[Dsnuts]

  I believe there is a little (or some?) conversation about Line5 here (the golden amp floating around head-fi)

Last night I opened my unit because it's not functioning properly. Some strange things going on with charging the unit, yes it works fine, but my charging lights don't work and we don't know if it's accepting a charge.

I will say for the little 3.7v battery inside and quoted "more than 10 hour" runtimes. This unit has been going strong for over 40 hours now plugged into full-size headphones! I'm trying to run it flat so I can test if my amp takes a charge, but it just keeps on going....and going.

I have no idea when it will go flat, though here's what it looks like inside.

Ya I also noticed how long my Line5 A970 has been going. It hasn't stopped. Sound is starting to open up for me since open box. So we will see where this sound goes. Thanks for the pic I was going to open her up as well to check out the insides. 

 

[H20Fidelity]

Ya I also noticed how long my Line5 A970 has been going. It hasn't stopped. Sound is starting to open up for me since open box. So we will see where this sound goes. Thanks for the pic I was going to open her up as well to check out the insides. 

Turns out my unit won't accept a charge, (faulty) but thankfully due to the AA battery inside I can charge manually by removing it (with a Li-ion battery charger). For any owners keep in mind Line5 uses a higher voltage 3.7v Ultrafire battery, not your average 1.2 volt found in usual devices. Using a 1.2v it won't even turn on.

 

[Dsnuts]

The QC on these units seem. Half baked. My unit has a screw missing and my volume knob is crooked. Though I tried charging my unit and it seems to be charging as there is a light in the rear end that lights up when I plug it in so I suppose I got a working unit minus one screw which is better than not getting a charging unit. These units are so cheap I guess if you get a non working unit it isn't worth trying to send them back. In my case there is no way I would send this unit back to deals extreme even if I got a defective unit because it is agonizing how long they take to ship something to you. I think the longest I have ever waited for anything from China was a month.  Deals Extreme beat that by another month. Deal with Extreme wait times is what that site should be.
 
Just can't deal with how long the shipping is from them no matter how cheap the stuff is.

 

[peter123]

  Those were livelier and sounded excellent and $80 is a good deal for that sound.
 
Agreed on build and comfort.  I can understand on the sound.  It's dark and laid back so it won't suit everyone.  I happen to like that sort of sound and everything else in between.  

 
Yeah, I knew exactly what I was getting and since I'm only going to use it at the office (as my only headphone there) I decided to brake my holy rule and find the best eq settings for them to be enjoyable to me.
 
The perfect comfort and just the right amount of isolation/leakage makes them ideal to me for that use.
 
 

How would you compare Cayin c5 with E11K? thanks

The comparsions I would love to see is C5 vs E12 and E11K vs E11 

 

[Shawn71]

Turns out my unit won't accept a charge, (faulty) but thankfully due to the AA battery inside I can charge manually by removing it (with a Li-ion battery charger). For any owners keep in mind Line5 uses a higher voltage 3.7v Ultrafire battery, not your average 1.2 volt found in usual devices. Using a 1.2v it won't even turn on.

AAA/AA batteries are 1.5V......

 

[Dsnuts]

I don't have the E12 but I am going to assume it is one step above the E11K. But then again people be comparing the E11K to the O2 amp which is quite a statement. I did compare my ICAN head to head with the C5 last night only to support my initial thoughts on the sonics of the C5.
 
======== The C5 sonic abilities continue to amaze. It sounds very much identical to the ICAN with a little bit more bass emphasis but so far as clarity, resolution, detail, staging, immersiveness, power, workmanship, 3Dness,zero noise floor with every iem and headphone, And overall coolness factor.   I would say both are about equal..Now I would give the slight edge to the ICAN as it literally has zero flaws to my ears and has more gain settings and 2 very powerful eq settings in the bass boosts and 3D enhance that work very well. But the C5 being portable is shockingly similar with it's own powerful room filling sound and abilities.
 
Lets just say as good as the E12 and E11K are for the bang for your money Fiio amps are I am going to doubt they are at the same level of sound as the ICAN. I certainly know the E11K isn't. (great little portable amp I might add however it is clearly outclassed by the C5) The E12DIY edition should come close but not so much their cheaper siblings.

