Originally Posted by jerg
Hah! I endorse that idea!
Maybe I'm too young to appreciate lower quantities of bass. Heck at least this ain't a typical +10dB bass hump that all Grados have, and those guys probably think that level of bass should be the standard.
You're not too young to appreciate lower quantities of bass...you're just not old and high frequency hearing loss prone enough yet to appreciate treble boosted headphones like HD700, HD800, HE-6 , and the like and think they sound "natural" :P When you're 70 or so, you'll think Grados are dark, but Beyer lacks detail, or so a trip on this forum would make it seem
Originally Posted by stevenlongs
I personally feel like the 650's bass is just the right amount for me...I'm somewhat glad I didn't buy the HE-400 from what everyone is saying...
. I can't really imagine more bass than this and I certainly don't wanna feel how a "bassy headphone" feels like.
Head implodes from the thumping?
HD650's have a surprisingly natural sounding bass for acoustic types of music, however HD650 severely lacks sub-bass extensio below 40Hz or so. That is it's only TRUE limitation aside from preference based qualities people often cite as limitations. For acoustic forms of music it sounds just right. For electronic forms of music they can seem like they're missing somethin. But HD650 is aided by the psychoacoustics of a huge mid-bass hump. HE-400 actually has LESS mid-bass hump, but extends flat down to 20Hz, with the entire sub-bass up to the lower mids boosted on a slight plateau. So the difference isn't "more bass" than HD650, so much as deeper extension, boosted evenly with the midbass, just a hair SHY of the peak of the midbass on HD650. So less mid-bass, deeper extension, yeilding either the same bass quantity but with lower reach or more bss quantity with lower mid-bass.
So it won't really come acrss bassier than HD650. For some genres I prefer the HD650's warm midbass. For anything electronic or featuring pipe organ or distorted guitas, low reach of HE-400 may prove preferable.
Personally I'm fond of both. HD650 is usually my preference, but HE-400 competes for headtime very well.