The discovery thread!
Feb 7, 2013 at 2:49 PM Post #6,871 of 100,729
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Ah well guess i'll take one for the team then.
 
Tut tut, should make sarcasm a bit more obvious next time
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No reason to take a hit for a fake. Seriously I would see about getting your funds back.. You can get the Somic cans which will sound much better than these knock offs. I bet those won't even come in a box. I remember reading about fake M-50s. They will sound nothing like the real ones.
 
But what is interesting is those cans are getting some positive feedbacks. I am certain they are fakes. Even used M-50s go for something like $90..I am gonna LMAO if they end up being decent cans.. If you look at that pic. There is no AT logo on the cups. So those are fakes. They looks exactly like the M-50 with no logo on the cups.
 
Feb 7, 2013 at 4:47 PM Post #6,872 of 100,729
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No reason to take a hit for a fake. Seriously I would see about getting your funds back.. You can get the Somic cans which will sound much better than these knock offs. I bet those won't even come in a box. I remember reading about fake M-50s. They will sound nothing like the real ones.
 
But what is interesting is those cans are getting some positive feedbacks. I am certain they are fakes. Even used M-50s go for something like $90..I am gonna LMAO if they end up being decent cans.. If you look at that pic. There is no AT logo on the cups. So those are fakes. They looks exactly like the M-50 with no logo on the cups.

Careful, Dsnuts. A lot of their Beats fakes don't have any logos in the pictures, but have them on the actual product. It's a way to avoid copyright issues.
 
Anyway, have you gotten the Somics in yet? It's been a while since you've ordered them.
 
Feb 7, 2013 at 5:49 PM Post #6,873 of 100,729
I have them on the burn in. I think they sound good and punch above their price. I am using my Beyer DT250 velours on them.. Way more comfy and seem to expand the stage a bit..Right now as I hear them the highs are not all that extended which can be a good thing depending on ones sound preference and the lower half of the sound is not as tight as I would like it to be. Mids are centered well and have good detail.. The stage is similar to my HTF600. Which are also semiopen so no boxy sound here..I think you found a good one. They look more classier with my velour pads by the way. The looks in person is not as toyish as they look on line. They are built pretty solid actually. 
 
Feb 7, 2013 at 6:19 PM Post #6,874 of 100,729
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I have them on the burn in. I think they sound good and punch above their price. I am using my Beyer DT250 velours on them.. Way more comfy and seem to expand the stage a bit..Right now as I hear them the highs are not all that extended which can be a good thing depending on ones sound preference and the lower half of the sound is not as tight as I would like it to be. Mids are centered well and have good detail.. The stage is similar to my HTF600. Which are also semiopen so no boxy sound here..I think you found a good one. They look more classier with my velour pads by the way. The looks in person is not as toyish as they look on line. They are built pretty solid actually. 

Wait until they're done burning.
 
Also, if it's not sounding like a legitimate competitor to $200-ish phones (HM5, 840, AD900X maybe), try the 840 pads.
 
Because with the right pads, that's how it should be sounding.
 
Feb 7, 2013 at 6:33 PM Post #6,875 of 100,729
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Wait until they're done burning.
 
Also, if it's not sounding like a legitimate competitor to $200-ish phones (HM5, 840, AD900X maybe), try the 840 pads.
 
Because with the right pads, that's how it should be sounding.

And if you have to buy 840 pads, make sure you burn them in good too!  Now that my pads are burned in god, the SOMiCs are sounding even better! (I wonder if I am joking? ahaha )
 
Feb 7, 2013 at 6:39 PM Post #6,876 of 100,729
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And if you have to buy 840 pads, make sure you burn them in good too!  Now that my pads are burned in god, the SOMiCs are sounding even better! (I wonder if I am joking? ahaha )

Nope! No jokes there!

I think that the pads might get a bit...softer?...as time goes on, which changes the SQ for the better. Yeah. These thing burn in like champs.
 
