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Thought this post was months ago, I'd like to point out, beware HS3000 at US$25~US$50 might be just an OEM unit using Samsung PCB, or worst a highly replica unit.
This is confirmed by China "imitate" manufacturer/reseller's.
HS3000 is $25 at newegg with code EMCNFHF225
May have to be newsletter subscriber to use that. Don't know when it will expire.
Edit: my orders for this item keeps getting canceled for no good reason. And it's suspending my account according to CS. So try at your own risk
Thought this post was months ago, I'd like to point out, beware HS3000 at US$25~US$50 might be just an OEM unit using Samsung PCB, or worst a highly replica unit.
This is confirmed by China "imitate" manufacturer/reseller's.
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Just Orderd mine .
i was wondering what should i expect from dual balanced armatures?
this is my first contact with ba and i have only listen to dynamics : Beats by dre Tour , Pro
i was wondering what should i expect from dual balanced armatures?
this is my first contact with ba and i have only listen to dynamics : Beats by dre Tour , Pro
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I can tell you up front, you may not get wow-ed by them out of the box. And they have leaner, tighter bass which could take a few hours to adjust to, but the most immediate thing you will notice is that they will sound muffled and lacking in treble energy which may take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks to get used to.
You will, however, notice a cleaner, more coherent mid range. You will hear each individual instruments stand out and you can zoom in on a particular one to hear it more intimately without putting so much effort into it.
After listeninng for a few hours, try and listen back to your beats and you will notice that they have somewhat changed.
I am new to this hobby, and we all have different perception. This was mine, and being new to BAs, I think you will have a fairly similar experience.
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I agree. You really can get used to anything. I was so used to my ex85lp I didn't think they were that bassy. Haha. Once you compare a few higher end sets and go back it was like triple bass level. hehe. I was used to a "warm" sound, so for me the ba200 actually opened up the warmth a bit. For a warm sounding set they have good atmosphere and balance...
I can tell you up front, you may not get wow-ed by them out of the box. And they have leaner, tighter bass which could take a few hours to adjust to, but the most immediate thing you will notice is that they will sound muffled and lacking in treble energy which may take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks to get used to.
You will, however, notice a cleaner, more coherent mid range. You will hear each individual instruments stand out and you can zoom in on a particular one to hear it more intimately without putting so much effort into it.
After listeninng for a few hours, try and listen back to your beats and you will notice that they have somewhat changed.
I am new to this hobby, and we all have different perception. This was mine, and being new to BAs, I think you will have a fairly similar experience.
I agree. You really can get used to anything. I was so used to my ex85lp I didn't think they were that bassy. Haha. Once you compare a few higher end sets and go back it was like triple bass level. hehe. I was used to a "warm" sound, so for me the ba200 actually opened up the warmth a bit. For a warm sounding set they have good atmosphere and balance...
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Anyone has the equalizer setting for BA200? Tks
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O.k. after getting used to all these awesome super detailed highs of the pfe, I think I'm starting to go through bass withdrawal. hahaha (seriously)
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Well, there's still a bit of bass in the PFE (reference filters, not bass filters), IMO, it's just not as extended as it is in the BA200, though the BA200 does have a bit of bass boost... I've been very impressed by the bass extension of the BA200.
Well, there's still a bit of bass in the PFE (reference filters, not bass filters), IMO, it's just not as extended as it is in the BA200, though the BA200 does have a bit of bass boost... I've been very impressed by the bass extension of the BA200.
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I keep listening to a whole song in the pfe and thinking "yeah, these highs are so good", but then i switch to the ba200 and listen to it again and think "the highs aren't as good, but man the bass is nice". haha but the ba200 highs are still great, so i'm debating...
I keep listening to a whole song in the pfe and thinking "yeah, these highs are so good", but then i switch to the ba200 and listen to it again and think "the highs aren't as good, but man the bass is nice". haha but the ba200 highs are still great, so i'm debating...
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Firstly, congrats for getting the excellent sounded TDK BA200 which totally different sonic signature from your BTP. You'll need burn-in time both for this great IEM and of coz your ears. Comparing open and full enclosed can earphone/headphone are between dynamic and articulate sound.
Open can disphragm based IEM normally associate with,
1. More dynamic and punchy bass given the ability of the diaphragm travel length and speed.
2. Lively, airiness treble that overpowering the midrange. As a result it may be sounded more pleasing but at the same time more fatigue to hearing system.
There's another 2 problems,
A. Cause disturbance to yourself as the open can design have nothing preventing outside noise intruding into your music.
B. Cause disturbance to people next to you, especially if you blast your music at extreme loud level. So it's best to use at somewhere with no people around.
Full enclosed can BA IEM normally ,
1. Solved A and B problems. No more sound leak in & out. No more disturbance to yourself and others.
2. More clean & articulate bass aka less dynamic and punchy. Most BA tend to be with light articulate bass. This is due to there's no diaphragm travel involve thus there's nothing to push the air volume inside or pump in air into the can. Think it's because of this, BA IEM are normally closed can design?
3. More articulate & airy sounded mid and treble. The mid also tend to be more forward aka warm/sweet like what a tube amp sounded.
4. The strongest point of BA IEM (at least dual BA) are the much better Sound Staging than diaphragm base IEM. It is by far the most brilliant parts of a (dual) BA designed IEM.
