The discovery thread!
Jul 15, 2013 at 10:56 AM Post #11,986 of 101,312
True..I think control is key here as I love my acoustics and phones with less control will add bass to a sound that isn't supposed to be there..Those are the phones that I have issue with..Most cheapo bass heavy iems for example. Now as for the X1 the pads are excellent to begin with so not a real big deal for me. If you want an idea of how they sound you could try out the Fidelio S2 instead which are excellent as well.


Couldn't agree more... Control is key. Why I like the basso. Right amount of fun but still remaining technical. Not the best in any category but has a good balance of fun and technicality to be a great mid tier all a rounder for me.
 
Jul 15, 2013 at 11:14 AM Post #11,987 of 101,312
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RE-400 are awesome. The bass really surprised me on these. I was expecting them to be really bass light, but to my surprise they have more bass than I expected. The bass is about the same quantity as the Tenore's and maybe slightly less than my GR07 MKII's.

Have you made your comparisons of the RE-400 and Tenore anywhere?
 
Jul 15, 2013 at 3:55 PM Post #11,989 of 101,312
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Wouldn't need a picture, just another paragraph.

I just might add the FXZ200s, but have already wrote about them more than once so....
 
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Sfwalcer, after reading your review, which one would you say immerses you in the sound more, the xb90ex or the cks77x?

I would say the 77Xs is more immersive because they are more fun sounding, but if you want something with better technical ability the XB90EXs would be a better choice. Plus the flat cable on the 90EX is miles better than the extremely rubbery cable of the 77Xs. If you can get both for about the same price the 90EXs is a no brainer, but if you are on a budget and want a great sounding bass iem, you can't really go wrong with the 77Xs.
 
Jul 15, 2013 at 4:39 PM Post #11,990 of 101,312
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Actually. When the word basshead pops up there is a stigma attached to that. Because it has bass there for it must be kinda messy sounding, not as accurate or non audiophile, more consumer.
 
I look at it the other way. Most open cans lack bass for one reason or another. Since when have you guys ever heard live music without bass? Can you guys imagine how rock would sound without bass guitars or the thump of the bass drum?. Anyone that actually love real music that says bass gets in the way of music. Sure if you have 20 dbs of bass in the phones. You go to a live concert performance be it a grand orchestra or your favorite metal band or even at a club. To me without proper bass means it is missing up to a 3rd of the total sound. That ain't music. I have never in my life ever heard a proper speaker set up without bass. Even cheapo $50 book shelf speakers have bass response..
 
It is funny to me that on these very threads. Guys prefer as little bass as possible to hear the mids and highs more. Like that is supposed to be representative of actual music? Lol. Now I know before I draw some heat from people I know there are plenty of too bass heavy phones that have nothing to do with good sound but I never understood guys that actually are supposed to be "audiophiles" that want nothing to do with bass.. I said it before and I will say it again. Music without bass is like music without highs.
 
Without either part of the sound, that ain't music to my ears. I know Tyll on his review of the X1 says they are basshead cans.They aren't. As I am getting older I am appreciating quality more so than quantity and that is what the X1s represent. Quality of the low end is absolutely crucial for a nicer sounding can. You can get all the other part of the sound correct but you mess up on my bass. Too much, too little, lacking definition, lacking deep extension and texture. Not in my house. Is it wrong to ask for good sound in all parts of the sound signature?

This is why I always come to you for advice when it comes to headphones. I've said this almost exactly to my friends in the past. Mids are probably the most important part of the spectrum to me, but I don't care how good the mids are if the bass and/or highs are lacking; I want it all.
 
Jul 15, 2013 at 6:19 PM Post #11,991 of 101,312
http://www.uk.onkyo.com/en/products/ie-hf300-92573.html

Next iem purchase. Big driver... Detachable cable
 
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Jul 15, 2013 at 8:53 PM Post #11,994 of 101,312
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No, I haven't made a comparison yet.

If you have time, would love to hear your comparison.  I have the Tenore and am considering the RE-400 based on ericp's review
 
Jul 15, 2013 at 11:07 PM Post #11,995 of 101,312
I've been tracking it for weeks. It's officially released on Amazon.jpn on Tuesday (well I guess now over there). 


Was planning on getting the H-200s. But forget that, just ordered the Onkyos. Should be here in a week or so. I love the S2s and if this tops it, then I HAVE to try it.
 
Jul 15, 2013 at 11:32 PM Post #11,996 of 101,312
you better still get that H200!

Listening to X1...have about 80 or 90 hours on it. Wow at the layering of sound with these headphones! Yes!!
 
Jul 15, 2013 at 11:48 PM Post #11,999 of 101,312
you better still get that H200!


Listening to X1...have about 80 or 90 hours on it. Wow at the layering of sound with these headphones! Yes!!


Will still be getting them...... Someday.

I'll give impressions and some pics. But I'm too new to know where to even start on reviews so I'll leave that to the more exprienced Head-fiers
 
Jul 15, 2013 at 11:55 PM Post #12,000 of 101,312
Just bought xb90exs from dannybai and listening to them...That sub bass. I see what everyones talking about now
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Those are armatures, right?
 

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