Feb 7, 2013 at 7:42 PM Post #6,877 of 100,729
You know what this sound signature reminds me of. They sound like the full sized headphones of the MH1C. Lol. As crazy as that sounds.. The sound balance is very similar. Somewhat relaxed highs. A bit forward mids and and a consumer friendly bass end.. I threw on my HM5 pads. This sounds better than using the Velours I had earlier.. Will keep them on the burn.
 
Lol I just A/Bed against my MH1C..Sound signature is very similar like I thought. Hey this is good news as the MH1C punches above their price as well.
 
Feb 7, 2013 at 8:00 PM Post #6,878 of 100,729
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You know what this sound signature reminds me of. They sound like the full sized headphones of the MH1C. Lol. As crazy as that sounds.. The sound balance is very similar. Somewhat relaxed highs. A bit forward mids and and a consumer friendly bass end.. I threw on my HM5 pads. This sounds better than using the Velours I had earlier.. Will keep them on the burn.
 
Lol I just A/Bed against my MH1C..Sound signature is very similar like I thought. Hey this is good news as the MH1C punches above their price as well.

I take it that the upgrade from from the velours to the HM5 pads means one of two (or two of two) things.
 
  • Pleather just works better on them than velour.
  • The larger size of the HM5 pads allow them to completely engulf the ear, making for a closer proximity to the drivers, which in turn increases midrange and treble response.
 
Again, if this isn't sounding like a $200 headphone to you after more burn-in, try the 840 pads. If you give me a few weeks (pay day!), I'd even get you some if needed.
 
Feb 7, 2013 at 8:35 PM Post #6,879 of 100,729
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I take it that the upgrade from from the velours to the HM5 pads means one of two (or two of two) things.
 
  • Pleather just works better on them than velour.
  • The larger size of the HM5 pads allow them to completely engulf the ear, making for a closer proximity to the drivers, which in turn increases midrange and treble response.
 
Again, if this isn't sounding like a $200 headphone to you after more burn-in, try the 840 pads. If you give me a few weeks (pay day!), I'd even get you some if needed.

You can get me some (and I don't even have the headphone yet). lol

What a generous young man. We need more in the world like you! 
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Feb 7, 2013 at 8:51 PM Post #6,880 of 100,729
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You can get me some (and I don't even have the headphone yet). lol

What a generous young man. We need more in the world like you! 
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Yet. The key word is yet.
 
Thanks for the kind words, and the obviously non-alcoholic beverage! 
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Anyway, those amp people gave me a counter-offer of $15.
 
Well, I counter-offered with $13.
 
Wow, I'm cheap. xD
 
Feb 7, 2013 at 10:14 PM Post #6,881 of 100,729
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You know what this sound signature reminds me of. They sound like the full sized headphones of the MH1C. Lol. As crazy as that sounds.. The sound balance is very similar. Somewhat relaxed highs. A bit forward mids and and a consumer friendly bass end.. I threw on my HM5 pads. This sounds better than using the Velours I had earlier.. Will keep them on the burn.
 
Lol I just A/Bed against my MH1C..Sound signature is very similar like I thought. Hey this is good news as the MH1C punches above their price as well.

 
That was exactly what i said about the somic MH463s, but I have to say that the MH1C sounds more refined to me. The MH463 is almost there but somehow it feels a bit lacking in it's overall refinement. The soundstage is large but not as big as i had hoped to be, but the bass/ sub bass on the MH463s are amazingly big with the turtle beach pads since it is a fully open back set of cans. It seems like the Somic MTs are similar in sound as the MH463s because they also sound a bit similar to the MH1Cs.
 
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You can get me some (and I don't even have the headphone yet). lol

What a generous young man. We need more in the world like you! 
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Cash Da Balla'!!!
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Yet. The key word is yet.
 
Thanks for the kind words, and the obviously non-alcoholic beverage! 
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Anyway, those amp people gave me a counter-offer of $15.
 
Well, I counter-offered with $13.
 