 

[nick n]

AAA/AA batteries are 1.5V......

http://www.amazon.com/Tenergy-2600mAh-1-2V-Rechargeable-Batteries/dp/B0035HCT3Q/ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_0_1/189-2427717-4765154

 

[drbluenewmexico]

The E12 is a great little well built amp.  but it lacks detail and musicality compared to more expensive amps.
its a powerhouse for sure, and manages bass well, but it doesn't sing like RS amps. I think it was designed 
more as a muscle amp for orthos and high impedance headphones, and it drives almost anything well.
and it is a good bargain for the price, built like a tank, solid electronics.  i look forward to the Cayin C5 as
an amp with the potential of more musicality, detail, tone accuracy and grace.

 

[Hutnicks]

Does anybody know for sure if there is any truth to the rumour that Cayin and Primaluna are manufactured at the same factory?

 

[peter123]

I don't have the E12 but I am going to assume it is one step above the E11K. But then again people be comparing the E11K to the O2 amp which is quite a statement. I did compare my ICAN head to head with the C5 last night only to support my initial thoughts on the sonics of the C5.

The C5 sonic abilities continue to amaze. It sounds very much identical to the ICAN with a little bit more bass emphasis but so far as clarity, resolution, detail, staging, immersiveness, power, workmanship, 3Dness,zero noise floor with every iem and headphone, And overall coolness factor.   I would say both are about equal..Now I would give the slight edge to the ICAN as it literally has zero flaws to my ears and has more gain settings and 2 very powerful eq settings in the bass boosts and 3D enhance that work very well. But the C5 being portable is shockingly similar with it's own powerful room filling sound and abilities.

Lets just say as good as the E12 and E11K are for the bang for your money Fiio amps are I am going to doubt they are at the same level of sound as the ICAN. I certainly know the E11K isn't. (great little portable amp I might add however it is clearly outclassed by the C5) The E12DIY edition should come close but not so much their cheaper siblings.

The E12 is a great little well built amp.  but it lacks detail and musicality compared to more expensive amps.
its a powerhouse for sure, and manages bass well, but it doesn't sing like RS amps. I think it was designed 
more as a muscle amp for orthos and high impedance headphones, and it drives almost anything well.
and it is a good bargain for the price, built like a tank, solid electronics.  i look forward to the Cayin C5 as
an amp with the potential of more musicality, detail, tone accuracy and grace.

Damn you guys, why can't anybody say that the E12 is good enough and that I don't need to get the C5

Edit: There's also the C6 and the HA-2i

 

[MrEleventy]

Damn you guys, why can't anybody say that the E12 is good enough and that I don't need to get the C5

Edit: There's also the C6 and the HA-2i

I think you need to renew your membership to HF... "Welcome back! And again, sorry about your wallet."

 

[rafaelroxalot]

I don't have the E12 but I am going to assume it is one step above the E11K. But then again people be comparing the E11K to the O2 amp which is quite a statement. I did compare my ICAN head to head with the C5 last night only to support my initial thoughts on the sonics of the C5.


========
The C5 sonic abilities continue to amaze. It sounds very much identical to the ICAN with a little bit more bass emphasis but so far as clarity, resolution, detail, staging, immersiveness, power, workmanship, 3Dness,zero noise floor with every iem and headphone, And overall coolness factor.   I would say both are about equal..Now I would give the slight edge to the ICAN as it literally has zero flaws to my ears and has more gain settings and 2 very powerful eq settings in the bass boosts and 3D enhance that work very well. But the C5 being portable is shockingly similar with it's own powerful room filling sound and abilities.

Lets just say as good as the E12 and E11K are for the bang for your money Fiio amps are I am going to doubt they are at the same level of sound as the ICAN. I certainly know the E11K isn't. (great little portable amp I might add however it is clearly outclassed by the C5) The E12DIY edition should come close but not so much their cheaper siblings.

where can i find these? Im from brazil

 

[nick n]

Don't forget also Cayin is not new to the scene, or rather this isn't their first amp I just looked them up again to window shop :0

 

[Dsnuts]

  Don't forget also Cayin is not new to the scene, or rather this isn't their first amp I just looked them up again to window shop :0

Oh you mean this kinda stuff they make?
 

 

[peter123]

@MrEleventy

Lol, you're correct.

I've also ordered the C5 just to prove your point