[Vain III]

That's what I thought would happen. I don't expect them to beat the IM70, but I am surprised that they're so close. How is the comfort compared to the IM70? I have a spot of trouble every time I put them (IM70) in to find a proper seal because the memory wire gets in my way.

They are smaller in body than the IM70, Maybe a little smaller than the DN-1000 in body, so will probably fit you fine.

Great, I'll probably pick them up as a secondary to the IM70.

 

[vlenbo]

Yeah, I tried that foam mod thing with one of my spendier IEM's, and it actually didn't really do much for it except make the sound sharper and less engaging, so I made the choice never to make those kinds of modifications again. As for the M200, I'm sure some of you have a romantic view of them , and that's quite alright, because we all have those types of sentiments towards one IEM or another. Even I do with my UE 700. But in my opinion, the KEF M200 was a decent to excellent sounding IEM, that I was able to sell off without hesitation, due to the excellence of the Piston.

Agreed, that's how I heard it, though it didn't make it less engaging...
 
It only broke my hearing for a bit,
 
OHOHO! You think that I have a romantic view? 

 
If anything, the im-02s take that romantic view away from the kefs, I've left the kefs sitting in the dust while I enjoyed the im-02s and the h-3s more than the kefs! I'm just stating what I heard. 
 
You can state what you want with the kefs, I know how hard it was for you to enjoy them (especially when they died on you).
 
The fit, like eric, isn't much of a problem for me either, so that is why I enjoy them.

 

[sfwalcer]

  You might not like the h-3s,
 
You'll LOVE the doppios however! 
(Don't have the doppios obviously, but I trust dsnut's description of them, and soon, eric will probably wallow in the sound that is the doppios. even the im-02s come similar to those in SQ. The drums and bass on these things are astounding, and the doppios should be just as amazing. The bass and drums is another reason why I sometimes switch im-02 with the h-3s).
 
But the pistons should do the job quite well.

^ Meh those Doppios don't appeal to me whatsoever for some reason. Some stuff just don't catch my interest and those are one of them.
 

       I think you're going a little (read: a tad) overboard on them Pistons, meng. I may not have been able to get to hear that many IEMs (no try, just buy except for on-ear and over-ear), but hey, your opinion is yours, and those who like dark treble (a basshead?) is theirs. But anyway, at least we know one thing: The Pistons' hype is warranted, and that it could be one of the GOATs for $20 IEMs.
 
     Wait...I guess that's two things now. 

 

^ Yeppp agreed here mofos can go wayyyyyy overboard with the hype but it's THEIR opinion afterall so..... it is up to others to decide who is credible.
 

Yeah, I tried that foam mod thing with one of my spendier IEM's, and it actually didn't really do much for it except make the sound sharper and less engaging, so I made the choice never to make those kinds of modifications again. As for the M200, I'm sure some of you have a romantic view of them , and that's quite alright, because we all have those types of sentiments towards one IEM or another. Even I do with my UE 700. But in my opinion, the KEF M200 was a decent to excellent sounding IEM, that I was able to sell off without hesitation, due to the excellence of the Piston.

^ Dood WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKIN' about???!!!

It's a damn IEM for god sake, what romantic view??? You were praising them like it was the 2nd coming of god just like a week ago as you are currently doing with these Pistons, before they crapped out on you that is. How are you trying to burn now them just as you did with those Deltas. LMAO Don't go full_retard with your lamo 180s again meng. Save what little credibility you have left cuz it's a running joke here with the peps that knows you.  LMAO

 

[IEMagnet01]

Sorry folks, but the M200 is not all that, and I've owned two pairs, and granted one lasted all of two days before the LF driver went **** up, but I spent plenty of time with both combined to know it wasn't that AWWW WOW moment, so when I say the Piston did that, for me, it did that. Are the M200 worth $200 in my opinion? Hell no!! With the clunkiness and giant housings made for ill-fit? $100 would be a fair price. That's the way I see it. Am I hyping the Piston too much? I don't think so, because I see it as a far better value in sound that the M200 is capable. Now do I think it will be better than the DUNU or that it's better than the H3? No. Come now..that's three high quality drivers (including two BA's) vs one. Oh the blasphemy if the B3 turns our to be better than the M200?!

 

[thatBeatsguy]

 
   Dood WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKIN' about???!!!

It's a damn IEM for god sake, what romantic view??? You were praising them like it was the 2nd coming of god just like a week ago as you are currently doing with these Pistons, before they crapped out on you that is. How are you trying to burn now them just as you did with those Deltas. LMAO Don't go full_retard with your lamo 180s again meng. Save what little credibility you have left cuz it's a running joke here with the peps that knows you.  LMAO

+1 I agree with da Masa' Troll. He who don't agree with da Masa' Troll can and will be considered...uppity (whatever that means). 

 

[IEMagnet01]

^ Meh those Doppios don't appeal to me whatsoever for some reason. Some stuff just don't catch my interest and those are one of them.

^ Yeppp agreed here mofos can go wayyyyyy overboard with the hype but it's THEIR opinion afterall so..... it is up to others to decide who are credibility.

^ Dood WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKIN' about???!!! :rolleyes: It's a damn IEM for god sake, what romantic view??? You were praising them like it was the 2nd coming of god just like a week ago as you are currently doing with these Pistons, before they crapped out on you that is. How are you trying to burn now them just as you did with those Deltas. LMAO Don't go full_retard with your lamo 180s again meng. Save what little credibility you have left cuz it's a running joke here with the peps that knows you.  LMAO

I never liked the Deltas. I liked the M200. Always said it was an excellent IEM. When they WORKED. Which wasn't very long. Do I think they are $180 better than the Piston? Nope. They aren't even $50 better than the Piston. So relax fella. I'm not pee'ing in your Cheerios. Keep it civil. We 're allowed our opinions here. Thanks.