Wow, I'm cheap. xD

 
Balla' on the cheap!
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I would have tried to low ball them as well.
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Feb 7, 2013 at 10:27 PM Post #6,882 of 100,729
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That was exactly what i said about the somic MH463s, but I have to say that the MH1C sounds more refined to me. The MH463 is almost there but somehow it feels a bit lacking in it's overall refinement. The soundstage is large but not as big as i had hoped to be, but the bass/ sub bass on the MH463s are amazingly big with the turtle beach pads since it is a fully open back set of cans. It seems like the Somic MTs are similar in sound as the MH463s because they also sound a bit similar to the MH1Cs.

Yep. This is about how I felt about them. I think it's that "veil".
 
These EFis are brilliant though, especially with the 840 pads (have I mentioned those pads enough yet?).
 
By the way, the EFi responds very well to EQ, I learned. They can bump to XB500+ levels without getting distorted. Craziness!
 
Feb 7, 2013 at 10:29 PM Post #6,883 of 100,729
Finally switched the SOMIC EFI-82MT pads with the 840 ones. Made a massive difference because of the comfort. I noticed with the stock pads that on some songs I felt a change in pressure inside the headphones which caused some discomfort. 
 
I'll finally leave my impressions. I seen some people ask about how they are for gaming and I feel with the big soundstage the positioning is good. I played Chivalry with them and even though hearing footsteps isn't really important in that game, in a battle where there are a lot of things going on the Somics do a good job separating everything so you know where everything is coming from. I haven't really tried them in CS, but I feel they'll work good for those games as well.
 
For music it does a very good job separating all the instruments and voices, which for me was the most noticeable thing when comparing it. I've listened to some dubstep songs with it and even though parts of a song can get cluttered with all the bass, it still separates everything well. Vocals that are drowned by bass, I can hear clearly and I can notice differences in positioning even when the singer is holding a note. 
 
Right now I have it connected to the ELE DAC and a Vintage Receiver and they definitely sound better with an amp. With just the ELE DAC they sound fine, but it doesn't sound as aggressive. 
 
For $40 I'd say they sound too good for the price, though I wouldn't say the same for the build quality because they feel kind of brittle.
 
Feb 7, 2013 at 10:33 PM Post #6,884 of 100,729
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Finally switched the SOMIC EFI-82MT pads with the 840 ones. Made a massive difference because of the comfort. I noticed with the stock pads that on some songs I felt a change in pressure inside the headphones which caused some discomfort. 
 
I'll finally leave my impressions. I seen some people ask about how they are for gaming and I feel with the big soundstage the positioning is good. I played Chivalry with them and even though hearing footsteps isn't really important in that game, in a battle where there are a lot of things going on the Somics do a good job separating everything so you know where everything is coming from. I haven't really tried them in CS, but I feel they'll work good for those games as well.
 
For music it does a very good job separating all the instruments and voices, which for me was the most noticeable thing when comparing it. I've listened to some dubstep songs with it and even though parts of a song can get cluttered with all the bass, it still separates everything well. Vocals that are drowned by bass, I can hear clearly and I can notice differences in positioning even when the singer is holding a note. 
 
Right now I have it connected to the ELE DAC and a Vintage Receiver and they definitely sound better with an amp. With just the ELE DAC they sound fine, but it doesn't sound as aggressive. 
 
For $40 I'd say they sound too good for the price, though I wouldn't say the same for the build quality because they feel kind of brittle.

Awesomeness! I can't wait to try them with the Arcatron.

By the way, if you find the bass too much, you can try removing the stock dampening material. I tried it, kinda liked it, but am more of a bass guy and I don't like sparkly treble, so I put it back in.
 
Feb 7, 2013 at 11:02 PM Post #6,885 of 100,729
I like a lot of everything; very deep bass, adequate mid-bass (punchy bass), center to forward full sounding mids without 2-3 kHz peaks, and abundant treble without 4-5 kHz peaks.  Do any of those Somics have all that once the right pads are on?
 

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