

Still a little fun to slum it in the ultra budget are once in a while and I may still try and mod them if possible. They won't turn out as good as the CLR100 but fun to try. Need to lay off my SA7 Ltd. for a while as well then get fresh ears on these Koss. My R3 also showed up, and while very beefy looking, they didn't survive the trip. May still get another pair if any more early production samples are left. Oh well.

What happened to your R3s? 

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Plugged them in and one side was nearly totally silent. It's there but only start to hear it when cranked up higher. I am sending them back to the U.S location. An early sample for sure, no L/R markings or lettering on the housings. Maybe Fed Ex beat on them :)


Edited by jant71 - 9/21/13 at 4:47pm
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Originally Posted by jant71 View Post
 

Plugged them in and one side was nearly totally silent. It's there but only start to hear it when cranked up higher. I am sending them back to the U.S location. An early sample for sure, no L/R markings or lettering on the housings. Maybe Fed Ex beat on them :)

 

mybe they tested what I wanted to test with these? you know, hang someone with it...

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Aha that sucks..I took another listen on my DX50 using the R3 and man it is hard to tell which player sounds nicer using the R3s. On one hand the treble seems a bit clearer on the DX50 but the mids on the Fiio seems to have more texture..I have to hear them again.. They do need a burn in by the way.

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mybe they tested what I wanted to test with these? you know, hang someone with it...

Yep, the cable is about as thick as the one on my Sony CD666's and the only earphone I've had with that thick a cord was the neck strap cable on my JVC NX55's

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@nick - I found the Torques:

 

 

 

They look like this without the valves.

 

The red (reference) values. Great metal build. The entire IEM is just solidly built.

 

As you can see (well not really, the camera's schiit) the valves work through varying tube shapes and openings. The grills are the same. No additional dampeners used. It's all in the tubes and the rims. I'll bring a better camera next time.

 

Black is the treble valve (basically a straight tube and grill) - this one sounded the best to me. Gave it some nice balance, unfortunately it accentuated the treble peaks (they're there). Yellow was the bass valve (conical tube inside) and they're a bloated mess. Reds are the reference, and they gave it a nice V-shaped balance. Still a bit tubby but not too bad. I'm just more partial to the blacks. The ones not seen in the picture (they're on the IEM) are the greens. I forgot what they do. A bit tubby sounding as well.

 

So all in all, they sounded nice. Very clean decay, not a lot of grain. The treble had some dips and peaks - less so on the red valves. More upper bass lingering but the mids aren't as thick as the M200s. I can't complain. If I could get the treble valve's bass quantity and smooth the treble into something like the red's I'd be happier. The kicker on these is the build. Stupendous metal, feels great in the hands. Flat cables are standard fare, not much to say about them. For the price, they'd do fine. I liked the mids more than the M200s - clearer. The stage is less flat and more of a spherical blob. 

 

 

The M200s are massive. Unbearable. Here's the RE-400 in comparison.

 

 

 

In my dainty ears.

They sound very tactile. Mids are a bit thick to my likings. I really dislike thick mids, but these are decently clean so I'll let them off the hook.

post #14499 of 26092
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

 

Nah, we're not talking about a normal situation where the CD is made straight from the audio master without any more mastering and compression. In such a case yeah, the difference is little and might not be viable to waste all this space with the bigger files. This article is talking about a perfect scenario but there aren't that much quality CD recordings. In reality most CDs are pretty compressed and the Loudness War is still going strong. So we're not talking about a slight advantage in the dynamic range - we're talking about quite the difference. 

Of course, there are also cases where the vinyls also have compressed dynamic range or are just of bad quality.

 

@7S Cameron I actually checked on that and people seem to agree that the vinyl rips while having better dynamic range are of pretty bad quality but it's not the ripper's fault, who's actually ripped quite a lot of stuff - the opinion of all seems to be that just the Avenged Sevenfold vinyls are of sub-par quality.

That's unfortunate, what about the Metallica rips? I've been trying to find vinyl rips for all my favorite bands, but it's been tough.

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 OK, so I uploaded my videos from the Rock Shop to YouTube (it seemed to take a day to upload 3 of them from my phone-no kidding. I had given up, then got  notice the next day that the upload was successful). Now, I know it seems basic, but I can't figure out how to get the videos into Head-Fi. I could copy the url, of course, and just post the link (that's what I've done before). Not that they"re the world's best videos-taken on a Droid Maxx, and only partial songs (don't like staring at my phone instead of at the band listening/dancing), just to get the flavor. How is this done?

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Let's see if this works...

 

YAY!!!!

post #14502 of 26092
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Originally Posted by TwinQY View Post
 

@nick - I found the Torques:

They look like this without the valves.

 

As you can see (well not really, the camera's schiit) the valves work through varying tube shapes and openings. The grills are the same. No additional dampeners used. It's all in the tubes and the rims. I'll bring a better camera next time.

So all in all, they sounded nice. Very clean decay, not a lot of grain. The treble had some dips and peaks - less so on the red valves. More upper bass lingering but the mids aren't as thick as the M200s. I can't complain. If I could get the treble valve's bass quantity and smooth the treble into something like the red's I'd be happier. The kicker on these is the build. Stupendous metal, feels great in the hands. Flat cables are standard fare, not much to say about them. For the price, they'd do fine. I liked the mids more than the M200s - clearer. The stage is less flat and more of a spherical blob. 

WOW Found them in your hand going home it looks like! Or is that at the store?

 

 What gets me specifically interested in them is if there is a decent driver itself then what sort of space are we looking at in there to add some tweakage to alter a bit of the slight undesirables.

 I'm talking like some Stax Micron Glasswool discs or pinch of Twaron Angelhair or even various foam plugs. Just enough to toy around within what the specific valve tips do. Yeah the modimicationing in my disturbed mind already.:wink: Sounds like this might be alterable like I hope. they come with 4 valves then right.

 

 

Can you let us know in a bit when they get a bit of time on them if these were indeed take-homes?

Interested to see how the would tone down , if at all, with a bit of pounding.( any mention of titanium or anything on them 'phrams )

 

 

A spherical staging, are you meaning around you, or out in front-around you?

 

THANKS for checking them out

 

 

I knew the KEF 200 were large but that is exxxtremely xxx large.

 

 

Am drawn to the Atomic Floyd Powerjax as well. That form factor seems pretty good fitting and their build is top notch from what I read also what little there is to read. Colour schemes a little beatsish unfortunately.


Edited by nick n - 9/21/13 at 8:22pm
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#2...

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#3, my club outing, Valley Lodge (2 cd's, the 1st a classic, the second meerly terrific, 3rd one either just about to come out or just out, haven't heard it yet, just a fun preview song on their web site)

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#1 is missing, reposting (hope I don't duplicate...)

 

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