 

[vlenbo]

I never liked the Deltas. I liked the M200. Always said it was an excellent IEM. When they WORKED. Which wasn't very long. Do I think they are $180 better than the Piston? Nope. They aren't even $50 better than the Piston. So relax fella. I'm not pee'ing in your Cheerios. Keep it civil. We 're allowed our opinions here. Thanks.

You did, and then burned the kef m200 when they stopped working and decided to bring up the QC question.
 
What you stated just now is what sf already wrote down.

 

[drbluenewmexico]

  People like what they like, Some people like Beats more than the HD800. So when comparing the Pistons to something like the M200, what else do you have but fit and how they compare technically? Now, the M200 fits me like a glove, so fit is no issue, but that will vary person to person. Technically, in my opinion, there's no comparison. But the Pistons are good. I think anyone who is arguing the sound quality of the Pistons is near the M200's is being misleading (just like as much as I love the M200, I would never say it's sound beats the H3, even if I favor the M200's sound signature more). Again, my "elitist" opinions, and the Pistons are good, but no M200. 

SERIOUS listening with 3 days worth burned in Pistons:  very nice, a bit bright and bass still boomy.  probably needs lots more burn in, but a steal for the price indeed. but
not high end audio even though pleasing...my m200s blow them out of the water in all frequency ranges, and Onkyos hd300s also superior. i agree,  Kefs still the master ism under 200
iMO.  Pistons now down to 15.00 w free shipping on ebay.  look authentic, new version. such a deal!  Gratitudes though are magic for 60$ if you like the sound signature.  i haven't heard the
H3s or im02s, but the mdr7550s when on sale for 189.00 (as they are now and then) are still my champion for a flat monitor earphone...........
 
One day burn in report on DRAGONFLY v1.2 dad:  sound is getting liquid and tone improed dramatically.  sound is thicker with much more musicality than v1.
serious engineering improvements, more power, more instrument detail. at 150.00 seriously better than original, even when original is now 99.00  if you use computer audio
on the go this is the way to go for ultimate portability plus sound quality.  still benefits from external amp on output to headphones to control bass and drive of music.

 

[IEMagnet01]

I didn't burn their SQ. I burned their BQ. And based on my experience and the experience of several others here, the BQ is ****. Plain and simple. They have the BQ of the HiFiMan RE0, which had more returns than any IEM I can remember. Weak LF drivers. Does that mean I'm going to bust on their sound? No. Beautiful sound and thick lushness. Excellent. But am I going to glow on how they are built? Hell no. They are not very durable.

 

[thatBeatsguy]

I didn't burn their SQ. I burned their BQ. And based on my experience and the experience of several others here, the BQ is ****. Plain and simple. They have the BQ of the HiFiMan RE0, which had more returns than any IEM I can remember. Weak LF drivers. Does that mean I'm going to bust on their sound? No. Beautiful sound and thick lushness. Excellent. But am I going to glow on how they are built? Hell no. They are not very durable.

Hmmm...Burned (+) BQ = BBQ?
 
I could go for some BBQ right now.

 
 
Wait...what's BQ mean? Base Quality? Body Quality? Enlighten me, O Masa' Troll.

 

[IEMagnet01]

Hmmm...Burned (+) BQ = BBQ?

I could go for some BBQ right now.  

Wait...what's BQ mean? Base Quality? Body Quality? Enlighten me, O Masa' Troll.

I'm not a masa troll, or whatever that is . I assume is fan of Joe Bonamassa? BQ = build quality. Now you know. BBQ does sound good though. It's spaghetti and meatballs tonight though.

 

[waynes world]

  SERIOUS listening with 3 days worth burned in Pistons:  very nice, a bit bright and bass still boomy.  probably needs lots more burn in, but a steal for the price indeed. but
not high end audio even though pleasing...my m200s blow them out of the water in all frequency ranges, and Onkyos hd300s also superior. i agree,  Kefs still the master ism under 200
iMO.  Pistons now down to 15.00 w free shipping on ebay.  look authentic, new version. such a deal!  Gratitudes though are magic for 60$ if you like the sound signature.  i haven't heard the
H3s or im02s, but the mdr7550s when on sale for 189.00 (as they are now and then) are still my champion for a flat monitor earphone...........

 
Thank you drblue. A voice of reason.

 

[thatBeatsguy]

I'm not a masa troll, or whatever that is . I assume is fan of Joe Bonamassa? BQ = build quality. Now you know. BBQ does sound good though. It's spaghetti and meatballs tonight though.

     Ooh, nice -- don't get to eat any spaghetti often (IIRC only 4 times a year), but it's memorable each time (kinda like those B&O H6s I listened to with Hotel California running through them). Meh, can't get any BBQ right now though; I just woke up

.
 
     A Masa' Troll is, well, a Master Troll, which is the very title of SFWalcer himself.
 
     Oh, so a BQ is build quality. So close. I think I'll have some burned build quality for lunch. 

 

 

[vlenbo]

I didn't burn their SQ. I burned their BQ. And based on my experience and the experience of several others here, the BQ is ****. Plain and simple. They have the BQ of the HiFiMan RE0, which had more returns than any IEM I can remember. Weak LF drivers. Does that mean I'm going to bust on their sound? No. Beautiful sound and thick lushness. Excellent. But am I going to glow on how they are built? Hell no. They are not very durable.

Please enlighten me. When did I say that you burned their SQ?
 
You burned the KEFs, that's all I said, after they stopped working.

 

[IEMagnet01]

Voice of opinion. Not reason. Nothing is reasonable, but everything is open to OPINION. Thank you very much. Now back to my workout and my Piston. Zoom zoom!