Above just my own thinking based on my 1st BA IEM the TDK BA200. Of course it is not my first audition to a BA. Me too with articulate and less punchy bass of a BA IEM, I has been hesitating to join BA circle for years. There's mainly because I would not pay a premium on a tiny IEM. I've rather spend a bigger fortune on a good stereo system setup at home.
But on April this year, the TDK BA200 has totally changed my mindset. No only it has excellent mid, treble. The well weighted and articulate bass it produces also has better punch than most dual BA IEM around. Given it tiny price below $200, $130 (both brand new price) to be exact for my BA200, TDK BA200 was a real star for dual BA IEM standard.
Firstly, congrats for getting the excellent sounded TDK BA200 which totally different sonic signature from your BTP. You'll need burn-in time both for this great IEM and of coz your ears. Comparing open and full enclosed can earphone/headphone are between dynamic and articulate sound.
Open can disphragm based IEM normally associate with,
1. More dynamic and punchy bass given the ability of the diaphragm travel length and speed.
2. Lively, airiness treble that overpowering the midrange. As a result it may be sounded more pleasing but at the same time more fatigue to hearing system.
There's another 2 problems,
A. Cause disturbance to yourself as the open can design have nothing preventing outside noise intruding into your music.
B. Cause disturbance to people next to you, especially if you blast your music at extreme loud level. So it's best to use at somewhere with no people around.
Full enclosed can BA IEM normally ,
1. Solved A and B problems. No more sound leak in & out. No more disturbance to yourself and others.
2. More clean & articulate bass aka less dynamic and punchy. Most BA tend to be with light articulate bass. This is due to there's no diaphragm travel involve thus there's nothing to push the air volume inside or pump in air into the can. Think it's because of this, BA IEM are normally closed can design?
3. More articulate & airy sounded mid and treble. The mid also tend to be more forward aka warm/sweet like what a tube amp sounded.
4. The strongest point of BA IEM (at least dual BA) are the much better Sound Staging than diaphragm base IEM. It is by far the most brilliant parts of a (dual) BA designed IEM.
Above just my own thinking based on my 1st BA IEM the TDK BA200. Of course it is not my first audition to a BA. Me too with articulate and less punchy bass of a BA IEM, I has been hesitating to join BA circle for years. There's mainly because I would not pay a premium on a tiny IEM. I've rather spend a bigger fortune on a good stereo system setup at home.
But on April this year, the TDK BA200 has totally changed my mindset. No only it has excellent mid, treble. The well weighted and articulate bass it produces also has better punch than most dual BA IEM around. Given it tiny price below $200, $130 (both brand new price) to be exact for my BA200, TDK BA200 was a real star for dual BA IEM standard.
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ok thanks alot guys i was wondering does someone have experience with the TDK ba200 and the Digizoid zo2?
which should give the TDK ba200 alot of bass.
which should give the TDK ba200 alot of bass.
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Does the BA200 sounds similar to the hd650? I have been going through a few pairs of iems now to find something similar in sound but does not cost $500. The usual suspects are the se535 and ie8... out of my student budget.
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I must say sorry to you given my initial reply toward your question. My last remarks may have mislead you that TDK200 having very light bass. I had since change my remarks about BA200. Now I would named BA200 bass performance as "Well weighted articulate bass".
I must say sorry to you given my initial reply toward your question. My last remarks may have mislead you that TDK200 having very light bass. I had since change my remarks about BA200. Now I would named BA200 bass performance as "Well weighted articulate bass".
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Btw Screen Killer,
I would suggest you hold on your invest about Digizoid zo2.
Basically BA200 performance depend on the source you are using.
You can first using BA200 for a few day or a week.
If you prefer even more bass, on Adroid devices like Samsung Galaxy series like Note2, S3, inside their Music Player, try make use of the SoundAlive profile or adjust the Custom Equaliser or the Extended settings bass levels according to your taste. If you're on iOS devices, try go to Settings and set different music profile in Music.
I would suggest you hold on your invest about Digizoid zo2.
Basically BA200 performance depend on the source you are using.
You can first using BA200 for a few day or a week.
If you prefer even more bass, on Adroid devices like Samsung Galaxy series like Note2, S3, inside their Music Player, try make use of the SoundAlive profile or adjust the Custom Equaliser or the Extended settings bass levels according to your taste. If you're on iOS devices, try go to Settings and set different music profile in Music.
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I wouldn't say a lot of bass. Well it depends on the amount of bass you are used to hearing. On full whack you probably won't even get to 30% of the bass your tours give. If you are not used to bass light phones (like me) it's going to take a while to appreciate the bass.
I agree with NewForce above, don't bother until you have heard them. Unless you need more power to drive them, which you shouldn't, you can pretty much get enough bass from basic eq settings. I say this because i too went through the exact same process, expecting to get godly amounts of bass from the zo2, but it's not the case.
I wouldn't say a lot of bass. Well it depends on the amount of bass you are used to hearing. On full whack you probably won't even get to 30% of the bass your tours give. If you are not used to bass light phones (like me) it's going to take a while to appreciate the bass.
I agree with NewForce above, don't bother until you have heard them. Unless you need more power to drive them, which you shouldn't, you can pretty much get enough bass from basic eq settings. I say this because i too went through the exact same process, expecting to get godly amounts of bass from the zo2, but it's not the case.
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